Wow!

[AgeofKnowledge]

Islam has a stated mission of taking over the entire world for Allah in its teachings. Many religions express this as a goal in their writings. Christians seek the same thing but for God's spiritual kingdom not an earthly one. It's quite common for religions to require an oath to be accepted. So where is the emperical evidence showing that a few Pharisees control the world because of a Noahide Pledge?

we could have gotten to that pretty quickly but for the stormfront thing.
find my thread called The Noahide Pledge...

spend some time on it.

zone.

Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem. she will rule the world...for a short space.

 

[Strangelove]

Islam has a stated mission of taking over the entire world for Allah in its teachings. Many religions express this as a goal in their writings. Christians seek the same thing but for God's spiritual kingdom not an earthly one. It's quite common for religions to require an oath to be accepted. So where is the emperical evidence showing that a few Pharisees control the world because of a Noahide Pledge?

Because its the only religious world dominating (and EXECUTING) law that is recognised and lauded over by US public law and being pushed by the UN to be accepted by its member states.

Do you see Sharia law being pushed by the UN?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It does not matter whether or not you accept Britannica's definition for anti-Semitism anti-Semitism -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia as it relates to my point. You can argue with Britannica all day long about their definition and that's fine as long as you don't let your own bias against their definition become a red herring in our discussion regarding the point I made which was clearly stated.

Now Zone, I'm well aware of the democide caused by state atheists in the 20th century. J. R. Rummel is a leading professor on the subject (coining the word) and has compiled impressive statistics regarding the topic.

Marxism was opposed to religion and anti-Semitism because Karl Marx was opposed to them. He taught a philosophy of strict state atheism and equality for all workers whatever their ethnicity. He disliked Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc... in fact ALL religion and spoke often about how Judaism had turned the Jews into "hucksters" and how religion was an "opiate" that interferred with worker production. Marx sought to level the playing field of all ethnic differences within the context of state atheism. It's as simple as that. There's nothing odd about it.

The Old Bolsheviks believed Marx in this and sought to implement his philosophy. The Jews were terribly persecuted in the Soviet Union because they refused to recant Judaism. ALL religious people were persecuted in the Soviet Union who refused to recant. So even though many of the Old Bolsheviks were Jewish who believed in Marxism and his all workers are to be equal philosophy, they worked to rid the Soviet Union of Judaism and Zionism because these were anathema to the Marxist vision of a state atheistic worker utopia.

But they themselves ended up being liquidated by Joseph Stalin in the purges of the 1930s. Toward the end of the 1940's all of the Jewish organizations had been liquidated and only a few token synagogues remained (which were under KGB survelliance). This bloodletting was also in line with Marxist philsophy. ""My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism." -Karl Marx.

If there was an underlying Jewish conspiracy to unseat non-Jews in the old Soviet Union and create a talmudic Pharisitical utopia: it failed miserably. In fact, the exact opposite occurred. The communists attempted to follow Marx's philosophy of leveling the playing field of all ethnic differences within the context of state atheism but the unregenerate human condition of leaders who sought personal power emerged and his goals were corrupted. It's as simple as that and there's nothing odd about it.

Now dispensationalism ranges greatly within Christiandom. For example, noting that there is a difference between the Old Covenant God had with the nation of Israel and the New Covenant Christians are under is an accurate statement. But you are speaking of strict dispensationalist strains (of which there are many today and they counteract each other in many cases and certainly do not all teach the same thing) which began with Darby though I have yet to fathom what you're driving at with your comments below regarding some strain of strict dispensationalism. You'll have to explain it further so I can understand it though I understand you're saying there's an organization of Pharisitical Jews that teach Jesus was a false prophet and they are still looking for the Messiah right?

this would only be so much history to me, except DISPENSATIONAL CHRISTIANS incredibly believe the religion they love and support as Moses and the prophets is a DESPICABLE ABOMINATION FROM BABYLON that is ANTICHRIST AT ITS VERY CORE:




The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":

1. He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2. He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3. He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

Who Was Jesus?

click on the link and look around at THE NOAHIDE LAWS...that's what's coming for you and me.

 

[Strangelove]

It does not matter whether or not you accept Britannica's definition for anti-Semitism anti-Semitism -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia as it relates to my point. You can argue with Britannica all day long about their definition and that's fine as long as you don't let your own bias against their definition become a red herring in our discussion regarding the point I made which was clearly stated.

