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It is a lie straight out of the pit that reduces what God considers sin to where a person can feel like they are not sinning even as they do. As Billy G said, "Even if our actions are pure, our thoughts often are not. And even if our actions and thoughts are pure, we still sin because of the good things we should be doing but fail to do."
Or as Jesus said, "You must be perfect, as perfect as the Father in Heaven"......anything less is to miss the mark, and is sin.
Or as Jesus said, "You must be perfect, as perfect as the Father in Heaven"......anything less is to miss the mark, and is sin.
Saved sinners and lost sinners...a very bad way to speak or think in my opinion. How can we say, we will probably sin in some way on most days(which is true) without making it appear that we should accept a life of sinning? We should never accept a life of sinning because that encourages sin, on the other hand, to pretend that we do not sin will also encourage sin, in that case we just don't call it sin. Here is something that maybe we are overlooking. This may sound strange but think about it. When we are saved we, meaning our person, is NOT given the ability to live a sinless life. If God actually gave us at salvation the ability to live a sinless life then all Christians would be sinless, we would be exact copies of Jesus Christ. Paul made it plain, that because of our flesh nature we do not have the ability to live a sinless life. We are told that if we walk(act of our will) after the Spirit THEN we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Folks, the lust of the flesh is with us till we die, we cannot of our own ability overcome it, however when we follow the Spirit then we do not give in to those lusts. So while following the Spirit we are sinless, and when we are not completely following the Spirit we can and do sin. So if there is anyone out there who is following the Spirit 100% of the time, then yes you are sinless, the rest of us sin at times.
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It isnt that God is bashing or condemning. Yes, God and the bible focus a lot on it. Theres a reason for that.
According to Jesus, sin condemns us through the law. Sin causes heartache and destruction and ruin. It brings death. This is why the focus.
You spoke of your parents, how they love you regardIess. Yes, and Im willing to wager on where their focus would be If yu were messin with a killer everyday.
God loves us very much and and wants for our goodness in life. Hence, He constantly warns us of that which will destroy our lives.
According to Jesus, sin condemns us through the law. Sin causes heartache and destruction and ruin. It brings death. This is why the focus.
You spoke of your parents, how they love you regardIess. Yes, and Im willing to wager on where their focus would be If yu were messin with a killer everyday.
God loves us very much and and wants for our goodness in life. Hence, He constantly warns us of that which will destroy our lives.
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Some good points here. You are correct, to much time is spent focusing on sin in the Christian life. Once we are born again, the focus should be on, what has happened to you, and beginning an intimate relationship with the Father through Christ. You now are a whole new creature in Christ and mind renewing must begin!
Sin is a factor, but not the key factor. Two important things to know about sin, 1. It will kill you. The wages of sin brings death Romans 6: 23. When we sin, it brings some sort of death into our lives if we stay in that sin. 2. Sin brings condemnation and 1 john 3:21-22 reveals that if our heart condemns us we have no confidence before God.
I john 1: 9 states when we sin, if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. He is not saying you are no longer righteous or you would have to be born again and again, and again. He is saying when you confess your sin, it cleanses you from the unrighteous feelings you get due to sin so you can approach God with confidence. Hebrews 4: 16 was a heresy to the newly converted jews who went from Law unto Grace because they were told they could come boldly to the throne of Grace. That was unheard of under the Old Covenant because ONLY the high priest could come into Gods presence once a year due to sin. That approach could only come after he had gone through temple rituals and blood sacrifice. But thank God for Hebrews 7:11-14. Along comes Jesus from the Tribe of Judah not Aaron and once you have a change of priest hood there is a change of Covenant. Under the new covenant you can come boldly before the throne of Grace and receive Grace and Mercy even if you have sinned.
So if you have or are sinning, run to God, get that condemnation off of you and allow his Grace and Mercy to change you and keep moving forward!!! We are called to be dead to sin and alive unto righteousness!
2 Corinthians 5: 17-21 clearly states God is not holding or imputing sin against us, however, sinning produces a void in our lives making us think God has turned his back on us.
The more we focus on who we are in Christ, yielding to the Holy Spirits promptings, developing personal time with God, the effects of sin get very distance.
Our whole purpose in life is to get to know and develop a relationship with God. We are to reckon ourselves dead to sin and alive unto righteousness.
Sin is a factor, but not the key factor. Two important things to know about sin, 1. It will kill you. The wages of sin brings death Romans 6: 23. When we sin, it brings some sort of death into our lives if we stay in that sin. 2. Sin brings condemnation and 1 john 3:21-22 reveals that if our heart condemns us we have no confidence before God.
