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The old testament says hell is utter destruction.
It also says it's the Womb...



Jesus said "Where the worm never die"
Yep, it's called DNA... aka... the "Worm".

And it lives on after death.


Are dead souls eaten or absorbed back into reusable energy?
You could say that...

Job 1:21
"And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD"


Because it's the end of the line, the garbage heap...
Close.

But God does not waste...


What comes around, goes around...

Ecclesiastes 1:7
"All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again"



Round and round she goes... where she stops?

Jesus knows.

Only He can break the Cycle.

Get us out of the 'loop' so to speak.


Ecclesiastes 5:15
"As he came forth of his mother's womb, naked shall he return to go as he came, and shall take nothing of his labour, which he may carry away in his hand"


Oops!

You weren't supposed to read that.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

Magenta

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#42
God can destroy souls.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.


What do you think a soul is? Man became a living soul when?
When God breathed the breath of life into his physical being.

It is the saved who put on the incorruptible and immortality.
Not of ourselves but through our faith in Jesus Christ Who has
overcome death. He alone holds the keys to life.

People erroneously assume the soul to be immortal.

Life is found only in Jesus Christ.

The unsaved pass into the second death.
That is explicitly stated in Scripture.

There is no reason why not to accept the Scriptures at their Word on this.
The soul that remains in a state of unbelief at the end of the age perishes.
 
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#43
If you are, this thread is for you.

Firstly let me say that whats known about hell is an incomplete concept, Jesus used very figurative language to explain hell. But I take the hint, you don't want to end up there.

Why?

Because it's the end of the line, the garbage heap where damaged souls are disassembled. If you end up there, your not going to be a humane soul, more like an empty dark vessel.

A corrupted soul may see itself as still human (A good human) but the assembly of God won't.

James said hell was deep blackness, where all the lights go out.

The old testament says hell is utter destruction.

Jesus said "Where the worm never die"

Are dead souls eaten or absorbed back into reusable energy?

Amen.
Happily I dont worry about hell. But I worry when people come in and frighten other people to fear it
I'll leave you to sis demi and others
 

maxwel

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Ghostmutt says he's not worried about hell.

But his profile says he's not a Christian.


I think a little fear of hell would do him some good.
 
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Magenta
You have it spot on. So many people believe you live on after the second death its good to see those like you who have understanding and can spread the truth.
 

Ahwatukee

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Magenta
You have it spot on. So many people believe you live on after the second death its good to see those like you who have understanding and can spread the truth.
Tell me buddyt, if scripture states that those who worship the beast, his image and receive his mark, that the smoke of their torment will rise up forever and ever. And they will have no rest day or night. How can a person experience not having any rest day or night unless they are existing to experience it?

The word torment above is defined as "torture," which would require the one in torment to be conscious and existing.

When all scripture is taken into account, the truth is that everyone who comes into the world exists forever. Life and death are both states of conscious existence. Death is defined as existing in separation from God in punishment in the lake of fire. While life is conscious existence in the joyful presence of God. Consider the following:

"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

The word "aionios" can mean a cycle of time, an age or having no beginning or ending, such as God who lives forever and ever, (aion and aion). In the verse above, the word "aionios" translated as "eternal" is used for both the righteous and the wicked. Therefore, since eternal life is defined as on-going, conscious existence in the presence of God, then eternal punishment must mean on-going, conscious existence in separation from God.

Magenta errs in this because she takes the word "destruction" which is one of the translated words describing "apollumi" and applies a different meaning than the Greek word. The word "apollumi" does not imply annihilation or extinction, but ruination, complete loss of well being.

I have to say that, being immediately burned up in the lake of fire is not punishment for sin against God. It would be more of an escape. In fact, the word "punishment" carries the idea of on-going torment.