Now Zone, I'm well aware of the democide caused by state atheists in the 20th century. J. R. Rummel is a leading professor on the subject (coining the word) and has compiled impressive statistics regarding the topic.

Marxism was opposed to religion and anti-Semitism because Karl Marx was opposed to them. He taught a philosophy of strict state atheism and equality for all workers whatever their ethnicity. He disliked Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc... in fact ALL religion and spoke often about how Judaism had turned the Jews into "hucksters" and how religion was an "opiate" that interferred with worker production. Marx sought to level the playing field of all ethnic differences within the context of state atheism. It's as simple as that. There's nothing odd about it.

The Old Bolsheviks believed Marx in this and sought to implement his philosophy. The Jews were terribly persecuted in the Soviet Union because they refused to recant Judaism. ALL religious people were persecuted in the Soviet Union who refused to recant. So even though many of the Old Bolsheviks were Jewish who believed in Marxism and his all workers are to be equal philosophy, they worked to rid the Soviet Union of Judaism and Zionism because these were anathema to the Marxist vision of a state atheistic worker utopia.

But they themselves ended up being liquidated by Joseph Stalin in the purges of the 1930s. Toward the end of the 1940's all of the Jewish organizations had been liquidated and only a few token synagogues remained (which were under KGB survelliance). This bloodletting was also in line with Marxist philsophy. ""My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism." -Karl Marx.

If there was an underlying Jewish conspiracy to unseat non-Jews in the old Soviet Union and create a talmudic Pharisitical utopia: it failed miserably. In fact, the exact opposite occurred. The communists attempted to follow Marx's philosophy of leveling the playing field of all ethnic differences within the context of state atheism but the unregenerate human condition of leaders who sought personal power emerged and his goals were corrupted. It's as simple as that and there's nothing odd about it.

What was Russia ruled by BEFORE the communist Revolution....?...?...?

What kind of leadership?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Is this the conpiracy theory you advocate? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy) within the overall satanic talmudic Pharisitical global domination conspiracy theory?

And please provide emperical evidence showing that Pharisitical Jews are executing law over the U.S. Constitution within the United States and that they control the UN.

Please provide the above bolded request and don't just fall into a rant about what I'm going to say next as an escape tactic which is that the United States can leave the UN anytime we want, we do have a veto, and both the Constitution and Supreme Court rulings are clear that no treaty (which Congress can repeal btw), executive decision, resolution, etc... overrides or amends our Constitution.

In simpler terms: No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. No question! (source: - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17. ).

Because its the only religious world dominating (and EXECUTING) law that is recognised and lauded over by US public law and being pushed by the UN to be accepted by its member states.

Do you see Sharia law being pushed by the UN?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I'll wait for zone to answer thank you. Her point was that a secret Jewish conspiracy sought to use Marxist revolution to destroy Christianity and take over the world. Well, that's nonsense as I explained for the reasons I shared. But I'd rather talk to her about that than read your ongoing one liners and questions you rely on because you apparently have no emperical evidence to prove your fantastic assertions.

What was Russia ruled by BEFORE the communist Revolution....?...?...?

What kind of leadership?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Yes. One of many examples is the U.N. resolution called 'Combating Defamation of Religions.' I'm pretty sure the Pharisitical Talmudic Jews that control the UN aren't too happy about that one as in nations following Islam, the present practice is to use such laws to protect Islam and attack religious minorities such as Jews who hold to Pharisitical Judaism, for example, with penalties up to and including execution. Whey would they press for something that kills themsleves?

Do you see Sharia law being pushed by the UN?

 

[Strangelove]

Is this the conpiracy theory you advocate? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wor...er_(conspiracy) within the overall satanic talmudic Pharisitical global domination conspiracy theory?

Dead end link.

And please provide emperical evidence showing that Pharisitical Jews are executing law over the U.S. Constitution within the United States and that they control the UN.

May claim was:

"recognised and lauded over by US public law and being pushed by the UN to be accepted by its member states."

Do you want empirical evidence of that?

Please provide the above bolded request and don't just fall into a rant about what I'm going to say next as an escape tactic which is that the United States can leave the UN anytime we want, we do have a veto, and both the Constitution and Supreme Court rulings are clear that no treaty (which Congress can repeal btw), executive decision, resolution, etc... overrides or amends our Constitution.

In simpler terms: No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. No question! (source: - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17. ).

Doesnt matter if the U.S. leaves the U.N. (Like they ever would!)

