Why should/would God forgive me?

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Jesus4ever

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Why?

I´m a miserable sinner, so why should He forgive me? I simply can´t stop sinning. The best I can do is to "delay" my major sin. He knows I want to stop sinning, to obey Him but I guess I´m too miserable to do it. I feel guilt, shame and sadness because I can´t stop sinning. Even when I´m able to have long periods of obedience, I feel bad and I fear for my salvation. I feel better and happier, that´s a fact, but I keep thinking I have no forgiveness. And in fact I do not deserve forgiveness.

This is strange because I really long for God, I pray everyday, I read the Bible, I have a relationship why Him, I long for videos about Him, I love to talk about Him to others (mostly non-christians), to give my testimony. Recently I´m dwelling seriously into Apologetics which is something I really want to study and do, I keep reading more about Him, but...sooner or later I end up falling again.

I hate feeling guilty! I think to myself that I´m not worth of His forgiveness, so why ask for it? I don´t deserve to be forgiven.

All I want is to love Him even more, to obey Him and serve Him! But I fail miserably...!


Please, brethren, would you give me your advice/help? Pray for me if you please! Thank you!



May God bless you!
 
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wwjd_kilden

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None of us deserve it, that is what is so amazing.

I don't know if this is a correct definition, but it does convey the message of the Gospel
"Mercy is not receiving what we deserve. Grace is receiving what we do not deserve"

We deserve death. Yet by Jesus, God gave us life. Undeserved!
 

Jesus4ever

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None of us deserve it, that is what is so amazing.

I don't know if this is a correct definition, but it does convey the message of the Gospel
"Mercy is not receiving what we deserve. Grace is receiving what we do not deserve"

We deserve death. Yet by Jesus, God gave us life. Undeserved!

Are you saying that I´m forgiven, sister?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Even when we/one sin repeatedly and consistently?
Then he expects you to keep trying to repent...but He won't withdraw his Salvation just because you sin
 
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Why?

I´m a miserable sinner, so why should He forgive me? I simply can´t stop sinning. The best I can do is to "delay" my major sin. He knows I want to stop sinning, to obey Him but I guess I´m too miserable to do it. I feel guilt, shame and sadness because I can´t stop sinning. Even when I´m able to have long periods of obedience, I feel bad and I fear for my salvation. I feel better and happier, that´s a fact, but I keep thinking I have no forgiveness. And in fact I do not deserve forgiveness.

This is strange because I really long for God, I pray everyday, I read the Bible, I have a relationship why Him, I long for videos about Him, I love to talk about Him to others (mostly non-christians), to give my testimony. Recently I´m dwelling seriously into Apologetics which is something I really want to study and do, I keep reading more about Him, but...sooner or later I end up falling again.

I hate feeling guilty! I think to myself that I´m not worth of His forgiveness, so why ask for it? I don´t deserve to be forgiven.

All I want is to love Him even more, to obey Him and serve Him! But I fail miserably...!


Please, brethren, would you give me your advice/help? Pray for me if you please! Thank you!



May God bless you!
The Lord would rather have loving relationships with us than hateful ones. He's happy to forgive us if we repent of our sin. Eventually we all feel the same way. I'd rather forgive my brother, if he is repentant, than hate him. Hate only brings misery.
 

Adstar

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Why?

I´m a miserable sinner, so why should He forgive me? I simply can´t stop sinning. The best I can do is to "delay" my major sin. He knows I want to stop sinning, to obey Him but I guess I´m too miserable to do it. I feel guilt, shame and sadness because I can´t stop sinning. Even when I´m able to have long periods of obedience, I feel bad and I fear for my salvation. I feel better and happier, that´s a fact, but I keep thinking I have no forgiveness. And in fact I do not deserve forgiveness.

This is strange because I really long for God, I pray everyday, I read the Bible, I have a relationship why Him, I long for videos about Him, I love to talk about Him to others (mostly non-christians), to give my testimony. Recently I´m dwelling seriously into Apologetics which is something I really want to study and do, I keep reading more about Him, but...sooner or later I end up falling again.

I hate feeling guilty! I think to myself that I´m not worth of His forgiveness, so why ask for it? I don´t deserve to be forgiven.

All I want is to love Him even more, to obey Him and serve Him! But I fail miserably...!


Please, brethren, would you give me your advice/help? Pray for me if you please! Thank you!



May God bless you!
You are part of Gods creation Right ?

God wants to Restore /Redeem His creation Right ?

So you would agree God wants to Redeem you Right ?

Do you believe Redemption is a gift from God to save sinners ? I hope you do..

Matthew 9: KJV
10 "¶ And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. {11} And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? {12} But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. {13} But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
 
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kaylagrl

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Even when we/one sin repeatedly and consistently?