Definition: chastisement, punishment, torment, perhaps with the idea of deprivation. Note: one would have to be existing in order to experience chastisement, punishment or torment.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 2851 kólasis (from kolaphos, "a buffeting, a blow") – properly, punishment that "fits" (matches) the one punished (R. Trench); torment from living in the dread of upcoming judgment from shirking one's duty

 
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pottersclay

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So you keep uplifting aspects of life between you and God, other than that you join this site today and bring up consequences of unfaithfulness that don't apply to Christians. That's like taking your pants off AFTER your bowel movement -- pathetic.
Oh......That's the trick...ooops....Kinda have to change my routine:D
 

Demi777

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Ok I'm done with this Christian forum, I shake the dust off my feet.​


Good so thats taken care of.
God bless you all

 
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It also says it's the Womb...





Yep, it's called DNA... aka... the "Worm".

And it lives on after death.




You could say that...

Job 1:21
"And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD"




Close.

But God does not waste...


What comes around, goes around...

Ecclesiastes 1:7
"All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again"



Round and round she goes... where she stops?

Jesus knows.

Only He can break the Cycle.

Get us out of the 'loop' so to speak.


Ecclesiastes 5:15
"As he came forth of his mother's womb, naked shall he return to go as he came, and shall take nothing of his labour, which he may carry away in his hand"


Oops!

You weren't supposed to read that.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

LOL! some of your pictures are awesome
 

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If you are, this thread is for you.

Firstly let me say that whats known about hell is an incomplete concept, Jesus used very figurative language to explain hell. But I take the hint, you don't want to end up there.

Why?

Because it's the end of the line, the garbage heap where damaged souls are disassembled. If you end up there, your not going to be a humane soul, more like an empty dark vessel.

A corrupted soul may see itself as still human (A good human) but the assembly of God won't.

James said hell was deep blackness, where all the lights go out.

The old testament says hell is utter destruction.

Jesus said "Where the worm never die"

Are dead souls eaten or absorbed back into reusable energy?

Reusable Energy? I think hell is a actual place of torment...eternal
 

Jruiz

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The lost perish and are no more. They go to their death. Hell is the grave.

Matt 7:13

Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad
that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.


Matthew 10:28
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul;
but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Luke 13:3
I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.
Here, the Greek word for perish is apoleisthe, which
means to utterly destroy, kill, slay, demolish, make void.


Jesus says that the end for the unrighteous will be the same as for those
in the days of Noah (Luke 17:27),
"the flood came and
destroyed them all"
(not tortured). And it will be the same as for Sodom (verse 29)
"destroyed them" (not tortured).


John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

So a person either receives eternal life, or they perish. Nothing about eternal torment there.

John 5:24, Jesus said
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me
has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."


Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Note: Death, not eternal torment.

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him,
for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

Destroy, not torture alive forever.

Galations 6:8
For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption
(phthoran), but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

phthoran: From phtheiro; decay, i.e. Ruin (spontaneous or inflicted, literally or figuratively) -- corruption, destroy, perish. The one who sows to his own flesh reaps destruction, not eternal living torment.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from
the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

Destruction, not eternal living torment. The greek word is olethron: destruction.
From a primary ollumi (to destroy; a prolonged form); ruination, i.e. Death, punishment -- destruction.

Hebrews 10:39
But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction,
but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.


James 1:15b
and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

James 4:12a
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy;

2 Peter 3:7
But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved
for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.


2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient
toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

All ungodly men will perish unless they repent.

1 John 5:12
He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
If you are not alive you cannot be tormented!

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.

Revelation 2:11b
He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.
The living and the dead will be judged on the last day. Those in Christ will not experience the second death. Those not in Christ will experience a second death. This second death is their destruction.

Revelation 17:8
The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction.

Revelation 20:14-15
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
John interprets this for us: the lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name is not in the book of life, he experiences the second death. This is exactly what it says, death.

Revelation 21:8
“But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
They will undergo the second death, which means they are dead.

After the first sin, what was the promised consequence? God said that it was death. God didn't tell them that they would be given eternal life being tormented in hell. If eternal torture in hell is the consequence, it is jarringly missing from any statement by God to Adam and Eve. God even barred Adam and Eve from the garden to prevent them eating from the tree of life and living forever in their state of sin. Paul explains this: Romans 6:23, The wages of sin is death. This is obvious, Paul said what the wages of sin is and it is not to be burned alive forever after you are dead.

