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I would suggest that anyone who responds negatively to GodsGirl, who wants to lay all sorts of evil on the steps of the Vatican, read this post from 13 years ago on the Free Republic website. I have difficulty with the Catholic Church based on their rote and ritual, not because I believe they are "spawn of Satan" or whatever other ugly untruth one might care to nail to the church door. Outta here. I know this is going to get ugly, and I want no part of it. I would say upon departing: Be sure you know what you're talking about, and by that I don't mean that you've read a website or a book written by someone with an agenda of their own -- which pretty well rules out anything you might post.
Most of my personal friends are Catholic (1).
I have one, in particular, who showed me how we (protestants) are seen by the leaders of the RCC: We are heretics for not following their traditions and rules. (2)
Protestants do not follow a pope (3) "Mat 23:9 Don't call anyone on earth your father (Pope). All of you have the same Father in heaven. "
We do not venere or revere "saints" or statues (which are man-made idols). Yet we had idols like, sex, money, greed, lust, drugs, etc (None of US is perfect here or there, in the RCC) (4)
The RCC insists on saying other Christian creeds are "sects", because they think they are the only true church, same way Jesus´ disciples thought they were the only ones deserving God´s favor:
Mark 9:38 John said, "Teacher, we saw a man using your name to force demons out of people. But he wasn't one of us, and we told him to stop."
Luk 9:49 John said, "Master, we saw a man using your name to force demons out of people. But we told him to stop, because he isn't one of us."
Most of the protestants do not believe in the doctrine of "transubstation" (transsustanciación) (5)
Many things more!
I have one, in particular, who showed me how we (protestants) are seen by the leaders of the RCC: We are heretics for not following their traditions and rules. (2)
Protestants do not follow a pope (3) "Mat 23:9 Don't call anyone on earth your father (Pope). All of you have the same Father in heaven. "
We do not venere or revere "saints" or statues (which are man-made idols). Yet we had idols like, sex, money, greed, lust, drugs, etc (None of US is perfect here or there, in the RCC) (4)
The RCC insists on saying other Christian creeds are "sects", because they think they are the only true church, same way Jesus´ disciples thought they were the only ones deserving God´s favor:
Mark 9:38 John said, "Teacher, we saw a man using your name to force demons out of people. But he wasn't one of us, and we told him to stop."
Luk 9:49 John said, "Master, we saw a man using your name to force demons out of people. But we told him to stop, because he isn't one of us."
Most of the protestants do not believe in the doctrine of "transubstation" (transsustanciación) (5)
Many things more!
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" this post from 13 years ago on the Free Republic website "
1) Catholics think the pope does not sin -->absolutely incorrect
2) Catholics think they can't pray to God directly but have to go through saints --> we pray directly to God and sometimes to saints
3) The Catholic Church teaches that one who isn't formally a Catholic is damned to Hell --> I was NEVER taught that
1) Catholics think the pope does not sin -->absolutely incorrect
2) Catholics think they can't pray to God directly but have to go through saints --> we pray directly to God and sometimes to saints
3) The Catholic Church teaches that one who isn't formally a Catholic is damned to Hell --> I was NEVER taught that
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the expose, whistleblower, "50 years in the church of rome" declares from priests(expriests) what is vile and wicked about rome. it has always been a hotbed of deception, never a source of truth, no, not ever.....
every one of the reformers, from martin luther on, exposed that the roman abomination is actually in reality against Christ and His followers.
eventually, the protestants started being drawn back in to the deception of the deceiver, and playing an 'ecumenical' game losing souls right and left to the enemy.
the roman abomination 'planted' perps inside other denominations, through their seminaries, schools and churches, to 'bring back the "flock" to the corrupt power of catholicism.....
historically, spiritually, socially, the roman authorities have never been good for anyone, when it seems so, it just seems so - it is all lies.
this is all in line with all the admins and the owner of this site - romanism is heresy, plain and fraudulent.... deadly to bodies and souls.
