Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Peters

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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

What was the context



So because you THINK he left it out because of that, Means that is what he actually meant?

So you too can rread peoples minds. Wow we have alot of mind readers in CC lately!
JP is a deceiver who believes being holy is a work that does away with grace.
And why would he leave the end of a verse of.
I think you should watch JP, and you'll see what a false grace teacher he is.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

I did a few weeks ago, but apparently many prefer to simply ignore the obvious and still go with things like "expect preachers to be right and wrong at the same time," "no one gets it right," and the famous "you put in the effort to figure out what he says that isn't true, because I rather listen than think."

Here it is again to be ignored again and to respond to with a sound definitive, "Nan-Nanh!" Joseph Prince: Unmerited Favor - Christian Research Institute
This article has been proven to be bunk. Taking Princes words out of context, and asking him say things he never said. (was not that hate thread getting closed enough??)

Why do people keep bringing this (removed)

Since when do we get our views of what others believe by people who are apposed to them? This is nonsense Sadly, it is becoming the norm in Christian chat..
 
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Those in Christ, has also been healed, yet many Christians don't live in divine health.
Jesus gave us abundant live, but not every Christian walks in the abundant life.
It's the same with sanctification, Jesus is made unto us sanctification, but it's something that we have to do, just like we need to receive healing.

You are one of end time deceivers, who teach the same as the Nicolaitions, which Jesus hates.
.nonsense...so, if they are already healed in Christ and those that do not get healed in this life and die - do they go to hell in your religion?

Christians that do not walk in abundant life before they die - do they go to hell too in your religion?

..then in your mind - those that are not perfect in sanctification that is in our inner man in Christ before they die - they go to your hell too. That is sheer nonsense and spiritual ignorance that has gone to seed.

You, in all seriousness do not know the love of God for His children and the great salvation that was paid for by the blood of His dearly loved Son - our Lord Jesus. The Lord is not looking for ways to keep His beloved children from Him.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

JP is a deceiver who believes being holy is a work that does away with grace.
And why would he leave the end of a verse of.
I think you should watch JP, and you'll see what a false grace teacher he is.
Oh?

I have watched him and read some of the accusations against him, And read the words JP said in context.

He does not say most of what is said against him. But if you want to buy into false accusations, and believe people who bear false witness against others. thats on you.

I do not agree with everything he says, and have only looked at the accusations made against him and went to verify if what he was accused of (according to his gospel) was true or not. But what I see, His gospel is right on..
 

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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

All you and the man in those video's have proved, Is, You don't know the Bible.
Jesus was the first Word of faith man, And Paul was a WOF person, So you can see how ignorant that false cult man in the video is.
Funny, I find him well justified in exposing of the prosperity preachers in those video clips. One who doesn't recognize the error of those prosperity preachers in those clips in comparison to God's Holy Writ actually show they don't know God's Holy Writ.

If all a preacher focuses on is money, what is he thinking about most of the time? Ans: Money!
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

you know what amazes me, It seems this chat room this past few months has been an ANTI JP chat room.. And he is not even a member.

That is sad, for a room supposedly full of Christians.. to tear down a guy who can not even defend himself
 
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Oh?

I have watched him and read some of the accusations against him, And read the words JP said in context.

He does not say most of what is said against him. But if you want to buy into false accusations, and believe people who bear false witness against others. thats on you.

I do not agree with everything he says, and have only looked at the accusations made against him and went to verify if what he was accused of (according to his gospel) was true or not. But what I see, His gospel is right on..
The attack on him is really an attack on the gospel of the grace of God - which relies totally on the finished work of Christ alone which is by grace through faith. It was the same for Paul when he was slanderously accused of saying it was ok to sin all we want because of what he preached.

When we preach the true gospel of the grace of Christ and people do not accuse us of saying that we are really saying we can sin all we want. This is a dead give away that the true gospel is not being preached.



 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

A Biblically balances grace, is the Biblical grace, Grace as the Bible teaches, Not as the false grace teachers teach.
Which is, we can live as we want to and do what we want to, as it's not what we do or don't do, It's all by grace.
They say they can sins much as they want to, because all our sins have been forgiven, they say we don't have to confess sins or repent of sins, as that is a work and being legalistic, and putting oneself back under the law.

One of the leading well known false grace teacher said,
"All we need to go up in the rapture, is to be alive on earth at that time, Then he said, We don't have to be faithful or holy, Just here at the time".

He also had Acts 20: 32 on a screen, which said,
"I commend you to God, and the word of His grace, which is able to build you up, and give you an inheritance",
But he left out, "Among all them who are sanctified".