Ezekiel 18:4
The soul who sins will die.

Psalm 1:4-6
Not so the wicked!
They are like chaff
that the wind blows away.
Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.


Psalm 9:5
You have rebuked the nations and destroyed the wicked;
you have blotted out their name for ever and ever.

Psalm 9:6
even the memory of them has perished.

Psalm 34:16
but the face of the LORD is against those who do evil,
to blot out their name from the earth.

Psalm 37:9
For those who are evil will be destroyed,

Psalm 37:20
But the wicked will perish:

Psalm 37:22
those he curses will be destroyed

Psalm 37:28b
Wrongdoers will be completely destroyed

Psalm 37:34
when the wicked are destroyed, you will see it.

Psalm 37:38
But all sinners will be destroyed;
there will be no future for the wicked.

Ecclesiastes 9:5
the dead know nothing

Following the resurrection and judgement of all is when the mortal put on the
immortal, not before. Then too shall the corruptible put on the incorruptible.
See 1 Corinthians 15:54~ Death will be swallowed up in victory.

In fact, Jesus Christ has already overcome death.
Yout forgot a couple verses...
Matthew 25:41Verse Concepts

"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the ETERNAL FIRE which has been prepared for the DEVIL and hisANGELS;
Revelation 20:10
Verse Concepts

And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER.
 

Magenta

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Magenta
You have it spot on. So many people believe you live on after the second death its good to see those like you who have understanding and can spread the truth.
Thank you Buddy :)

It puzzles me that people cannot view death as punishment. Obviously
according to them, our court systems have it all wrong and so does God!

I believe that life is a gift. To remain dead forever is obviously an everlasting
punishment.
Even the oldest Bible book attests to the fact that the wicked
return to the grave following the day of wrath (otherwise known as judgement).

Job 21:30-32 (KJV)

That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to
the day of wrath.
Who shall declare his way to his face? and who shall repay him what
he hath done?
Yet shall he be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the tomb.

Ahwatuckee refuses to take Scripture at face value, even as he continually says,

"The scripture is right in front of your eyes above and you
don't believe what you are reading, and that because you
ignore what it literally says. You can't discern from what
is literal and what is symbolic."


He claims I interpret words wrong when the words plainly say DESTROY, PERISH,
DEATH; then he assigns a different meaning to them.
His intellectual dissonance is
so great that he can
turn a loving, just, and merciful God into a sadistic monster,
and not blink an eye!


Scripture PLAINLY states that the mortal (that applies to every human who has
ever lived)
puts on the
immortal (that refers only to those who are found in Christ
Jesus) at
the end of the age. Nowhere does Scripture state that the soul of man
lives forever, that those who are not found in Christ survive in order to be tortured
ever after.
It is a fanciful fabrication straight from the pit of hell. In fact, God prevented
Adam and Eve from eating from the Tree of life after they sinned, because He did not
want them to live forever in their state of sin. God does not change.

1 Cor 15:54
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."


God has said from
the beginning, in Genesis, before man sinned, that DEATH
would be the consequence.
of sin. I believe what God says, and I am glad you do, too :)

1 Tim 6:15-16 plainly states that only God has immortality, and the rest
of Scriptures
make plain that it is by faith alone in Christ alone that one
attains to life ever after.
That means that Scripture means what it says:
those not in Christ will pass into the second death, as is explicitly stated.
They shall be utterly destroyed, and pass into the non-being of nothingness.
The dead know nothing.
Scripture plainly states that also.

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy.

Luke 19:27 Those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king
over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.

God even explicitly says that the idea of burning people never entered
His mind. He sees it as wickedness, and yet people promote it.


One of the most famous, oft' quoted Scriptures states that God so loved
the world that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish... PERISH.

Word number 622 in Strong's concordance.

apollumi: to destroy, destroy utterly
Original Word: ἀπόλλυμι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: apollumi
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol'-loo-mee)
Short Definition: I destroy, lose, am perishing
Definition: (a) I kill, destroy, (b) I lose, mid: I am perishing (the resultant death being viewed as certain).
HELPS Word-studies
622 apóllymi (from 575 /apó, "away from," which intensifies ollymi, "to destroy") – properly, fully destroy, cutting off entirely (note the force of the prefix, 575 /apó).

