Womens Punishment ended?

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coby2

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Would someone be so kind to show me in Scriptures where the punishment given to women by GOD has ended?

Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This is a Punishment That God gave to women for eating of the forbidden fruit.

So then my question is, WHO changed it? Who said that women are equal with men? Who said the husband WILL NOT rule over them? Who said the punishment has ended for women?

So go ahead and call me male chauvinist, or a chauvinistic pig, or whatever else you want to call me to make yourself feel better, but it will not change the TRUTH of God. Woe to this generation for the women have become men, and the men have become women.

IF God said Husband will rule over the wife. Satan teaches "NOT SO" Women are equal to men. Satan will teach contrary to what God teaches. If God says "Wives obey your husband in everything". satan will teach contrary "Wives you do not have to obey your husbands" Now in this wicked (last days generation) Women wear the pants and men just do whatever their wives say to do "or else" satan has turned this world around, and now women rule over their husbands.

But now you have NO excuses. i have told you the TRUTH, if you do not live by what the Scriptures teach, then you are living by what satan teaches. Sugar coat it all you want to, but those who continue to NOT live in the Word of God, will NOT be taken up with Him when He returns. You have been warned.

Let the stone throwing begin.

^i^
Oh when I saw the title I thought you meant medication for a pain free deliverance.
Well we still have the pain etc. of that lol and a bossing around lazy guy isn't very helpful when you're pregnant and can also take the other curse because they don't want to work. Luckily for some women some men have gotten a new nature so they're like Christ who gave His Life for His bride.
 
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psychomom

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Would someone be so kind to show me in Scriptures where the punishment given to women by GOD has ended?

Gen_3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

This is a Punishment That God gave to women for eating of the forbidden fruit.

So then my question is, WHO changed it? Who said that women are equal with men? Who said the husband WILL NOT rule over them? Who said the punishment has ended for women?

So go ahead and call me male chauvinist, or a chauvinistic pig, or whatever else you want to call me to make yourself feel better, but it will not change the TRUTH of God. Woe to this generation for the women have become men, and the men have become women.

IF God said Husband will rule over the wife. Satan teaches "NOT SO" Women are equal to men. Satan will teach contrary to what God teaches. If God says "Wives obey your husband in everything". satan will teach contrary "Wives you do not have to obey your husbands" Now in this wicked (last days generation) Women wear the pants and men just do whatever their wives say to do "or else" satan has turned this world around, and now women rule over their husbands.

But now you have NO excuses. i have told you the TRUTH, if you do not live by what the Scriptures teach, then you are living by what satan teaches. Sugar coat it all you want to, but those who continue to NOT live in the Word of God, will NOT be taken up with Him when He returns. You have been warned.

Let the stone throwing begin.

^i^

allow me to try again.

you know you're pushing buttons based on your last line.
and you offer a thinly veiled threat... well, let's face it, not veiled at all... with the final paragraph.

i could easily come back with a remark like:
i hope you earn your living subsistence farming sweat of your brow-style because that's your 'punishment'.

but see how i resist doing that? ;)

probably because it easy for me to submit to my lovely husband.
he values my opinion, asks for it, often acts on it.
and he's so busy laying down his life for me, if he ever asks anything of me i'm delighted to do it!

the literal LAST thing he would ever do is tell me, ell? if you don't obey me you're damned.
because he knows the Gospel.
 
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psychomom

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Your statement seems to imply there's something wrong with being single. Many singles feel like they're second class citizens who are cast aside in their congregations because married folk look down on them.

Hmmm...

say it ain't so! :(
 
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so your salvation isnt enough? Christ will damn you because you didnt obey?

You were doing well until you closed with that...
 

Angela53510

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Let's see - Jesus??

Jesus fulfilled the law, broke the curse (for men and women, as well as the earth). While this world is not what it will be when Jesus returns, as Christians we are certainly to love one another. God is the one who is in charge of punishment, or perhaps a better word would be "discipline." And discipline is hard, but it helps us grow and be conformed to the image of Christ.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matt 5:17

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Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent." Rev. 3:19

And again, to the OP, who would have us live under the curse of the law.

"10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”—14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith." Gal. 3:6-10

How does Jesus want us to live? Does he want us to live with men being twisted and destroyed with a power ethic, one of domination, or does Jesus want us to love one another?

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:34-35

Please note that this is a NEW commandment, which means we no longer follow the rules and admonitions of the Old Testament.

Using Genesis 3:16 to prove how we should live in the New Testament is a very bad hermeneutic. It is necessary to read the whole Bible, and to see the way Christ changes the way we are to live, and gives us a new ethic. Yes, repentance and forgiveness is part of that ethic, but we are not to lift proof texts out of Genesis and then forget the whole reason Christ came was to be a perfect sacrifice for sin, so the Old Testament is no longer in force, including the consequences of the Fall.

Perhaps, Dave, you need to take a course or do some studying on Biblical interpretation, or hermeneutics, before you come back to CC posting outrageous and totally incorrect posts.
 
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psalm6819

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#26
So Dave, have you always felt like your Mom favored your siblings more than you?
 
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Do you think Dave is sitting back laughing? hmmmmm
I do wonder ya know:confused:
 
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roaringkitten

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#32
so your salvation isnt enough? Christ will damn you because you didnt obey?

You were doing well until you closed with that...
DiscipleDave believes that a Christian can end up going to hell if he disobeys Christ. He said so in the OSAS thread.
 
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psychomom

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#33
Do you think Dave is sitting back laughing? hmmmmm
I do wonder ya know:confused:
ehm, if you have a look at his posting history, i think you'll agree probably not.
 
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coby2

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#34
Curse of Genesis:

*To the woman He said:

“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire*shall be*for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”

17*Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

“Cursed*is*the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat*of*it
All the days of your life.
18*Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
19*In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread


Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written,*“Cursed*is*everyone who hangs on a tree”


Btw I never see men sweat anymore either if they work in an office. They should shut the airco off.
 

Utah

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LOL, in your judgement of me, yes. More than you know.
Good. I'm glad I'm wrong. However, you attacked the OP rather than what he shared and that makes you just as wrong. Its nice to know we're all sinners. :)
 

Angela53510

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Do you think Dave is sitting back laughing? hmmmmm
I do wonder ya know:confused:

It seems like a plausible explanation - throwing a torch into the forum, and watching people scramble as they try to get away from the flames. And then laughing!

Sadly, Dave goes on these rants from time to time. He thinks he is some kind of prophet of God, but he doesn't really know the Bible well enough to be a prophet and contradicts the Bible frequently.

It is really a bad thing that we currently have so many false prophets in this forum. I guess we do need to be aware that wolves do come in sheep's clothing.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matt 7:15

 
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FreeNChrist

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Good. I'm glad I'm wrong. However, you attacked the OP rather than what he shared and that makes you just as wrong. Its nice to know we're all sinners. :)

I attacked no one. Give it a rest Utah.
 
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coby2

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Oh luckily he isn't married. I started to feel for his wife. Sweetheart can you lead me? Yes as a punishment. Sweet.