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AgeofKnowledge

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The Bible is one of my primary credible sources. Why can't I get the truth from the Bible?

AOG you will never get the truth from your credible sources
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I sure didn't get it from him. Despite his many promises to provide it, he never has. I'm still waiting...

So thats where you got it from Ok Ok I'm seeing here!
 
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The Bible is one of my primary credible sources. Why can't I get the truth from the Bible?

You did...the synagogue of satan...those that say they are jews and are not
 
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Nope i seen right away to keep some distance...was i wrong?
Well that's the part about me I just love (not narcicism either) is that I am very open minded I wish to learn and when we close our ears and eyes we can't learn that much now can we/
I thought, after watching all 7 of the vids on you tube the old monk had some very wise advice in many areas. Now I don't claim Orthodoxy as my faith so I have a problem with praying to a saint but in the mans words and the very pious life he now lives I am sure there is more to this spiritual thing than I first thought and he is very well educated and the only monk at his monastery that speaks English
I know about charismatics and stuff (not my cup of tea) but this guy is as far from a charismatic as you can get. He mentions about the pride of western churches and if one stands back it is easily seen.
Every day on here there are debates many of which are fueled only by pride and arrogance because someone will not accept anothers viewpoint be it Protestant vs Catholic or what have you I found his approach to spiritualism very rooted in Christ and as I said he is well read was a professor before monkhood and an atheist to boot and now he lives in egypt as a monk watch it you may see something you like!

Selah
 
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I'm going to ask the questions for awhile strangelove. You've asked plenty and received plenty of answers and citations and completely failed to keep your word in providing the emperical evidence proving your position so:

1. What are the names of the Pharisitical Talmudic Jews who control the world?
Why do you wanna make this about individuals? We wrestle against principalities.

What good would it do if I rattled off a whole bunch of names to you?

2. Where is the emperical evidence you promised on every point in this thread that you never provided?

But you won't provide this information because you don't have it. You never had it. You're just a bag of hot wind blowing nonsense around and playing games with fantastic conspiracy theories aren't you? Nod your head yes.
You are a bit quiet on the evidence provided on noahide laws.

You asked for the evidence and I gave it to you.....so...now what?
 
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Your point isn't material. The Marxists were against all religion as Karl Marx himself taught. If Russia had been ruled by Scientologists the Marxists would have sought to overthrow them. It has to do with Marxism's view of religion and not specifically Christianity. How dumb do you have to be not to grasp this when it is explained to you repeatedly and taught in every 20th century history and policial science textbook on the topic?
How dumb do you have to be not to grasp that the mission of communism is to tear down the old Christian order?

Maybe if you stopped reading textbooks anstarted doing your own research you might realize.
 
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Please provide the names of the Pharisees controlling the world.
What are you gonna do with those names?

Check them against the 'official' global conspirators list?

lol.

You are so mainstream man, it hurts.

Toeing the line.
 
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I think it is interesting to note that Islam began about the same time as the Papacy and both are church-state powers.
And both of those started after the mother, talmudism.

The 'jews' even admit they are the mother religion....zone wheres that video, SDA mystery babylon thing with the rabbi?
 
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Cold War veteran. No hot conflicts. Lots of drilling for the big one that thankfully never came. Not much more to say about it so you can stop asking.

So Rothchild, Rockefeller, and Warburg are part of a secret Pharisitical Talmudic organization and currently control the world. How interesting and how does it work? Do they just pick up the phone and tell the Pope what to do? Do they call up Hu Jintao and order him about?

I mean even in England the Rothschilds have no interest in the largest bank and they've pretty much donated most of their estates and art to charity not to mention they've been disinvesting their own stock to foreign investors as of late. Their aggregate position in percentage of world's wealth has slid markedly since the 19th century. They are a pro free trade conglomerate of publicly traded companies managing funds, property, and engaging in the extraction of raw materials (oil, mining, etc...) just like many large conglomerates and if they weren't wealthy Jews you'd pay them no mind.

Here check out their last public financials from 2010: Investor RelationsInvestor Relations What you'll learn is that half their revenue came from financial advising (meaning they have divested so much of their wealth to charity that they aren't living off the interest like they once did and have to provide financial services to make up for it).

Notice there total operating income for the year was only 525.9 million pounds. Not exactly enough money to control the world there. I mean a piddly backwards starving country like North Korea has a GNP of about 45 billion so how is a Rothchild going to pick up the phone and boss him around?
Ok now I'm really suspicious.
 