Strong's Greek: 622. ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi) -- to destroy, destroy utterly

622 /apóllymi ("violently/completely perish") implies permanent (absolute) destruction, i.e. to cancel out (remove); "to die, with the implication of ruin and destruction" (L & N, 1, 23.106); cause to be lost (utterly perish) by experiencing a miserable end.

Word Origin
from
apo and same as olethros
Definition
to destroy, destroy utterly

God is love. Thank you, God, for your love for us is so great, that
You made a way for us to live with You forever, through the propitiatory
sacrifice of Your precious Son on the cross out of His great love for us.

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Thank you Buddy :)

It puzzles me that people cannot view death as punishment. Obviously
according to them, our court systems have it all wrong and so does God!

I believe that life is a gift. To remain dead forever is obviously an everlasting
punishment.
Even the oldest Bible book attests to the fact that the wicked
return to the grave following the day of wrath (otherwise known as judgement).

Job 21:30-32 (KJV)

That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to
the day of wrath.
Who shall declare his way to his face? and who shall repay him what
he hath done?
Yet shall he be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the tomb.

Ahwatuckee refuses to take Scripture at face value, even as he continually says,

"The scripture is right in front of your eyes above and you
don't believe what you are reading, and that because you
ignore what it literally says. You can't discern from what
is literal and what is symbolic."


He claims I interpret words wrong when the words plainly say DESTROY, PERISH,
DEATH; then he assigns a different meaning to them.
His intellectual dissonance is
so great that he can
turn a loving, just, and merciful God into a sadistic monster,
and not blink an eye!


Scripture PLAINLY states that the mortal (that applies to every human who has
ever lived)
puts on the
immortal (that refers only to those who are found in Christ
Jesus) at
the end of the age. Nowhere does Scripture state that the soul of man
lives forever, that those who are not found in Christ survive in order to be tortured
ever after.
It is a fanciful fabrication straight from the pit of hell. In fact, God prevented
Adam and Eve from eating from the Tree of life after they sinned, because He did not
want them to live forever in their state of sin. God does not change.

1 Cor 15:54
When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."


God has said from
the beginning, in Genesis, before man sinned, that DEATH
would be the consequence.
of sin. I believe what God says, and I am glad you do, too :)

1 Tim 6:15-16 plainly states that only God has immortality, and the rest
of Scriptures
make plain that it is by faith alone in Christ alone that one
attains to life ever after.
That means that Scripture means what it says:
those not in Christ will pass into the second death, as is explicitly stated.
They shall be utterly destroyed, and pass into the non-being of nothingness.
The dead know nothing.
Scripture plainly states that also.

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy.

Luke 19:27 Those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king
over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.

God even explicitly says that the idea of burning people never entered
His mind. He sees it as wickedness, and yet people promote it.


One of the most famous, oft' quoted Scriptures states that God so loved
the world that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish... PERISH.

Word number 622 in Strong's concordance.

apollumi: to destroy, destroy utterly
Original Word: ἀπόλλυμι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: apollumi
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol'-loo-mee)
Short Definition: I destroy, lose, am perishing
Definition: (a) I kill, destroy, (b) I lose, mid: I am perishing (the resultant death being viewed as certain).
HELPS Word-studies
622 apóllymi (from 575 /apó, "away from," which intensifies ollymi, "to destroy") – properly, fully destroy, cutting off entirely (note the force of the prefix, 575 /apó).

Strong's Greek: 622. ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi) -- to destroy, destroy utterly

622 /apóllymi ("violently/completely perish") implies permanent (absolute) destruction, i.e. to cancel out (remove); "to die, with the implication of ruin and destruction" (L & N, 1, 23.106); cause to be lost (utterly perish) by experiencing a miserable end.

