50 Shades of Grey is Women's Porn

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Nautilus

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^ Obviously, if you're subjecting your spouse to graphic pornography while sodomizing them you are committing sexual immorality in your marriage when you should be keeping the marriage bed undefiled and presenting your spouse as a radiant church without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish but holy and blameless to God. You're no kid anymore Nautilus and need to start getting some sense about you.
Never once did I say it was cool to watch pornography in this thread. I'm saying if a couple enjoys a bit of kink in their marriage then that is for them and there isn't an issue to be made of it.
 
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I love how it's been mostly guys arguing in this thread about "porn for women" and "women's sexual liberation."

Just making an observation...
 
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I love how it's been mostly guys arguing in this thread about "porn for women" and "women's sexual liberation."

Just making an observation...
Technically, biblically, any one of these guys can tell you to shut your trap and cover your head, because as the bible says ''women, I do not render to you authority over any man''.

These guys are fairly liberal, considering.
 
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Technically, biblically, any one of these guys can tell you to shut your trap and cover your head, because as the bible says ''women, I do not render to you authority over any man''.

These guys are fairly liberal, considering.
Have to admit....THAT is pretty funny.
 

Nautilus

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I love how it's been mostly guys arguing in this thread about "porn for women" and "women's sexual liberation."

Just making an observation...
Im personally indifferent to 50 since Ive never read it and never will. Im just pro people being able to experiment within a marriage.
 
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Technically, biblically, any one of these guys can tell you to shut your trap and cover your head, because as the bible says ''women, I do not render to you authority over any man''.

These guys are fairly liberal, considering.
But I'm not Christian, so I wouldn't have to listen.

And I love how you say "these guys" as if you're not apart of the argument, haha.
 
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But I'm not Christian, so I wouldn't have to listen.

And I love how you say "these guys" as if you're not apart of the argument, haha.
Well, I'm not Christian either, so it would be a bit weird if I said ''Us guys could tell you ...''
 
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CC will not become a worldly site that promotes porn. If that is anyone's goal please leave now.
 
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CC will not become a worldly site that promotes porn. If that is anyone's goal please leave now.
Dude, this thread is against the likes of porn, in all forms. Just because something references something, it doesn't mean that something that's referenced is encouraged. Otherwise even the Bible would be considered out of bounds.
 
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Dude, this thread is against the likes of porn, in all forms. Just because something references something, it doesn't mean that something that's referenced is encouraged. Otherwise even the Bible would be considered out of bounds.
Personally...I think it's good to talk about sex. Growing up the way I did with it being a taboo subject was not good. Truth is...I told my oldest (14) that I want him to have lots of sex. I got his attention didn't I? Of course I told him with his wife.
 
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Sure, age appropriate in-family discussions are necessary. When I was growing up, moms would commonly use pets as an opportunity to answer our questions about why mama cat and papa cat made a kitty litter... lol. Sounds funny now but it was a big deal in the third grade you know.


Personally...I think it's good to talk about sex. Growing up the way I did with it being a taboo subject was not good. Truth is...I told my oldest (14) that I want him to have lots of sex. I got his attention didn't I? Of course I told him with his wife.
 
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You guys don't know the difference between porn and sex?
Um, yes. I sure hope I know the difference. One is destructive and the other, if done outside God's original plan, can be destructive.
 

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And if they did, they would be "technically" violating scripture. You skipped right over every verse that commands husbands to love their wives and give themselves to and for her even as Jesus Christ gave up Himself for the church demonstrating the fruits of God's Spirit (e.g. love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control) when interacting with her.

Doesn't sound like telling her to "shut your trap and cover your head" fits the biblical model at all. So why are you misrepresenting it as such?

And in addition to pulling a couple of verses out of context with the rest of scripture, your pulling it out of context with the culture his audience lived in. For example, the shaving of the head of the woman who disgraces her husband by committing adultery was prescribed by pagan Roman law which applied in the Roman colony of Corinth that Paul was addressing.

Got it so far? If a wife did not cover her head, culturally she was regarded in that community as someone who refuses to recognize her relationship with her husband (e.g. her marital status). In that time and place, if a wife didn't cover her head in public, it was considered a disgrace by the people that lived in the community per that culture.

But it was also considered a disgrace in the Hebrew culture that Paul was raised in. When a woman was tried by "the ordeal of the water of jealousy," her head was uncovered by the priest (Numbers 5:18). To be shorn or shaven was a sign of mourning (Deuteronomy 21:12), and was a disgrace inflicted on adulteresses.

Yet Paul did not issue a command, but, a sort of scornful inference, or reductio ad absurdum to make a point. Again, notice how Paul phrased it. Paul says literally that “she ought to have authority over her own head because of the angels.” Paul means that she should exercise wisely her right to decide whether to cover her head in a way that will honor her husband (11:8–9) [See: Keener, C. S. (1993). The IVP Bible background commentary: New Testament (1 Co 11:10). Downers Grove, IL: IV Press] not that her husband can order her to "shut her trap and cover your head."

If you want to grow in knowledge and truth, you need to focus on gaining it rather than engaging in the unfortunate, ignorant, juvenile, defensive hyperbole so many young atheists engage in. That is a complete waste of your time and intellect.


Technically, biblically, any one of these guys can tell you to shut your trap and cover your head, because as the bible says ''women, I do not render to you authority over any man''.

These guys are fairly liberal, considering.
 
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And if they did, they would be "technically" violating scripture. You skipped right over every verse that commands husbands to love their wives and give themselves to and for her even as Jesus Christ gave up Himself for the church demonstrating the fruits of God's Spirit (e.g. love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control) when interacting with her.

Doesn't sound like telling her to "shut your trap and cover your head" fits the biblical model at all. So why are you misrepresenting it as such?

And in addition to pulling a couple of verses out of context with the rest of scripture, your pulling it out of context with the culture his audience lived in. For example, the shaving of the head of the woman who disgraces her husband by committing adultery was prescribed by pagan Roman law which applied in the Roman colony of Corinth that Paul was addressing.

Got it so far? If a wife did not cover her head, culturally she was regarded in that community as someone who refuses to recognize her relationship with her husband (e.g. her marital status). In that time and place, if a wife didn't cover her head in public, it was considered a disgrace by the people that lived in the community per that culture.

But it was also considered a disgrace in the Hebrew culture that Paul was raised in. When a woman was tried by "the ordeal of the water of jealousy," her head was uncovered by the priest (Numbers 5:18). To be shorn or shaven was a sign of mourning (Deuteronomy 21:12), and was a disgrace inflicted on adulteresses.

Yet Paul did not issue a command, but, a sort of scornful inference, or reductio ad absurdum to make a point. Again, notice how Paul phrased it. Paul says literally that “she ought to have authority over her own head because of the angels.” Paul means that she should exercise wisely her right to decide whether to cover her head in a way that will honor her husband (11:8–9) [See: Keener, C. S. (1993). The IVP Bible background commentary: New Testament (1 Co 11:10). Downers Grove, IL: IV Press] not that her husband can order her to "shut her trap and cover your head."

If you want to grow in knowledge and truth, you need to focus on gaining it rather than engaging in the unfortunate, ignorant, juvenile, defensive hyperbole so many young atheists engage in. That is a complete waste of your time and intellect.

I guess you got told to shut YOUR trap! Sorry Human
 
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NO, not at all. I'm not rebuking him. I'm simply correcting an erroneous comment he made in a way that I hope spurs his growth.

I guess you got told to shut YOUR trap! Sorry Human