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Yes -- membership to the Family of God!
The body of Christ is a different entity!
The body of Christ is a local body of believers.. a local church.. (not the building). It is either figurative for all local bodies or for one in particular.. eg.. at Antioch.. at Phillipi etc..
Ephesians.. 'one body, one faith, one baptism...' The one body.. is the local body of Christ. Like saying 'the horse' or 'the bar'.
Family.. Kingdom and Body of Christ.. different entities.
Family- all believers.. the triune God. God's angels.
Kingdom- God's dominion in earth and heaven.
Body of Christ- a local church.. or figurative for all of them.
The body of Christ is a different entity!
The body of Christ is a local body of believers.. a local church.. (not the building). It is either figurative for all local bodies or for one in particular.. eg.. at Antioch.. at Phillipi etc..
Ephesians.. 'one body, one faith, one baptism...' The one body.. is the local body of Christ. Like saying 'the horse' or 'the bar'.
Family.. Kingdom and Body of Christ.. different entities.
Family- all believers.. the triune God. God's angels.
Kingdom- God's dominion in earth and heaven.
Body of Christ- a local church.. or figurative for all of them.
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But if he wears a hat, no one notices.
Interesting. Joined that day, posted twice, hasn't been back since. Can you spell T-R-O-L-L?
Interesting. Joined that day, posted twice, hasn't been back since. Can you spell T-R-O-L-L?
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How you two have figured out the fancy smileys before me is a fantastic mystery!
But I digress..
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Also, is Baptist considered non-denominational (since it's neither Protestant or Catholic)?
But I digress..
VW: Is your local church congregation affiliated with this website? Find A Church | American Baptist Churches USA
Also, is Baptist considered non-denominational (since it's neither Protestant or Catholic)?
So is the point we can be evil no matter where we go, or that we can stay pure regardless of where we go? And I agree with the premise, but there is a logical consideration as well. If Satan is the author of lies and can include his attacks on our thoughts and on our right to ourselves over surrendering to God, wouldn't it seem prudent to go to somewhere else on Sunday mornings other than "Sam's baked -goods Satanic" worship services up the street? There is the disputable line of contention, where the diety of Christ is not crossed, and the tumultuous zone of standing as a Christian at the "Sam's baked -goods Satanic" Church of worship. [Don't ask, I have no idea if he sells desserts with the deserts or just deserts looking like desserts- he's a tricky little devil, but in all seriousness, that's my point! He lies well, and God leads well would He lead us to Sam's?].
Actually its not the Church building you go to that counts. What counts is do they teach the Word of God? Many Churches will do their best to make you feel at home. But if they do not teach the Truth in the Scriptures why then are you going to that Church?
We go to grow in Christ, not to be a part of the crowd.
We go to grow in Christ, not to be a part of the crowd.
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Hey, I'm Baptist too, and Methodist, Catholic, Lutheran, ...............
Corinthians 9:19-22New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; [SUP]20 [/SUP]and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law,[SUP][a][/SUP] that I might win those who are under the law; [SUP]21 [/SUP]to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God,[SUP][b][/SUP] but under law toward Christ[SUP][c][/SUP]), that I might win those who are without law; [SUP]22 [/SUP]to the weak I became as[SUP][d][/SUP] weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
Corinthians 9:19-22New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; [SUP]20 [/SUP]and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law,[SUP][a][/SUP] that I might win those who are under the law; [SUP]21 [/SUP]to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God,[SUP][b][/SUP] but under law toward Christ[SUP][c][/SUP]), that I might win those who are without law; [SUP]22 [/SUP]to the weak I became as[SUP][d][/SUP] weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
Well we know Spiritually that is absolutely true, if WE choose to join God's Spirit it will affect us. If we don't decide to choose God's Spirit the other Spirit has already affected us, and will remain affecting us, even after regeneration, this Evil Spirit will try to invade us with thoughts and lies, even if it is now a foreigner and powerless unless we let our will be offered...
In addition, The Psychology major in me knows of the hierarchy of needs and sum total of our environment schools of thoughts that influence us as well, along with the attempt of placing the neurotic Freudian stages of childhood development and other crazy stuff in a sleuth of reasoning to come up with an alternative to the Spiritual warfare that is the true battle of all our lives. They even call it humanism which is laughable to me in it's reasoning, to think one can separate ourselves from Satan and turn ourselves unto God alone.
But if Satan rules us at any point before God's Spiritual rule, and the controlling factor of the Spirit of life found in us is the infusion of God's hands in our lives first and continually.. We see a component to the two different Spirits influences in way to us. God rules from within; outward. Satan influences from outside forces to influence an inward change of position,knowing that by doing simply that he then rules us once again concerning all the particulars of our actions. Where do our choices fall in that bigger picture in our influence toward or against God's Spirit assuming it is God's Spirit of life you are seeking?
It is true that thru our actions of obedience God moves in us from within, it is also true Satan moves to influence our mind thru the flesh and distractions and half-truths thru circumstance and flesh attractions and anything that brings our pride to bear.. but it is not in our control at all as to how broad and specific the Supernatural ability of Gods transformation is in us, save one thing: Our choice to surrender to it, and our empowerment thru obedience in God's purposes working thru us.