I john 1: 9 states when we sin, if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. He is not saying you are no longer righteous or you would have to be born again and again, and again. He is saying when you confess your sin, it cleanses you from the unrighteous feelings you get due to sin so you can approach God with confidence. Hebrews 4: 16 was a heresy to the newly converted jews who went from Law unto Grace because they were told they could come boldly to the throne of Grace. That was unheard of under the Old Covenant because ONLY the high priest could come into Gods presence once a year due to sin. That approach could only come after he had gone through temple rituals and blood sacrifice. But thank God for Hebrews 7:11-14. Along comes Jesus from the Tribe of Judah not Aaron and once you have a change of priest hood there is a change of Covenant. Under the new covenant you can come boldly before the throne of Grace and receive Grace and Mercy even if you have sinned.
So if you have or are sinning, run to God, get that condemnation off of you and allow his Grace and Mercy to change you and keep moving forward!!! We are called to be dead to sin and alive unto righteousness!
2 Corinthians 5: 17-21 clearly states God is not holding or imputing sin against us, however, sinning produces a void in our lives making us think God has turned his back on us.
The more we focus on who we are in Christ, yielding to the Holy Spirits promptings, developing personal time with God, the effects of sin get very distance.
Our whole purpose in life is to get to know and develop a relationship with God. We are to reckon ourselves dead to sin and alive unto righteousness.
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Why sin is so important in the bible? Because and thats what god says: Sin destroyes relationship with the father! Jesus said in John 15,14:
"You are my friends, if you do whatsoever I command you."
To make sin small, means closing your eyes. If you consider what i shas cost Jesus to pay for it. And we want now have an easy life doing want we want, but to have the heaven!
We are strangers in this world, as Jesus says. We cant expect an peaceful, happy and healthy life on earth! What we can expect is persecution and hate from the world. ( i know we dont like it) Peter and the Apostles rejoced when they was beaten up because of their witness to the jewish leaders. (Acts 5, 41)
But sometimes it seems to me, that christians makeing rules which God not made. And this makes it often difficult.
And what is wrong to know that we are sinners and depent on Gods grace and forgiveness? I can live with this knowledge and be happy to belong to the Lord Jesus Christ.
And when I think back to the time when I found to Jesus! It was my sin which leds me to an holy mercyful God!
"You are my friends, if you do whatsoever I command you."
To make sin small, means closing your eyes. If you consider what i shas cost Jesus to pay for it. And we want now have an easy life doing want we want, but to have the heaven!
We are strangers in this world, as Jesus says. We cant expect an peaceful, happy and healthy life on earth! What we can expect is persecution and hate from the world. ( i know we dont like it) Peter and the Apostles rejoced when they was beaten up because of their witness to the jewish leaders. (Acts 5, 41)
But sometimes it seems to me, that christians makeing rules which God not made. And this makes it often difficult.
And what is wrong to know that we are sinners and depent on Gods grace and forgiveness? I can live with this knowledge and be happy to belong to the Lord Jesus Christ.
And when I think back to the time when I found to Jesus! It was my sin which leds me to an holy mercyful God!
There is only one true religion: The doctrine of Jesus Christ, so I don't make comparisons with other "religions". I don't think the New Testament focuses too much on sin, but I agree that some denominations do that. That's why we must learn from Him (by reading the Bible and confirmation from the Holy Spirit) and not only from preachers and Bible teachers.
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We all need to live our lives the way God wants.
Our sins can have big repercussions. If you defraud someone, the knock on effect can be extensive. e.g. they defraud someone else, and so on and so on. A small act of venality can have massive knock on effects actually, and destroy another person's life.
Sins easily become generational also. When you see your father doing something unwholesome, you are very likely to adopt his behaviour.
The problem with sin is that it is a degenerative condition, and as it spreads through society or generations, it tends just to get worse and worse.
Sin is just a catch all term....stealing, lying, cheating, being violent and so on[/FONT]
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We all need to live our lives the way God wants.
Our sins can have big repercussions. If you defraud someone, the knock on effect can be extensive. e.g. they defraud someone else, and so on and so on. A small act of venality can have massive knock on effects actually, and destroy another person's life.
Sins easily become generational also. When you see your father doing something unwholesome, you are very likely to adopt his behaviour.
The problem with sin is that it is a degenerative condition, and as it spreads through society or generations, it tends just to get worse and worse.
Sin is just a catch all term....stealing, lying, cheating, being violent and so on[/FONT]