The Noahide Laws are recognized and promoted by US PUBLIC LAW!

 

[Strangelove]

I'll wait for zone to answer thank you. Her point was that a secret Jewish conspiracy sought to use Marxist revolution to destroy Christianity and take over the world. Well, that's nonsense as I explained for the reasons I shared. But I'd rather talk to her about that than read your ongoing one liners and questions you rely on because you apparently have no emperical evidence to prove your fantastic assertions.

Oh diddums AOK.

Why wont you answer the simple question?

Because you know it proves that communism destroyed the Christian monarchy?

And no need for multiple paragraphs of WAFFLE!

 

[Strangelove]

“The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in organization and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As for anyone who does not know that the Bolshevist movement in Russia is Jewish, I can only say that he must be a man who is taken in by the suppression of our deplorable press.”

- Renowned historian, Hilaire Belloc in G. K.’s Weekly Feb 4th 1937

 

[Strangelove]

Yes. One of many examples is the U.N. resolution called 'Combating Defamation of Religions.' I'm pretty sure the Pharisitical Talmudic Jews that control the UN aren't too happy about that one as in nations following Islam, the present practice is to use such laws to protect Islam and attack religious minorities such as Jews who hold to Pharisitical Judaism, for example, with penalties up to and including execution. Whey would they press for something that kills themsleves?

Lolz...a liberal ecumenical standard token effort.

Where is sharia law specifically mentioned?

Ya really pro Islamic:

Quote~

[FONT=&quot]"DAVID LITTMAN, of World Union for Progressive Judaism, reminded the Commission of the neglected issue of the modern exodus of Jews from Middle East countries since the 1940s, that forgotten million who had suffered the habitual religious cleansing from Arab countries. They and their progeny now numbered 3 million, of whom 2.5 million made up more than 50 per cent of Israel's Jewish population of over 5 million. It was an historical fact that the tragedy of the Arab refugees of mandated Palestine occurred because of the refusal of the Arab League and the Palestinian leadership to accept international legality in 1947, and their unashamed aim of eliminating the nascent State of Israel. It was a policy maintained for 40 years, which had been reactivated by some States, and those Islamist groups like Hamas. On the other hand, Jewish refugees from Arab countries -- far from the war zones -- were victimized because of their religion."
[/FONT]

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Yes I do want emperical evidence of that and also that "The Noahide Laws are recognized and promoted by US PUBLIC LAW".

It's like pulling teeth to get anything other than an innuendo, question, or snarky comment out of you.

By the way, I know you said you "don't have to clarify SQUAT!" but are your views along the lines of Christian Identity/British Israelism?

Dead end link.

May claim was:

"recognised and lauded over by US public law and being pushed by the UN to be accepted by its member states."

Do you want empirical evidence of that?

Doesnt matter if the U.S. leaves the U.N. (Like they ever would!)

The Noahide Laws are recognized and promoted by US PUBLIC LAW!

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It destroyed an anti-Marxist regime which is the point. If it has been an Islamic monarchy like Saudi Arabia, the Marxists would have sought to destroy it.

Because you know it proves that communism destroyed the Christian monarchy?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Yes and for the reasons I stated not the ones you did. If there was a secret Pharisitical Talmudic conspiracy, they sure did a good job of wiping themselves out since almost none remained whatsoever in the Soviet Union by the fall of the Soviet Union.

“The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in organization and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As for anyone who does not know that the Bolshevist movement in Russia is Jewish, I can only say that he must be a man who is taken in by the suppression of our deplorable press.”

- Renowned historian, Hilaire Belloc in G. K.’s Weekly Feb 4th 1937

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It's not. The word religion is used. But Israel is surrounded by Islamic countries and surely the Pharisitical Talmudic Jews who control the UN would know all of this and seek to stop something that would threaten Pharisitical Jews in Muslim countries (as well as the state of Israel).

It's no secret that once Israel became a nation again that Jews in the area migrated to it. So what? If you were an American living in exile and America suddenly became a nation promising a much better life in line with your beliefs, you'd migrate to it too.

Lolz...a liberal ecumenical standard token effort.

Where is sharia law specifically mentioned?