So, now going back to our doctrinal choices...it's simple it's up to Him. He won't give way to any deity change of Christ Jesus. And He will be involved in the specifics of His plan in this for you if we listen by seeking Him with all our....effort!
Simply put why defend the church that is not pouring the Christ you serve? Change. Second, if you don't see the problem in a ungodly church are you seeking Him? He will point this out to you. Yet, if a believer is in the fold of a church that is not edifying God the way God wants that church to function in that individuals life, can the brother still exist not being in error? Yes! But God will work to finish His message in time to this one brother, thus God is interested in our details in life, and at that point God thru the H.S. will give notice of the needed change..
Never choose then to be a worker for God, but once God has placed His call on you, or a thing to change, woe be to you if you " "turn aside to the right hand or to the left." Deut. 5:32. We must confine ourselves to the assignment in our lives that we are not here to work for God or make decisions of what church to go to based on our choices to do so, but because God has "Laid hold of us" And once He has done so, we never have the thought, "Well, I'm really not suited for this work, or this church, or this level of living." The whole of this issue is found in the answer to our everyday life: I know a broken record, but the only answer that matters of focus on the correct Jesus Christ! The one described by His Word.
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My church choice should be a reflection of:
"I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me." Philippine 3:12.
Some Churches Doctrine sells us on apprehending it. They call for a celebration in the 'seasons of truths'. But My bible tells me my church is a person in flux. A Jesus Christ God/person. "Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do.....I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." Phil. 3:13-14. The Doctrine of Jesus Christ's example needs to be any Churches choice in it's premise of doctrine's value. The way the sticks fall after that...let God do the detail work! Your Church should be a reflexion of Him in you once again.
"I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me." Philippine 3:12.
Some Churches Doctrine sells us on apprehending it. They call for a celebration in the 'seasons of truths'. But My bible tells me my church is a person in flux. A Jesus Christ God/person. "Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do.....I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." Phil. 3:13-14. The Doctrine of Jesus Christ's example needs to be any Churches choice in it's premise of doctrine's value. The way the sticks fall after that...let God do the detail work! Your Church should be a reflexion of Him in you once again.
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Web savvy, that's all ...
Nope. We're Southern Baptists. I was saved in an ABC church that withdrew from that Congress (the "C" in ABC) because of the denominations's adoption of liberal tenets in their constitution.
The ABC has some rather liberal congregations -- not surprising since they are still autonomous churches, as are just about all denominations with the name "Baptist" in them -- and those liberal congregations have done things like "affirming" gays as church leaders, and one or two have even "called" gay pastors, or performed LBGT marriages.
Nope, Baptist is Baptist. As I said in my OP earlier this year (yeah, it's an old thread), We don't claim -- or at least, I don't -- that Baptists go all the way back to the First Century. We simply say that there have been always churches holding to the biblical precepts as taught by the apostles, especially immersion for baptism and keeping the Lord's Supper, and our heritage as Baptists is drawn from those churches.
Further, these foundational churches existed alongside the Catholic Church for centuries, and were persecuted for refusing to join the RCC. Further, as the essential teachings of the Catholic Church were carried forward into the Lutheran separation -- sprinkling, infant "baptism," confession, etc. -- Protestants also persecuted the Baptists for not joining their movement.
They did so for the same reasons the Catholics persecuted Baptists: We refused to accept their teachings, and when converts from the Catholic and early Protestant churches joined a Baptist congregation, they were "rebaptized" by immersion. Hence, while the official name "Baptist" did not appear until the late 1500s, immersion resulted in people being referred to by both camps as "Baptists." It referred only to the immersion baptism those churches espoused, but the basis of belief in those medieval churches was nonetheless the essense of what most baptist denominations today believe, and teach.
Nope. We're Southern Baptists. I was saved in an ABC church that withdrew from that Congress (the "C" in ABC) because of the denominations's adoption of liberal tenets in their constitution.
The ABC has some rather liberal congregations -- not surprising since they are still autonomous churches, as are just about all denominations with the name "Baptist" in them -- and those liberal congregations have done things like "affirming" gays as church leaders, and one or two have even "called" gay pastors, or performed LBGT marriages.
Nope, Baptist is Baptist. As I said in my OP earlier this year (yeah, it's an old thread), We don't claim -- or at least, I don't -- that Baptists go all the way back to the First Century. We simply say that there have been always churches holding to the biblical precepts as taught by the apostles, especially immersion for baptism and keeping the Lord's Supper, and our heritage as Baptists is drawn from those churches.
Further, these foundational churches existed alongside the Catholic Church for centuries, and were persecuted for refusing to join the RCC. Further, as the essential teachings of the Catholic Church were carried forward into the Lutheran separation -- sprinkling, infant "baptism," confession, etc. -- Protestants also persecuted the Baptists for not joining their movement.
They did so for the same reasons the Catholics persecuted Baptists: We refused to accept their teachings, and when converts from the Catholic and early Protestant churches joined a Baptist congregation, they were "rebaptized" by immersion. Hence, while the official name "Baptist" did not appear until the late 1500s, immersion resulted in people being referred to by both camps as "Baptists." It referred only to the immersion baptism those churches espoused, but the basis of belief in those medieval churches was nonetheless the essense of what most baptist denominations today believe, and teach.
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