Why the word "Easter" is properly translated in Acts 12:4 in the KJB

[nathan3]

Ishtar and Easter are not the same, I use to think that myself that's why I didn't celebrate Easter, I have recently been forced to re-evaluate my beliefs.

You made a error in your evaluation . My advice is you re-evaluate your last evaluation. because it is wrong. And your going in a circle of error.


The bunny rabbit is even thrown into it. If you did not know, Rabbits are know for their fertility , as well as that being what the egg stands for. Ishtar the goddess of fertility and sexually orgies.... Also, The word Easter is not in the manuscripts. You must have just read over that...

When you "evaluate" your position on a thing, make sure you consider all the information, and that your not reading over something vital.

 

[Andrew1]

I gave the word in the MANUSCRIPTS from which the original word is found, and Easter is Not found there. Regardless of your lack of understanding of the history of Ishtar, the word Easter is Not in the manuscripts as I just showed below.

I am fully aware that the English word Easter did not exist in the original manuscripts, Easter is not a pagan word it has some common roots with other pagan words but is not itself pagan. Pascha meant Easter at the time Luke wrote it in Acts 12:4. It was the Christian celebration to which Luke was referring not the Jewish one. I've already shown that the early Christians celebrated Christs resurrection as "Pascha" ie "Easter"

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Why did the New King James Version change the word from Easter to Passover?

[h=3]Acts 12:4[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]4 [/SUP]So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

To correct the error!! In the 1611 KJV many doctrines of men and man made traditions were in practice with the Roman Catholic Church. The translators knew the differences and in the early printing of 1611 KJV the "truth" was placed in the margins (or so I have read.)

 

[nathan3]

I am fully aware that the English word Easter did not exist in the original manuscripts, Easter is not a pagan word it has some common roots with other pagan words but is not itself pagan. Pascha meant Easter at the time Luke wrote it in Acts 12:4. It was the Christian celebration to which Luke was referring not the Jewish one. I've already shown that the early Christians celebrated Christs resurrection as "Pascha" ie "Easter"

You seem to ignore the fact that the Bible was not written in English, and that Luke did not write the Bible in English. That the Manuscripts from which the Bible is translated from are Greek and Hebrew, from where you are quoting. Not English. And that the word is properly translated all other times in the Bible as passover, the same word Hebrew or Greek is in the Manuscripts Passover.It should be clear that Easter is a mistranslation in the English. The manuscripts is the authority when it comes to scripture. The word Easter is Not in the Manuscripts. Period.

The Word in the manuscripts that you quoted in the English, is Passover. Below I showed what is written in the Manuscripts themselves.

 

[nathan3]

Why did the New King James Version change the word from Easter to Passover?

[h=3]Acts 12:4[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]4 [/SUP]So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

To correct the error!! In the 1611 KJV many doctrines of men and man made traditions were in practice with the Roman Catholic Church. The translators knew the differences and in the early printing of 1611 KJV the "truth" was placed in the margins (or so I have read.)

Like you said, they simply corrected the error . They where right there in doing that. Because the word in the ancient copies is Passover.


1 Corinthians 5:7

King James Version (KJV)

7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

 

[Andrew1]

You made a error in your evaluation . My advice is you re-evaluate your last evaluation. because it is wrong. And your going in a circle of error.


The bunny rabbit is even thrown into it. If you did not know, Rabbits are know for their fertility , as well as that being what the egg stands for. Ishtar the goddess of fertility and sexually orgies.... Also, The word Easter is not in the manuscripts. You must have just read over that...

When you "evaluate" your position on a thing, make sure you consider all the information, and that your not reading over something vital.

Obviously when the Saviours Pascha was first celebrated, they didn't engage in sexual orgies or employ Egg laying bunny Rabbits in there celebration. Pagans later on celebrated there own special holiday at the same time of year but they are not historically associated with each-other. Today pagan symbols are finding their way into the celebration because of this. And Christians should dispense with these, but Easter itself has been Christian since the days of the Apostles.

 

[nathan3]

Obviously when the Saviours Pascha was first celebrated, they didn't engage in sexual orgies or employ Egg laying bunny Rabbits in there celebration. Pagans later on celebrated there own special holiday at the same time of year but they are not historically associated with each-other. Today pagan symbols are finding their way into the celebration because of this. And Christians should dispense with these, but Easter itself has been Christian since the days of the Apostles.

I have no clue in the face of the word not Even existing in the manuscripts( Anyone can check that out using Strong's E. C. ) that you would hold onto that word that is a disrespect to Christ actions on Passover. Easter was never spoken in the mouth of the Apostles because its not in the manuscripts . Your basing your string of thoughts from the starting point of a mistake.


1 Corinthians 5:7

King James Version (KJV)

7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:........


I have nothing more to add to it. I just refer people to what i wrote already .



( P.S Wikipedia & a lot of online dictionaries are not proper dictionaries .)