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Control yourself. You're on a nonsensical rant here and not really saying anything.

References:

The House of Rothschild: Money's prophets, 1798-1848, Volume 1, Niall Ferguson, 1999, page 481-85.
Frederic Morton, The Rothschilds: Portrait of a Dynasty, 1962. ISBN 1-56836-220-X, page 57.
"The Rothschild story". The Independent.
"The richest Americans". Forbes.
"The Wealthiest Americans Ever". The New York Times. 15 July, 2007.

As stated, their net worth in real dollars has been in decline ever since the 19th century and declined considerably since their height. Their net worth nowhere even approachs the fantastic numbers you assert.

It's not what you think or feel, it's what you can prove.
Why are you being such a douche to people who have differing views to you?

And what makes your references any worth?

**shock horror** what if they are all paid off or OWNED by the Rothschild empire?
 
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Name a single credible source that estimates the Rothchild's fortunes today at over 100 trililion. The most credible sources I have put them in the billions with a few asserting at MOST a few trillion.
how do you think sources become 'credible'??

FUNDING.

Zero truth.....MEGABUCKS!
 
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Consumed

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Some people are so blind they only deem proof via controlled media/educational sources as credible.
That's how the Germans got caught up in hitlers net, believing the propaganda of the day until it was too late and total control was implemented.

All politicians today work off the same page, regardless the nation. Nations that fight for their sovereignty are deemed terrorist nations.
Politicians talk about a new world order and still people are blind and say "conspiracy theorists" "credible evidence".
As in the day of Jeremiah so it is now, surely they called him a "conspiracy theorist" lolz

Food for thought, America rejected open trade policies and implemented protectionism of all it's industries, country prospered to overtake the British stranglehold over trade, all worked in their favor at the expense of other nations. Last 100 yrs America has reversed that policy starting with Ted Roosevelt on, now it demands open trade.

Here in Australia it's killing our manufacturing and farming base, government says free trade is good. For who?? Not the people. BHP/Billington just closed down a sheet metal plant thats primary operation was export, we import more from china now to do domestic use of the material. 1100 jobs gone, government response is "it's ok, we will give 30 ooo ooo to help offset the loss and rejects having a inquiry to protect industries"
NWO at work.
 

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Cold War veteran. No hot conflicts. Lots of drilling for the big one that thankfully never came. Not much more to say about it so you can stop asking.

So Rothchild, Rockefeller, and Warburg are part of a secret Pharisitical Talmudic organization and currently control the world. How interesting and how does it work? Do they just pick up the phone and tell the Pope what to do? Do they call up Hu Jintao and order him about?

I mean even in England the Rothschilds have no interest in the largest bank and they've pretty much donated most of their estates and art to charity not to mention they've been disinvesting their own stock to foreign investors as of late. Their aggregate position in percentage of world's wealth has slid markedly since the 19th century. They are a pro free trade conglomerate of publicly traded companies managing funds, property, and engaging in the extraction of raw materials (oil, mining, etc...) just like many large conglomerates and if they weren't wealthy Jews you'd pay them no mind.

Here check out their last public financials from 2010: Investor RelationsInvestor Relations What you'll learn is that half their revenue came from financial advising (meaning they have divested so much of their wealth to charity that they aren't living off the interest like they once did and have to provide financial services to make up for it).

Notice there total operating income for the year was only 525.9 million pounds. Not exactly enough money to control the world there. I mean a piddly backwards starving country like North Korea has a GNP of about 45 billion so how is a Rothchild going to pick up the phone and boss him around?
what hilarity.
we have a resident Rothschild apologist.
interesting.

AoK could you tell me how humanitarian MONSANTO is?
and owns it? what is genetically modified food for?

and what are global vaccinations for? where did cancer come from?

who is Margaret Sanger? what is EUGENICS? where did the myth of Ham's curse of the Balck Man come from? who ran the slave trade?

who are the Khazars? who is Gog and Magog?

what's the lure of Solomon's Temple?

who or what is JABULON? who is Hiram?

who are the Bushs? who is B Obama?

also: WHO OWNS BLACKWATER (Xe)?

cut the childsplay AoK: smart guy like you playing that hand? pretty suspicious. anyway.

METHINKS YOU DO PROTEST TOO MUCH.

