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atwhatcost

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And when you only have a few days to come up with money for rent or whatever and with all your heart you go to GOD with that desire. You want the bible to be true. There has been times when I have prayed for and with others and there are times when you can't wait for the answer. I was on the phone with a friend as they were putting her brotherto death in prison and GOD didn't answer our prayers. I could give lots of examples. My question was sincere and I thought simple. Ag didn't come here to be criticized.
Ah, I found out what you asked.

Here's my take. God's the judge, right? (Even if you don't get everything you want out of the Bible and you're unsure who God is, I'm assuming you got the idea he is THE judge.) What do judges do? A case-by-case on each defendant judged. And what do they do with that information? They come down with a guilty or not guilty.

Here's the hard part. God's also the lawgiver, the sentenceer, and the advocate. He knows the law. He knows if we are guilty or not guilty. We're all -- and I mean right down to the least and the most holiest of all people all -- guilty! You've read the Bible. How many times have you recognized that particular sin as something you've done? Put that down on the guilty side of your sheet. (Guilty on one side. Not guilty on the other side sheet.) If there is one single "guilty" charge, we all get the same exact sentence -- separation from God, death and hell. Since we're all guilty, that's what we all deserve.

But there is one tiny part of God's law that works in our favor. The goat clause. In the OT, since all the people were guilty, they had to lay their hands on top of two goats. One goat was sacrificed as their sins. The other goat was released into the wilderness. (You know that goat as "the scapegoat.") In like kind, if you know someone who murdered someone, and you never murdered anyone, you can take on the punishment of that person. (The punishment, of course, was death, but you could do it, if you wanted to.) The catch was, you couldn't take on that punishment, unless you weren't guilty of that crime/sin.

The bigger catch is, we're all guilty of some sins, so for someone to take our place for the just punishment we deserve (separation from God, death and hell), we need someone who never ever ever sinned. Only one to fit that bill is Jesus -- Son of God, God, and Man. He is the goat clause -- both the sacrifice and the one tossed out into the wilderness. He didn't come to save everyone from what we deserve. He came to save whosoever will believe. That's a subset of all people.

So, if you're brother trust in that, he will probably still be put to death in the next few days, but he will spend eternity with God, so gets past the separation from God, death, and hell portion of the judgement he so richly deserves. If he doesn't accept that, he gets permanent separation from God, death and eternal hell. That IS God's answer. It wasn't as if God never answered you. He gave you that answer back in the days you read the Bible.

And, then, in like kind, you get the same deal your brother gets. Trust Jesus or not. Trust him works in your favor. Don't trust works against you. That too was answered when you read the Bible.

God is the judge. He's not going to reneg on his own law just because we happen to love someone. It's his law. He can't, or he's not just. He won't, or he's not just. He's loving, so he gave a way out for any who will take it.

You love your brother? (And, that's rhetorical, or you wouldn't be here asking for help about this.) Give him that! That is his only hope now, whether he is put to death or not.

As for will God spare him from his death sentence? Well, it's possible. If you're brother accepts that about God, it wouldn't be the first time God stopped some of his people from being in prison. Even if God were to break your brother out, that wouldn't be the first time he did that. Assuming you read Acts, you saw him break out some of his people before. BUT, all those people he broke out went on to preach his word and ended up being killed in horrendous ways for the effort.

We don't get out of this life alive. We can get out of this life to spend eternity worshiping God, but we've got to dump this body to do that.

If that's something you or your brother would like to do, God's waiting. If that's something you and your brother don't want to do, God's still waiting. Either way, we face him as the Judge. The big question is do we have an advocate in Jesus? He's the only way out of our just punishment.

And that, as the Bible has already taught you, is God's answer.

Why ask? Because you wanted the answer. Now asked, what will you do with that answer?

God answers. He just doesn't give us whatever we want.
 
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The rent thing......
Do you honestly expect God to give you money for rent when you haven't even really bothered to acknowledge Him your whole life... and then, one day, out of the blue, you come crying to be bailed out? He ain't Obama.
 
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atwhatcost

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And when you only have a few days to come up with money for rent or whatever and with all your heart you go to GOD with that desire. You want the bible to be true. There has been times when I have prayed for and with others and there are times when you can't wait for the answer. I was on the phone with a friend as they were putting her brotherto death in prison and GOD didn't answer our prayers. I could give lots of examples. My question was sincere and I thought simple. Ag didn't come here to be criticized.
BTW, there was a time when I was disabled and getting a whopping $839 a month. My husband got sick and went on chemo for 6 months. But, he was sick over a year before we found out he was sick (and not just depressed that he couldn't get a job), so we ate through all our savings -- both short term and retirement -- before he went on chemo. Our mortgage was $550 a month. (Our utilities were roughly $250 a month.) We did get on Welfare for food stamps thankfully, but something had to give on the money (since food stamps don't provide for things like toilet paper, deodorant, soap, a new oven when the old one died, new pipe when the old one broke, and such.) The mortgage gave. We received a foreclosure notice when he was two months into his chemo. I was busy praying and figuring out how two middle-aged people can survive living in our car while hubby remained on chemo. (No chemo and he'd die.)

God answered. He took a lot more time than I was comfortable with, but he answered with three weeks to spare. We still have the house. (We still have that car too. lol)

Lesson learned: Never EVER ask God for patience, because he doesn't let you take that one back. lol

Bad news: If he saves you, he's going to give you patience whether you ask or not.
 
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prodigal

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. james 4

3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. 4 Adulterers and[b] adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”?

6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:
“God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble.”[c]


Humility Cures Worldliness

7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.