No, we are not to live in sin. Failing is one thing,but we are not to live in sin.Romans says:


I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.


If we lean on our flesh we will continue to sin and move farther from God. If we lean on Jesus we will grow up spiritually and sin less and less as we mature in the faith.
 

Jesus4ever

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Thank you so much for your answers, dear brethren.

Although I know everything you´re writing, I guess I can´t stop feeling guilty and mostly that He may be/is disappointed with me. That really breaks my heart! :(

Although I know I´m not living in repeated sin, I end up sinning more time that I wanted too. In fact, I wanted to be perfect to Him, because I love Him and want to please/obey Him!
 
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kaylagrl

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Thank you so much for your answers, dear brethren.

Although I know everything you´re writing, I guess I can´t stop feeling guilty and mostly that He may be/is disappointed with me. That really breaks my heart! :(

Although I know I´m not living in repeated sin, I end up sinning more time that I wanted too. In fact, I wanted to be perfect to Him, because I love Him and want to please/obey Him!


You have a soft heart so dont ever feel bad about conviction.Its when we dont feel convicted that we need to worry. But remember when we ask for forgiveness God never remembers our sin again. He throws it into the sea of forgetfulness,like we never committed it. Sometimes its harder to forgive ourselves. Stay close to Him and you will see a change as you fail less and less.
 

Adstar

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Although I know I´m not living in repeated sin, I end up sinning more time that I wanted too. In fact, I wanted to be perfect to Him, because I love Him and want to please/obey Him!
Thats the right Spirit :D God knows out intentions and He understands our faulty natures.. Thats why He came into this world to pay the price for our sins.. What an awesome Loving God we have.. :D I hope you agree..
 
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BeyondET

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#13
It may help to recognize the enemies tactics and to work on changing these negative thoughts and feelings that consume you.

miserable, guilt, shame and sadness,
 
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FreeNChrist

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#14
He forgives you because He is a forgiving God, not because there is anything about you that merits forgiveness.
 
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Markson4time

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From what you said I think the problem is that you have find if difficult to forgive yourself. You have to forgive yourself.
Another one I want to draw your attention to what 1john 1:8 say, "if we claim to be without sin then we are deceiving ourselves and there is no truth in us.
Another part of the Bible that you have to look at is Luke 18:9-14. We do not deserve forgiveness but we cannot come before God and not ask for forgiveness. Asking for forgiveness to me is also an act of humility before God.
Another thing you have to try forget about that particular sin so the will not go back to the same again.
May the love of the Lord Jesus Christ and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit dwell with you.
 
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Romans 7
14For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. 15For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. 16But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. 17So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. 18For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. 21I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. 22For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, 23but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. 24Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? 25Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

Go to biblehub.com & study this in their commentaries. The majority of them will agree to the truth.

Everyone sins, but everyone doesn't practice sin.

God knows we live in corrupt flesh, & gives us a space for repentance.

Like another said, when you ask for forgiveness, forgive yourself. Learn to show yourself the grace & mercy God shows us every day.
:)
 

G00WZ

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When you sin you are to confess your sin to God... 1 John 1:8-10.. so you can be purified and righteous again...1 John 2:1 says that when you do sin you have an advocate with the father. Jesus said in Matthew 16:24 said if anyone wants to follow him they have to deny themselves and pick up their cross..this ties into Ephesians 4:22-24 because we are to put off the old way/ self and put on the new self.. we are to emulate Jesus, and not to be living in the old mindset.. Ephesians 5:1-2.. You have the spirit of God living in you, and you are the temple of God.. 1 Corinthians 3:16.
I am reminding you of this so you can remember what you have in Christ.. feeling constantly guilty and shamed/fearful is part of the old mindset you need to get rid of, and renewing your mind and emulating Christ is what will cause you to grow into Christ and deepen your relationship with God.... and as for why should God forgive you... its not a matter of why but who He is, and His will.. Reconciliation is part of who He is.
 
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Tinuviel

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Hey brother, every last Christian sins. Paul was so overwhelmed with the heaviness of his sin that he called himself the "chief of sinners" in the first epistle to Timothy. When we sin, God gives us a sense of guilt to remind us to bring it to HIM. On our own, we don't have the strength to deal with it ourselves; that's why He sent His Son to die, so that Jesus could pay the price we were too weak to pay. Now, our sins are FORGIVEN. And you can be sure of that because God has punished Jesus instead of you. God is just, he cannot punish sin twice. If you're a believer, you need never fear God's eternal displeasure, because Christ took that for you :)
 

BillG

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Feb 15, 2017
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Why?