Bnai Brith and the Rothschilds are the only VISIBLE bad guys most know of.
don't matter because the genaologies are all connected.

there are many silent familes that we never hear about. though being the conspiracy scientist that i am, i know who they are. and i know what they do.

the public can do a little look see into the REDSHIELD (BAUER) family and see they own EVERYTHING.
follow the $$.

THE CHOOSE TO CALL THEMSELVES JEWS, that's their choice. they ain't Hebrews.

this isnt about people: ITS ABOUT AN ABOMINABLE RELIGION, purely satanic.

they are Talmudists generationally, and are not genetic Hebrews. they are JUST LIKE THE HERODS.

they have funded every major war - both sides, to achieve and ENDGAME.

the League of Nations was the first attempt, the UN the second. the UN is a private corporation.

anyone claiming to be a student of the Bible who does not

1) acknowledge an eschaton which encompasses a global union of all the nations under one satanic power

2) that the source and driver of the conspiracy is the very same antichrist mystery religion group that opposed and murdered Jesus - a confederacy of apostate jews and pagan gentiles

3) that the entire agenda (against first The Lamb and His people, second all men) is NOW CLEARLY VISIBLE AND STEAMING AHEAD

is not a very good student of the Bible.

for those who choose to deny; decry; ridicule; OR BLAME THOSE OF US WHO BOTHERED TO FIND OUT i say that's fine.....you'll be faced with the very same reality whether you believe it or not. some of us wish to help get past the hard stuff...but impossible to help someone who doesn't want to know. i see it everyday...wave OLD GLORY AND IT'LL BE ALRIGHT. right up to the day they come for you.

in those people, i see cowardice, fear, and unbelief (or conditioning that hasn't broken yet...better not leave it too long). this war on terror is a war on humanity. and it is a war on YOU. particularly you, christian. i thought you knew that.

i hear things like: israel didn't create hamas...thats the muslim brotherhood.
i laugh my head off. the rothschilds created the muslim brotherhood.
and the House of Saud.

Bnai Brith pulling the strings, and even enticing idiots to go into freemasonry...oh those RIGHTEOUS GENTILES (tools)...promised a place in the world to come: anybody figured out what they mean by that yet? The Pharisees rejected Jesus but their plotting has NEVER CEASED.

but standing in a burning building arguing with someone who doesn't want to be rescued is ridiculous.

AND I SAW ONE OF HIS HEADS, AS IT WERE, WOUNDED TO DEATH, AND THE DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED.

and all the world wondered.....

MOUNT MORIAH RECEIVED A DEADLY WOUND IN 70AD AND IS BACK TO LIFE, ALONG WITH THE SAME SERPENT CULT THAT BRUISED CHRIST'S HEEL.....what a surprise. but, most of evangelicalism was looking somewhere else when that happened. because they bought the wrong "Bible".

and many well intentioned (not that good intentions will matter on That Day) christians have helped with that resurrection. i wonder how many people have been slaughtered to bring this all about.....hundreds of millions. for this is a GRAND CHESSBOARD.

that beast has been slaughtering people to achieve new life, and its only just begun. all by DECEPTION, AND LIES, AND CAREFULLY CRAFTED FABLES. to seat THAT QUEEN WHO SAYS SHE IS NO WIDOW.

SYRIA IS NEXT.




THE NOAHIDE LAWS - Oral "Torah"
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/27759-noahide-laws.html


Galatians 4
Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.


Mark 8:15
"Be careful," Jesus warned them. "Watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and that of Herod."

as if anything in our NEW WORLD ORDER, this GLOBAL return to THE TOWER OF BABEL, this SATANIC KINGDOM that will rule for one hour happens

a) by accident
b) without God's full knowledge, foreknowledge and ORDERS

if there's one thing i can't stand it's being willingly ignorant when the Truth is available by the Spirit of Truth.

somebody wanted INDIVIDUAL NAMES? LOL...sorry...those i'm not giving out.


but just find out who actively and knowingly lives by this book:




and all its related texts and material like kabbalah, zohar, and the gentile useful idiots who use these books:



and you'll be doing well.

find out what they say, and you'll know sure enough.

and if you need it to match scripture...TRY READING YOUR BIBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING.

btw: i wouldn't recommend this version, since it was brought to you by the above groups, for the very purposes noted in this post.