Word Origin
from
apo and same as olethros
Definition
to destroy, destroy utterly

God is love. Thank you, God, for your love for us is so great, that
You made a way for us to live with You forever, through the propitiatory
sacrifice of Your precious Son on the cross out of His great love for us.

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skimming over this thread left me like


 

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The Bible does frequently use the image of eternal fire in order to represent God's anger with sin, which will result in the total destruction of the sinner in the grave. Sodom was punished with "eternal fire" (Jude v. 7), i.e. it was totally destroyed due to the wickedness of the inhabitants. Today that city is in ruins, submerged beneath the waters of the Dead Sea; in no way is it now on fire, which is necessary if we are to understand 'eternal fire' literally. Likewise Jerusalem was threatened with the eternal fire of God's anger, due to the sins of Israel: "Then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched" (Jer. 17:27). Jerusalem being the prophesied capital of the future Kingdom (Is. 2:2-4; Ps. 48:2), God did not mean us to read this literally. The great houses of Jerusalem were burnt down with fire (2 Kings 25:9), but that fire did not continue eternally.

Similarly, God punished the land of Idumea with fire that would "not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste...the owl and the raven shall dwell in it...thorns shall come up in her palaces" (Is. 34:9-15). Seeing that animals and plants were to exist in the ruined land of Idumea, the language of eternal fire must refer to God's anger and His total destruction of the place, rather than being taken literally.

The Hebrew and Greek phrases which are translated "for ever" mean strictly, "for the age". Sometimes this refers to literal infinity, for example the age of the kingdom, but not always. Ez. 32:14,15 is an example: "The forts and towers shall be dens for ever...until the spirit be poured upon us". This is one way of understanding the 'eternity' of 'eternal fire'.

Time and again God's anger with the sins of Jerusalem and Israel is likened to fire: "Mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place (Jerusalem)...it shall burn, and shall not be quenched" (Jer. 7:20; other examples include Lam. 4:11 and 2 Kings 22:17).

Fire is also associated with God's judgment of sin, especially at the return of Christ: "For, behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up" (Mal. 4:1). When stubble, or even a human body, is burnt by fire, it returns to dust.

Malachi 4:3
Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under
the soles of your feet on the day when I act," says the LORD Almighty.


It should be noted that "hell" is "cast into the lake of fire" (Rev. 20:14). This indicates that hell is not the same as "the lake of fire"; this represents complete destruction. In the symbolic manner of the book of Revelation, we are being told that the grave is to be totally destroyed, because at the end of the Millennium there will be no more death.
Bible Basics Study 4.9 - Hell
 
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Magenta, these posts were phenomenal!
That took you some time to put together and post, and I feel like I should pay you, they were so good!
Thanks. :)
 
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I really want to believe that the lost simply cease to exist, but what about the story that Jesus told of the man who died and then went into hell and was suffering in flames. Now I realize that hell is not the lake of fire and that hell will eventually be destroyed.
 
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I really want to believe that the lost simply cease to exist, but what about the story that Jesus told of the man who died and then went into hell and was suffering in flames. Now I realize that hell is not the lake of fire and that hell will eventually be destroyed.
Revelation 20:10 - And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

According to the scriptures there's no such thing as annihilation considering even Satan will be tormented forever
 

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Revelation 20:10 - And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

According to the scriptures there's no such thing as annihilation considering even Satan will be tormented forever
According to Scripture, the wages of sin is death, explicitly stated in a multiplicity of ways right from the beginning of the good book, before Adam and Eve even sinned! Also according to Scripture, angels and men are altogether different. Perhaps you had not noticed that? I wonder how it escaped your attention. And, according to Scripture, life ever after is attained only by faith in the work of Jesus upon the cross, where out of His great love for us, He poured out His righteous blood unto death to pay the penalty for sin, that we might have a life more abundant. Now you can say,, oh but the dead are given life also so that God can torment and torture them, but Scripture explicitly says that they pass into the second death.
 

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Magenta, these posts were phenomenal!
That took you some time to put together and post, and I feel like I should pay you, they were so good!
Thanks. :)
I am grateful for your gratitude, dear sister :)
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