 

[RedTent]

Obviously when the Saviours Pascha was first celebrated, they didn't engage in sexual orgies or employ Egg laying bunny Rabbits in there celebration. Pagans later on celebrated there own special holiday at the same time of year but they are not historically associated with each-other. Today pagan symbols are finding their way into the celebration because of this. And Christians should dispense with these, but Easter itself has been Christian since the days of the Apostles.

Even if the word Easter actually meant Passover, it really makes no difference. And when they Christianized the pagan worship, they also took out some of the pagan ways of celebrating it. They used it as a basis for Christian worship and added things of Christ and took away things of the pagans. The purpose was both to make it easy for the pagans to switch their Gods and to get rid of anything of the Jews. The point is that God says not to turn pagan worship into God worship. We know God the Father is our creator and we should worship Him. We have said that because the Jews deny Christ, we should be careful of anything Jewish. That does not include being careful of anything of God our Father.

You say Easter was celebrated even before 70, when the Jews were still in charge of the Christian Church? That is hard to believe. It was after gentiles took charge, after 70, that the momentum to get rid of anything Jewish and start a new religion began. Making circumcision, food laws, and even feasts unnecessary began early, but Passover was very basic. I would have to see proof that was changed. If it was always changed, it seems strange they would need to address it in the Nicene Council.

 

[HoldingOn2013]

I always understood it to mean Eostre or Ishtar. The goddess of Spring or fertility. Which was related to people worshiping the sun because she was represented by the planet Venus which the sits in front or behind the sun depending on the the time of day. Lets face it, what most people celebrate today has nothing to do with Jesus. The bunny laying eggs is a representation of Eostre, not Jesus. We can argue this point to no end, but the fact is that celebrating and/or participating in an egg hunt or buying into the whole bunny thing is a perversion of what the real meaning is of Passover. Take it or leave it... I don't know how anyone can justify participating in something like this. But that's just my opinion.

 

[kenisyes]

Words mean whatever people agree they mean. In the days when the KJV was translated, Easter meant the updated Christian Passover, because hardly anyone knew the history of the word. We have more information today, so our understanding of the word is more influenced by etymology. We compensate by more churches celebrating Christian versions of Passover to the extent that a few have already abandoned Easter. It is the same as our problem with realizing Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. The compensation is part of the restoration of the Feast of Tabernacles.

The celebrations of Easter, like the bunny and the eggs, or for that matter Santa Claus for Christmas, are all determined by social context as well. Simply download the old radio shows and movies from the 1940's, ot explore the Orthodox traditions of egg decoration or the Polish tradition of the butter lamb, and you will see the great difference in cultural significance that occurs when the knowledge we have today was not available.

God expects us all to work with the understanding we have.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Easter also has another unique tradition attached to it. The eating of ham. Where did that tradition come from?

 

[kenisyes]

Easter also has another unique tradition attached to it. The eating of ham. Where did that tradition come from?

Brilliant! I can hardly stop laughing long enough to suggest the eggs needed company.

 

[iamsoandso]

there would be no reason for herod...who had no respect for christianity...to have waited until after the christian celebration of jesus' resurrection...

it is clear that herod was waiting until the end of the jewish feast of unleavened bread...also called passover...and that the 'pascha' in this passage is referring to that feast...not a christian feast anachronistically called 'Easter...

"hats off rachel,,,,",,,,,that is Herod(Jewish/non-christian),,,,,who cut off James(a christian) head,,,,and seeing it pleased the (Jews/non Christian) he was about do cut off peters(christian) head also,,,,,,but he(herod/jewish non christian) stopped to celebrate "easter",,,,as you point out the only one time the word translated Easter in the bible is being celebrated by a Jewish non christian,,,,to rachel,,,


to the others,,,, now the works of eusebius,,are not the only works that should be researched on this matter,,many of the early church members reflected on this very matter,,,,,"Eucharist",,,,in the fragments of irenious is the recollection of this (as it was celebrated by the churches in rome one way and in aisa another),,,polycarp traveled to rome and argued the very point stating the way that john and the other apostles celebrated it,,(?),,,,that is they did not "bend the knee",,,or bow down(?),,,,in the end they yielded to polycarp seeing he was the only surviving church member who had witnessed the apostles teaching.

Polycarp of Smyrna: The Second Century Heretic Fighter here is an interesting article,,,,"i am not a member of c.o.g. organization",,,,,i am christian.. but i give this to help you with your own private research. read it all if you like but if you scroll down to "Easter",(3/4 down) there are mentioned the letters about the churches divisions on the same matter "Easter" as to how it should be viewed. it was not changed to sunday for a hundred years this meeting. but as ireanius pointed our in the fragments some celebrated it one way some another,,some one day,some seven,some every day of the year. i every-time i eat and drink,,,but be compelled to honer this after your own research, yesterday was the lords day to me,tomorrow is the lords day to me,,today is the lords day to me,,,,,,,,,i ask blessing for the bread that was broken,,and the cup that was poured out,,,

 

[iamsoandso]

i should also add that these books are online,if you google them you can read them in full. the link i gave gives the "names of the books where they are referred to",,,,,as i myself read thru some of the articles on the www i think,,,"well could have meant this also",,,,,so i go to the entire books and research,,,