And the reason he left the "Sanctified", out, is because he says living a sanctified life is being legalistic and putting yourself back under the law.
That's what I call a false grace teaching.
But a Balanced Grace teaching would be, Grace builds up by God's word and gives an inheritance to those who are sanctified,
[Those who live sanctified lives].
If this was an attempt to state what grace has to be "balanced" with, it failed to do so.
 

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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

there are many that are looking into these "Not really Christian" movements. does anyone ask why? im sure many are into these things as they think its the next cool fad or what ever but many and i mean many are knocking and seeking, what did Jesus teach on knocking and seeking?
i think in todays age we have something very similar to the days when Jesus was teaching. those that followed Jesus did it because they knew the current way was not working. i think many are seeing the same thing today.
I think those who follow the prosperity/grace movements are looking for a freebie, like the multitudes here...

John 6:26-27
26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek Me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.

27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for Him hath God the Father sealed.
KJV


The wealth of this world perisheth.
 
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If this was an attempt to state what grace has to be "balanced" with, it failed to do so.

Grace has to be balanced with the Bible, you cannot have a grace teaching that's outside the Bible, Do pay attention.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

How do you know Hagin was wrong, It might be you not believing the Bible, as you obviously don't know much about the Bible, and your defence of Prince proves it.
We all have been wrong including hagin.

Even he says so

About every other sermon he used to say "You all tell me if I missed it"

He is a man ,not a deity.
 
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.nonsense...so, if they are already healed in Christ and those that do not get healed in this life and die - do they go to hell in your religion?

Christians that do not walk in abundant life before they die - do they go to hell too in your religion?

..then in your mind - those that are not perfect in sanctification that is in our inner man in Christ before they die - they go to your hell too. That is sheer nonsense and spiritual ignorance that has gone to seed.

You, in all seriousness do not know the love of God for His children and the great salvation that was paid for by the blood of His dearly loved Son - our Lord Jesus. The Lord is not looking for ways to keep His beloved children from Him.



You are being silly, and it's because you know that you are wrong.
I know the love of God, and I know the TRUE grace, my question is, Do you know the Lord??
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Funny, I find him well justified in exposing of the prosperity preachers in those video clips. One who doesn't recognize the error of those prosperity preachers in those clips in comparison to God's Holy Writ actually show they don't know God's Holy Writ.

If all a preacher focuses on is money, what is he thinking about most of the time? Ans: Money!


The you don't know the Bible.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Oh?

I have watched him and read some of the accusations against him, And read the words JP said in context.

He does not say most of what is said against him. But if you want to buy into false accusations, and believe people who bear false witness against others. thats on you.

I do not agree with everything he says, and have only looked at the accusations made against him and went to verify if what he was accused of (according to his gospel) was true or not. But what I see, His gospel is right on..


The you are either a liar, or you don't know the Bible, or you haven't heard JP's false doctrines and what a deceiver he is.
Everytime the Bible proves him wrong , he says it's not for the Christians.
 

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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Of the Word of Faith Movement, Justin Peters calls it "metaphysical cults", "new age", "Christian Science", "Some Kabbalah", "gnostic","cultic","not really Christian", "The Secret is like Word of Faith doctrine".

This video is a condensed version of a three part series he does titled A Call For Discernment. I posted the full three part series below this post.

[video=youtube;CgFYtglyjIo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgFYtglyjIo[/video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgFYtglyjIo
Thanks for posting this video! It is one of the best presentations of exposing false gospels that I have ever seen.
 

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The you don't know the Bible.
I know my Heavenly Father's Word very... well, thank you!

If you want to side with charlatans who steal people's money then go to, I won't stop you from going into the pit where those preaching another gospel that is no gospel are destined for.
 
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I know my Heavenly Father's Word very... well, thank you!

If you want to side with charlatans who steal people's money then go to, I won't stop you from going into the pit where those preaching another gospel that is no gospel are destined for.

If you God's word,
Then you'll know how wrong the man in that videology is.
Just because there are some people who are wrong about getting money, they have nothing to do with the
W O F teachings. (Which is the word of God ).

So I doubt if you know God's word.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

I know my Heavenly Father's Word very... well, thank you!

If you want to side with charlatans who steal people's money then go to, I won't stop you from going into the pit where those preaching another gospel that is no gospel are destined for.

If you God's word,
Then you'll know how wrong the man in that videology is.
Just because there are some people who are wrong about getting money, they have nothing to do with the
W O F teachings.
(Which is the word of God ).

So I doubt if you know God's word.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

When the YouTube muggers get the ole searchlight redirected back at them the roaches scatter.

Their main guru,Ole Mr Hannegaff, plagiarized a book,and embezzled funds.

Funny how that works.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

When the YouTube muggers get the ole searchlight redirected back at them the roaches scatter.

Their main guru,Ole Mr Hannegaff, plagiarized a book,and embezzled funds.

Funny how that works.
Nothing wrong with exposing that.