Ya really pro Islamic:

Quote~

[FONT=&quot]"DAVID LITTMAN, of World Union for Progressive Judaism, reminded the Commission of the neglected issue of the modern exodus of Jews from Middle East countries since the 1940s, that forgotten million who had suffered the habitual religious cleansing from Arab countries. They and their progeny now numbered 3 million, of whom 2.5 million made up more than 50 per cent of Israel's Jewish population of over 5 million. It was an historical fact that the tragedy of the Arab refugees of mandated Palestine occurred because of the refusal of the Arab League and the Palestinian leadership to accept international legality in 1947, and their unashamed aim of eliminating the nascent State of Israel. It was a policy maintained for 40 years, which had been reactivated by some States, and those Islamist groups like Hamas. On the other hand, Jewish refugees from Arab countries -- far from the war zones -- were victimized because of their religion."[/FONT]

 

[Muskokaman]

Hey AOK do you subscribe to marxism?
Whats your opinion on talmudic pharisism?
Do you see the Bolshevik revolution as good or bad?
Do you believe that there is a conspiracy afoot today to discredit and or abolish the religous state regardless of denomination?

 

[Strangelove]

Yes I do want emperical evidence of that and also that "The Noahide Laws are recognized and promoted by US PUBLIC LAW".

It's like pulling teeth to get anything other than an innuendo, question, or snarky comment out of you.

WDC MEDIA NEWS
Christian News and Media Agency

UN NGO Reps Pledge to Follow Noahide Laws

By David Yisraeli

2011-01-04 -- WDC Media News --
(Religion)

24 Tevet 5771 (31.12.2010) --A conference advocating for the acceptance and adherence to the Noahide Laws was held on December 22, 2010.

The event's title was “Unity, Youth and World Peace”. Presenters included Mr. Joop Theunissen from the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and Rabbi Yakov D. Cohen of the Institute of Noahide Code, who opened and moderated the conference.

More than 90 people attended this important event, many of whom expressed an interest in continuing this work.

Mr Joop Theunissen Deputy Chief of the NGO branch of ECOSOC signed a proclamation pledging to keep the Laws of Noah.

"Their observance is required, so that the vision of the United Nations – to have a settled and civilized world, in which economic justice and righteousness will prevail - can be fulfilled, with all of us working together in unison."

Full Story - UN NGO Reps Pledge to Follow Noahide Laws


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APPENDIX ONE
105 STAT. 44 PUBLIC LAW 102-14-MAR. 20,1991

Public Law 102-14
102d Congress
Joint Resolution

Mar. 20. 1991
[H.J Res 104] To designate March 26. 1991, as "Education Day. U. S. A."

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our, great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without thes ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991:

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, "the rebbe", this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of "education and giving", the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws: and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lutbavitch movement. is designated as "Education Day. U.S.A.". The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

PUBLIC LAW 102-14-MAR. 20,1991 105 STAT. 45

Approved March 20, 1991

LEGISLATIVE HISTORY-H.J Res 104
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. Vol 137. (1991)
Mar 5. considered and passed House
Mar 7. considered and passed Senate
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By the way, I know you said you "don't have to clarify SQUAT!" but are your views along the lines of Christian Identity/British Israelism?

Are your views along the lines of the KKK?

Just want to clarify.

 

[Strangelove]

It destroyed an anti-Marxist regime which is the point. If it has been an Islamic monarchy like Saudi Arabia, the Marxists would have sought to destroy it.

Was it a CHRISTIAN monarchy?

Thats the point. And you know it FULL WELL.

 

[Strangelove]

Yes and for the reasons I stated not the ones you did. If there was a secret Pharisitical Talmudic conspiracy, they sure did a good job of wiping themselves out since almost none remained whatsoever in the Soviet Union by the fall of the Soviet Union.

Huh? Thats a reply to the quote by Hilaire Belloc?

Newsflash toughguy.....

WW2 was organized by the pharisees too! And there was a holocaust of "jews"!

Yes thats right...we believe there is a TINY PHARISAIC cabal in the conspiracy not **shock/horror** ALL JEWS. Notwithstanding your hopes to the contrary.

 

[Strangelove]

It's not. The word religion is used. But Israel is surrounded by Islamic countries and surely the Pharisitical Talmudic Jews who control the UN would know all of this and seek to stop something that would threaten Pharisitical Jews in Muslim countries (as well as the state of Israel).

It's no secret that once Israel became a nation again that Jews in the area migrated to it. So what? If you were an American living in exile and America suddenly became a nation promising a much better life in line with your beliefs, you'd migrate to it too.

Right so now you admit that sharia law isnt promoted by the UN. Only Noahide law is. Good.

And yes the pharisaic Rabbinical minority has no problem endangering and even killing "jews" to further the agenda.