that just sums up centuries of evidence. look up as much as you want. the more you look, the more you will wonder how the whole world and its leaders were deceived for so long.... but it is exactly as Jesus said it would be.
every one of the reformers, from martin luther on, exposed that the roman abomination is actually in reality against Christ and His followers.
eventually, the protestants started being drawn back in to the deception of the deceiver, and playing an 'ecumenical' game losing souls right and left to the enemy.
the roman abomination 'planted' perps inside other denominations, through their seminaries, schools and churches, to 'bring back the "flock" to the corrupt power of catholicism.....
historically, spiritually, socially, the roman authorities have never been good for anyone, when it seems so, it just seems so - it is all lies.
this is all in line with all the admins and the owner of this site - romanism is heresy, plain and fraudulent.... deadly to bodies and souls.
that just sums up centuries of evidence. look up as much as you want. the more you look, the more you will wonder how the whole world and its leaders were deceived for so long.... but it is exactly as Jesus said it would be.
Go read about Martin Luther, the Reform, etc.
Acts 4:12 is not really considered as enough. I´ve heard that Mary would be considered co-redemtive, too.
Isn´t common their prayers are addressed to their saints?
This is why we believe differently:
Mat 18:20 Whenever two or three of you come together in my name, I am there with you.
Joh 14:13 Ask me, and I will do whatever you ask. This way the Son will bring honor to the Father.
Joh 16:23 When that time comes, you won't have to ask me about anything. I tell you for certain that the Father will give you whatever you ask for in my name.
Joh 16:26 You will ask the Father in my name, and I won't have to ask him for you.
Joh 16:27 God the Father loves you because you love me, and you believe that I have come from him.
Acts 4:12 is not really considered as enough. I´ve heard that Mary would be considered co-redemtive, too.
Isn´t common their prayers are addressed to their saints?
This is why we believe differently:
Mat 18:20 Whenever two or three of you come together in my name, I am there with you.
Joh 14:13 Ask me, and I will do whatever you ask. This way the Son will bring honor to the Father.
Joh 16:23 When that time comes, you won't have to ask me about anything. I tell you for certain that the Father will give you whatever you ask for in my name.
Joh 16:26 You will ask the Father in my name, and I won't have to ask him for you.
Joh 16:27 God the Father loves you because you love me, and you believe that I have come from him.
I disagree with some of the catholic beliefs like baptizing babies and praying to mary or the saint to intercede for them but they arent evil its all about our relationship with God not our denomination and if anyone starts attacking or saying mean things about the catholics or Godsgirl remember we are held accountable for everything we say and that we are called to love not judge condemn or mock and dont hide behind a wall like edifying or teaching the truth because you should know the difference
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I am Roman Catholic and I would like to hear your thoughts 
I was in the Catholic church for 5 years between 2004 to 2009 and went through the RCIA classes that they said I had to take to become a member. That from the start seemed fishy to me, and then during the classes I was taught more history of the church than actual scriptural teachings as the priest spent very little time on scriptures.
That was secondly a worry to me as I was wanting to know and have a closer relationship with God, and thought that was the purpose of the classes. Which I found was not the case.
From their during this process I started to get into full death study of the bible for myself, and while doing this I noticed things they were doing that reminded me of what the Pharisees did back in the Lords earthly ministry days that the Lord called them hypocrites for doing. Adding and taking away from the bible, which is prohibited by God.
Going by titles that says to not be called father, for the bible makes it clear we only have one Spiritual Father and that is Him. When I questioned them why they go by the title of father, the only response i got back from many priest and members was this was not to be taken literally. That raised a black flag to me, saying the Lord's words were not to be taken literally.
The other thing I was told at that time was that I was not truly forgiven of my sins unless I go to confessional to one of their priest. I said wait the bible says I can go directly to God in prayer, and ask Him personally for that forgiveness in the name of Jesus Christ and they will be forgiven. I was told that the belief that we can each have our own personal relationship with God was a dangerous teaching.