I´m a miserable sinner, so why should He forgive me? I simply can´t stop sinning. The best I can do is to "delay" my major sin. He knows I want to stop sinning, to obey Him but I guess I´m too miserable to do it. I feel guilt, shame and sadness because I can´t stop sinning. Even when I´m able to have long periods of obedience, I feel bad and I fear for my salvation. I feel better and happier, that´s a fact, but I keep thinking I have no forgiveness. And in fact I do not deserve forgiveness.

This is strange because I really long for God, I pray everyday, I read the Bible, I have a relationship why Him, I long for videos about Him, I love to talk about Him to others (mostly non-christians), to give my testimony. Recently I´m dwelling seriously into Apologetics which is something I really want to study and do, I keep reading more about Him, but...sooner or later I end up falling again.

I hate feeling guilty! I think to myself that I´m not worth of His forgiveness, so why ask for it? I don´t deserve to be forgiven.

All I want is to love Him even more, to obey Him and serve Him! But I fail miserably...!


Please, brethren, would you give me your advice/help? Pray for me if you please! Thank you!



May God bless you!
To me to be honest you are in the right place as such.

You are totally honest with yourself and with God.

Now our loving Heavenly Father can work with that. He can and will work with people who are thruthful and not liars.


Luke 18:10-14
“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

Jesus died for people like you, like me who all struggle like you do and I do.

God is in the business of restoring us, conforming us into the image of Jesus whom we have placed our faith in to deliver us and save us.

It is God through the Holy Spirit to assure us of our salvation and work in us to break the strongholds of a particular sin we continue to struggle with, and other stuff we get wrong.

To remove guilt. Guilt does not come from God.

Loving correction and reprove and training come from him. Not condemnation.

When you get it wrong, come before him, talk to him, tell him you got it wrong, ask him to help you and for you to trust in him then THANK HIM THAT ON ACCOUNT OF JESUS THAT YOU ARE FORGIVEN.

If I am totally honest sit back from the apologetics for a while. It can mess with your head, apologetics is about defending the faith. If you want to be skilled in this you have to learn about defending the faith, in order to do so you have to look at the arguments against what you believe.


Dont take this the wrong way and I mean this in love.

At the moment you are not fully secure in your faith, and your belief of whom you are in Christ. And to be honest those who hate Christ enough the extent will argue the points that you struggle wit.

The reason I say this is because you state

I fear bad and fear for my salvation and I keep thinking I have no forgiveness.

In my honest opinion you should start reading and learning and praying and understand exactly who you are in Christ, what you are in Christ.

For me on this point my journey started when I did the Freedom in Christ course.
Maybe others could suggest other material.

So to start you off I am going to post the following verse, one that many Christians seemed to have missed, overlooked.

John 17:23
I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Notice GOD LOVES YOU AS MUCH AS HE LOVES JESUS.

Bill
 

Chris1975

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Apr 27, 2017
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Why?

I´m a miserable sinner, so why should He forgive me? I simply can´t stop sinning. The best I can do is to "delay" my major sin. He knows I want to stop sinning, to obey Him but I guess I´m too miserable to do it. I feel guilt, shame and sadness because I can´t stop sinning. Even when I´m able to have long periods of obedience, I feel bad and I fear for my salvation. I feel better and happier, that´s a fact, but I keep thinking I have no forgiveness. And in fact I do not deserve forgiveness.

This is strange because I really long for God, I pray everyday, I read the Bible, I have a relationship why Him, I long for videos about Him, I love to talk about Him to others (mostly non-christians), to give my testimony. Recently I´m dwelling seriously into Apologetics which is something I really want to study and do, I keep reading more about Him, but...sooner or later I end up falling again.

I hate feeling guilty! I think to myself that I´m not worth of His forgiveness, so why ask for it? I don´t deserve to be forgiven.

All I want is to love Him even more, to obey Him and serve Him! But I fail miserably...!


Please, brethren, would you give me your advice/help? Pray for me if you please! Thank you!



May God bless you!
Romans 7 and Romans 8. Pray, read carefully, pray that the Lord reveal this to you.

Then pray for the Fear of the Lord. It's the beginning of knowledge, understanding and wisdom.

You love your sin. You need to set your mind on the things of the Spirit, and not set your mind on the things of the flesh. Your flesh looks for opportunity to open the door. You haven't decided to hate the sin. But you cannot have your sin and have Christ. You cannot serve two masters.

Those here who tell you you can have both are like the blind leading the blind.

That nagging on your conscience is very real. You are not feeling peace because despite what is said above on this thread, your conscience bears witness against you. Only the blood of Christ can cleanse you, and give you a clean conscience. But first you must choose as to whom you really want to serve - whether the Spirit of Christ leading to life, or the flesh leading to death.

Call upon the name of the Lord. Tonight. Decide that you will not be double minded. Serve Him and Him alone.