2+2=5 winston.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Because simply saying that Satan and his demons control the world so therefore you don't have to provide any credible evidence for your fantastic global domination Pharistical Talmud Jewish conspiracy theory is a complete cop out. You do need to provide that information or nobody gives two cents for anything you have to say. You're just another ranting nonsensical conspiracy nut without it.

Not quiet. I already replied regarding it. Their existence doesn't prove your theory.

You haven't provided credible evidence proving the world is controlled by a few Pharisees except in your own mind (which I'll guess is why you think you have).

1. What are the names of the Pharisitical Talmudic Jews who control the world?

2. Where is the emperical evidence you promised on every point in this thread that you never provided?



Why do you wanna make this about individuals? We wrestle against principalities.

What good would it do if I rattled off a whole bunch of names to you?



You are a bit quiet on the evidence provided on noahide laws.

You asked for the evidence and I gave it to you.....so...now what?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Well I tried to explain Marxism to you but you're unteachable and have made up an incorrect definition rather than accept an accurate textbook definition and understanding.

It's obvious the reason you've chosen to do that is because your own incorrect definition aligns with your conspiracy theory and the correct textbook definition does not.

Marxism is an economic and socio-political worldview and method of socioeconomic inquiry that centers upon a materialist interpretation of history, a dialectical view of social change, and an analysis and critique of the development of capitalism.

It was not created for the sole purpose of destroying Christianity as a tactic of Pharisitical Talmudic Jews.

How dumb do you have to be not to grasp that the mission of communism is to tear down the old Christian order?

Maybe if you stopped reading textbooks anstarted doing your own research you might realize.
 
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Baloney. That's something a paranoid delusional conspiracy world nut would say.

In the real world, credibility refers to the objective and subjective components of the believability of a source or message (e.g. information).

Credibility has two key components: trustworthiness and expertise, which both have objective and subjective components.

Credibiliity is why my neighbor's claim that Hitler lives in the center of the earth is false, but the claim that there was a fire in Austin Texas yesterday is correct.

Credibility is what you're lacking strangelove.

how do you think sources become 'credible'??

FUNDING.

Zero truth.....MEGABUCKS!
 
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Some people are so blind they will believe anything no matter how incredible or uncredible the information or source might be.

That's how false conpiracy theories get started and abound such as the holocaust never occurred. Because they reject the credible evidence that it did occur. They then go on to cause a lot of damage perpetuating falsehoods that it didn't. The results of such reckless behavior hurt a lot of people around the world.

Many nations that fight for their sovereignty have other nations (which have politicians) that are their allies that support them so your assertion is a false one. Lybia is fighting for their sovereignty right now from an aweful despot that lied to the people and they have plenty of politicians and nations around the world supporting them and not calling them terrorists.

The difference between Jeremiah and some guy claiming the entire world is run by a few Pharisees today is that Jeremiah was speaking words given to him from God while the one here claiming the fantastic conspiracy theory is not and is not claiming to be a prophet of God. You should learn to draw more real and meaningful correlations. Just because Mars exists doesn't mean that Martians do. See how this works?

I'm against our broken trade paradigm too but it was Bush Sr that set it in motion with NAFTA (Clinton ratified it making it law) in the 1990's friend. Here's a good article on free trade. I wrote it for a blog: U.S. Recovery Is Dependent On Fixing Its Broken Trade Paradigm ~ Help Fix America First

Cheers!

Some people are so blind they only deem proof via controlled media/educational sources as credible.
That's how the Germans got caught up in hitlers net, believing the propaganda of the day until it was too late and total control was implemented.

All politicians today work off the same page, regardless the nation. Nations that fight for their sovereignty are deemed terrorist nations.
Politicians talk about a new world order and still people are blind and say "conspiracy theorists" "credible evidence".
As in the day of Jeremiah so it is now, surely they called him a "conspiracy theorist" lolz

Food for thought, America rejected open trade policies and implemented protectionism of all it's industries, country prospered to overtake the British stranglehold over trade, all worked in their favor at the expense of other nations. Last 100 yrs America has reversed that policy starting with Ted Roosevelt on, now it demands open trade.

Here in Australia it's killing our manufacturing and farming base, government says free trade is good. For who?? Not the people. BHP/Billington just closed down a sheet metal plant thats primary operation was export, we import more from china now to do domestic use of the material. 1100 jobs gone, government response is "it's ok, we will give 30 ooo ooo to help offset the loss and rejects having a inquiry to protect industries"
NWO at work.