There are even more that raised my eyes to the apostate teaching that was not from the bible, so I left and went back to a baptist church in which was the denomination I grew up in. That church fell apart because the baptist commission came in and wanted to start pushing the old Southern Baptist traditions back in the church that was contradictory to the bible as well. One Example: women had to be in dresses, and men had to be in suit and tie.
I then looked around and decided to be nondenominational because I could not find one denominational church that was 100% bible based, and not tainted by mans traditions, customs, and personal philosophies. I wanted at first in my studies to become a prophecy teacher, but the Holy Spirit had other plans for me and kept pulling me away from that to studying, learning, and teaching the warnings of Paul to believers.
People think that only the Catholic church is the only apostate church, however there is a little apostate teaching in every denomination. Not in every church of those denominations, but there are some.
I would suggest to find a church no matter what denomination, and whatever they say always check it with the Holy Scriptures of God. If they match then follow the teaching, if they are contrary do not follow and question it.
Your point 3 is also "meant" by protestants, probably thinking the truth belongs to them solely, by misinterpreting this:
Joh 3:18 No one who has faith in God's Son will be condemned. But everyone who doesn't have faith in him has already been condemned for not having faith in God's only Son.
Joh 3:18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jesus said it this way:
Joh 3:14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
Joh 3:15 that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world so that He might condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness more than the light, because their works were evil.
Joh 3:18 No one who has faith in God's Son will be condemned. But everyone who doesn't have faith in him has already been condemned for not having faith in God's only Son.
Joh 3:18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jesus said it this way:
Joh 3:14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
Joh 3:15 that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world so that He might condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness more than the light, because their works were evil.
Well, it is common sense that nobody should be allowed to pray to the dead. Contacting the dead is associated with the occult. I remember messing around with Ouja board when I was a kid and I knew that stuff was evil (even as an unbeliever). But evil has a way of sucking in you. It is enticing. Then there is the bowing down to statues of Mary. Um, did you ever read about Daniel's friends and how they refused to bow down to a statue? What about when the Israelites had worshiped a golden statue of a calf? Do you think God and Moses were pleased with them? Yeah, but what about the brass serpent? They were not asked to bow down to it. Only to look at it. In fact, later we learn in Scripture that God's people made an idol out of the brass serpent.
Then there is confession of your sins to a man. Why on Earth would even do that when Scripture says that we have an advocate named Jesus Christ that we can go to if we sin? (1 John 2:1). Is Jesus Christ not good enough?
Scripture says Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and man. Why do you need anyone else but Jesus when it comes to dealing with being forgiven?
In fact, Catholics appear as religious men. Jesus warns us about this. He says beware of the Scribes which love to go in long clothing and love salutations in the market places.
Then there is the sin of corruption within the Catholic Church, too. There is so much abuse of children within it's ranks it is disturbing to say the least. The Catholic church has even been in league with the mob and it's crimes. I mean, you can see Hitler shaking hands with Catholic's religious leaders.
I mean, what about the upside crosses? Yes, I am aware of the RCC explanation, but it is still wrong. What about the pagan fish hats certain Catholic religious leaders wear? Do you not know that you can find old historical drawings of pagain worshipers wearing those same pagan fish hats?
Then there is the money. Jesus said put your treasures in Heaven where moth and dust doth not corrupt. I mean, just read 1 Timothy 6 several times and then ask yourself if a rich man is saved or not. If there is one thing the Catholic Church has... it's lots of money. Yeah, but what about all the good they do with that money. Actors donate tons of cash to help the poor, doesn't mean they are saved, though.
Also, the Catholic Church is also the whore of Mystery Babylon in Revelation, too (More on this later).
I mean, there are so many red flags that the Catholic Church is a corrupt institution, it would make one think they were in a Russian airport. I say this not to wound you or to insult you, but to lead you to the truth in love. The Catholic church is pure evil. There is nothing good about it at all. It is an institution of sin and idolatry cloaked under the disguise of calling itself Christian when it is the farthest thing from that.
Then there is confession of your sins to a man. Why on Earth would even do that when Scripture says that we have an advocate named Jesus Christ that we can go to if we sin? (1 John 2:1). Is Jesus Christ not good enough?
Scripture says Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and man. Why do you need anyone else but Jesus when it comes to dealing with being forgiven?
In fact, Catholics appear as religious men. Jesus warns us about this. He says beware of the Scribes which love to go in long clothing and love salutations in the market places.
Then there is the sin of corruption within the Catholic Church, too. There is so much abuse of children within it's ranks it is disturbing to say the least. The Catholic church has even been in league with the mob and it's crimes. I mean, you can see Hitler shaking hands with Catholic's religious leaders.
I mean, what about the upside crosses? Yes, I am aware of the RCC explanation, but it is still wrong. What about the pagan fish hats certain Catholic religious leaders wear? Do you not know that you can find old historical drawings of pagain worshipers wearing those same pagan fish hats?
Then there is the money. Jesus said put your treasures in Heaven where moth and dust doth not corrupt. I mean, just read 1 Timothy 6 several times and then ask yourself if a rich man is saved or not. If there is one thing the Catholic Church has... it's lots of money. Yeah, but what about all the good they do with that money. Actors donate tons of cash to help the poor, doesn't mean they are saved, though.
Also, the Catholic Church is also the whore of Mystery Babylon in Revelation, too (More on this later).
I mean, there are so many red flags that the Catholic Church is a corrupt institution, it would make one think they were in a Russian airport. I say this not to wound you or to insult you, but to lead you to the truth in love. The Catholic church is pure evil. There is nothing good about it at all. It is an institution of sin and idolatry cloaked under the disguise of calling itself Christian when it is the farthest thing from that.
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Interesting... Personally I know very little about true catholics but if what you say is true then it seems they have lost their way and need to connect with God by having an actual relationship. I also am nondenomination as I also saw that no one denomination was 100% right biblicly. Of course when I chose not to belong to any one denomination I didnt know nondenomination was a thing I thought I was doing something new lol
The Roman Church is anti Christ...I just put some comments on that thed...I was brought up under that system ..do you see many Catholics reading the instruction manual err I mean Bible !? not much of whats in Gods word is done there its mostly man made theology even though they look the part and talk softly, they carry a big stick..well I was told the word of God ( and that ends the mater regardless of what people think or say ) To REPENT..mental adjustment (babys cant) be Baptized ( full immersion ..its what the greek word means !) an GOD will respond by giving me the Holy Spirit (thought I had that..you know kiss the bishops ring slap on face with oil !!??) its Gods he dose it not man !! when I received I was instantly healed of migraines ( suffered all my life ) cured from smoking drinking drugs ( no withdrawals no pangs instant gone ) my father from cancer and much much more here is a sample of other people..if its allowed..www.ourGodanswers.com once I did it the right way (GODS Way ) the miraculous things started and now are an everyday part ..not just 2000 years ago..!
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Hi!
You know, the Catholic faith isn't much different in their teachings as any other mainstream religion in Christendom. I personally am not Catholic, but I have found the teachings in many of the Catholic churches and other religions to not coincide with Bible teachings. For instance, a common teaching is that when someone does bad things they will go to hell, and if they do good things they will go to heaven. However, these teachings actually are not backed up with scripture. The Bible answers the question, "Do the dead experience pain?" in these verses:
Ecclesiastes 9: 5, 10: For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. 10 - Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where are going.
Psalm 146:4 - "His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts do perish."
Romans 6:23 - "For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord."
So the first two verses are describing the condition of the dead. When we die, we simply fall asleep in death. If God punished those who were sinful after death, it wouldn't make sense for the scripture to say "the dead know nothing at all" or that their "thoughts perish." Also, Romans tells us that the wages we pay for sin is simply dying. A loving God will not torment people in a burning hellfire as so many people including the Catholic faith teach.
Then you might think, well if people don't go to heaven or hell, what happens to them? Well here's some encouraging scriptures to conclude with. Keep in mind the end of that verse in Romans above where it says "everlasting life."
Psalm 37:29 - "The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever on it."
John 5:28,29 - "Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out."
Acts 24:15-"There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."
So really what many religions don't teach is that God promises us that he will resurrect those who are dead here on the earth with an opportunity to live forever. But not forever in the conditions we see today. Rather, these conditions:
Isaiah 35: 5,6- "At that time the eyes of the blind will be opened, and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. At that time the lame will leap like the deer, and the tongue of the speechless will shout for joy. For waters will burst forth in the wilderness, and streams in the desert plain."
Revelation 21:4- "He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."
God promises he will take away these terrible conditions we see today and restore the earth to perfect conditions as he originally intended. So this is why I personally have a problem with Catholic teachings. They do not teach people about God's Kingdom, instead, the falsehood of hellfire and other unscriptural teachings. I hope you found this encouraging and informative!
You know, the Catholic faith isn't much different in their teachings as any other mainstream religion in Christendom. I personally am not Catholic, but I have found the teachings in many of the Catholic churches and other religions to not coincide with Bible teachings. For instance, a common teaching is that when someone does bad things they will go to hell, and if they do good things they will go to heaven. However, these teachings actually are not backed up with scripture. The Bible answers the question, "Do the dead experience pain?" in these verses:
Ecclesiastes 9: 5, 10: For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. 10 - Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where are going.
Psalm 146:4 - "His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts do perish."
Romans 6:23 - "For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord."
So the first two verses are describing the condition of the dead. When we die, we simply fall asleep in death. If God punished those who were sinful after death, it wouldn't make sense for the scripture to say "the dead know nothing at all" or that their "thoughts perish." Also, Romans tells us that the wages we pay for sin is simply dying. A loving God will not torment people in a burning hellfire as so many people including the Catholic faith teach.
Then you might think, well if people don't go to heaven or hell, what happens to them? Well here's some encouraging scriptures to conclude with. Keep in mind the end of that verse in Romans above where it says "everlasting life."
Psalm 37:29 - "The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever on it."
John 5:28,29 - "Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out."
Acts 24:15-"There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."
So really what many religions don't teach is that God promises us that he will resurrect those who are dead here on the earth with an opportunity to live forever. But not forever in the conditions we see today. Rather, these conditions:
Isaiah 35: 5,6- "At that time the eyes of the blind will be opened, and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. At that time the lame will leap like the deer, and the tongue of the speechless will shout for joy. For waters will burst forth in the wilderness, and streams in the desert plain."
Revelation 21:4- "He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."
God promises he will take away these terrible conditions we see today and restore the earth to perfect conditions as he originally intended. So this is why I personally have a problem with Catholic teachings. They do not teach people about God's Kingdom, instead, the falsehood of hellfire and other unscriptural teachings. I hope you found this encouraging and informative!
for one of many examplessss.... >>> (from GEMS online somewhere) >>>
[h=5][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]"TRUE PAGAN ORIGINS[/FONT][/h] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Where did this teaching and practice really come from? Like many of the beliefs and rites of Romanism, transubstantiation was first practiced by pagan religions. The noted historian Durant said that belief in transubstantiation as practiced by the priests of the Roman Catholic system is "one of the oldest ceremonies of primitive religion" (The Story of Civilization, p. 741.) The syncretism and mysticism of the Middle East were great factors in influencing the West, particularly Italy. (Roman Society from Nero to Marcus Aurelius, by Dill.) In Egypt, priests would consecrate meat cakes which were supposed to become the flesh of Osiris! (an ancient Egyptian god of the lower world and judge of the dead - Encyclopedia of Religions, Vol. 2, p. 76.) The idea of transubstantiation was also characteristic of the religion of Mithra whose sacraments of cakes and haoma drink closely parallel Catholic Eucharistic rites. (Ibid.)[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]The idea of eating the flesh of deity was most popular among the people of Mexico and Central America long before they ever heard of Christ; and when Spanish missionaries first landed in those countries, "their surpass was heightened, when they witnessed a religious rite which reminded them of communion . . . an image made of flour...and after consecration by priests, was distributed among the people who ate it. . . declaring it was the flesh of deity. (Prescott's Mexico, Vol. 3.)[/FONT]
[h=5][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]SO WHY DO THEY TEACH IT?[/FONT][/h] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Before concluding our first chronicle, the question needs to be asked, "Why does the Roman Catholic Church need to have such a doctrine why do they think that Jesus wants them to physically eat Him? That is what truly puzzled me as I read astounded through the catechism and doctrinal instruction books. But the answer to that question is not a pretty one. As I said before, the implications and practical conclusions of the teaching of transubstantiation are substantially worse than the doctrine itself and like a great web spun by an industrious spider, Rome's teachings spiral out from this central hub like the spokes of a wheel."[/FONT]
[h=5][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]"TRUE PAGAN ORIGINS[/FONT][/h] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Where did this teaching and practice really come from? Like many of the beliefs and rites of Romanism, transubstantiation was first practiced by pagan religions. The noted historian Durant said that belief in transubstantiation as practiced by the priests of the Roman Catholic system is "one of the oldest ceremonies of primitive religion" (The Story of Civilization, p. 741.) The syncretism and mysticism of the Middle East were great factors in influencing the West, particularly Italy. (Roman Society from Nero to Marcus Aurelius, by Dill.) In Egypt, priests would consecrate meat cakes which were supposed to become the flesh of Osiris! (an ancient Egyptian god of the lower world and judge of the dead - Encyclopedia of Religions, Vol. 2, p. 76.) The idea of transubstantiation was also characteristic of the religion of Mithra whose sacraments of cakes and haoma drink closely parallel Catholic Eucharistic rites. (Ibid.)[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]The idea of eating the flesh of deity was most popular among the people of Mexico and Central America long before they ever heard of Christ; and when Spanish missionaries first landed in those countries, "their surpass was heightened, when they witnessed a religious rite which reminded them of communion . . . an image made of flour...and after consecration by priests, was distributed among the people who ate it. . . declaring it was the flesh of deity. (Prescott's Mexico, Vol. 3.)[/FONT]
[h=5][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]SO WHY DO THEY TEACH IT?[/FONT][/h] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Before concluding our first chronicle, the question needs to be asked, "Why does the Roman Catholic Church need to have such a doctrine why do they think that Jesus wants them to physically eat Him? That is what truly puzzled me as I read astounded through the catechism and doctrinal instruction books. But the answer to that question is not a pretty one. As I said before, the implications and practical conclusions of the teaching of transubstantiation are substantially worse than the doctrine itself and like a great web spun by an industrious spider, Rome's teachings spiral out from this central hub like the spokes of a wheel."[/FONT]
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The nondenominational movement is growing at a rapid pace even though it is not being given much mention.
Since the big wake up call that was given back in the 90's by a bunch of pastors, and then do to what happened on 911 more people have been coming to seek the truth. After going to some mainstream churches some of them have since then turned back away because of false, or condemning preaching. Even though we are to give the warnings that sin can still impose on a believers life if not confessed, we are to do it in a loving and careful manner.
I don't ever hear to much talk about 1st or 2nd Timothy, but in those books you have the Apostle Paul talking to the Apostle Timothy. He warns Timothy of how he can become impure to sin again, now this goes against the teaching that they can't be imputed on us again. They are corrected as repented and confessed sins can not, however future sins still pose a danger if not confessed. ( 1 John )