50 Shades of Grey is Women's Porn

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Nautilus

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I didn't know people were allowed to spew different positions in the bedroom on what's supposed to be a family friendly site. It's starting to get a bit too detailed.
And this is why the Bible belt of all places has the highest occurrence of teen pregnancies. Because the church gets scared when the topic of sex comes up and buries it head in the sand. If the subject matter is offensive to you the simple solution is not to enter the thread. No one is going into graphic detail or even truly going past what could be considered pg-13.

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Human laws are irrelavant. They are created on desires of man and not whats right.

And show me where the bible ever says you can do whatever you want as long as you arent hurting anyone?

And if you are a believer in Christ, Gods will comes first for you. Not desires. Oral and anal sex are also consensual, and God still says it disgusts and offends Him.
God tells us that those who do not believe in Him call His will foolish, and are hostile towards it.

Do you ever consider how God feels about what youre doing?


Once I find the list of do's and dont's for married couples having sexual intercourse in scripture i'll let you know, especially all your dont's. Until then how about you stop trying to force your personal conviction on others. I don't agree with you, and if I'm wrong well then I guess my future wife and I will take our chances on judgment day. I highly doubt we'd be condemned for a few lengths of silk or handcuffs.
 
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"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral [όρνους] and adulterous" -Hebrews 13:4

In the original Greek, it reads like this: Τίμιος ὁ γάμος ἐν πᾶσιν καὶ ἡ κοίτη ἀμίαντος, πόρνους γὰρ καὶ μοιχοὺς κρινεῖ ὁ Θεός.

Now πόρνους transliterates directly to pornous which is an inclusive term that means any immoral sexual act whatsoever (though it is also often used to denote the specific sin of fornication) such as in Ephesians 5:3 which states, "among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality (porneia), or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people" (Eph 5:3).

τίμιος ὁ γάμος addresses the sanctity of marriage when contracted: "Let it be held in honor in all respects; in all ways reverently regarded as a holy bond;" the succeeding clause, ἡ κοίτη ἀμίαντος, being a further explication of the same idea (cf. 1 Thessalonians 4:4, "That every one of you should know how to possess his own vessel [meaning, probably, as seems to be required by the verb κτᾶσθαι, 'get to himself his own wife] in sanctification and honor (ἐν ἀγιασμῷ καὶ τιμῇ);" where ἐν τιμῇ may express the same ides as τίμιος in the text).

Meaning, of course, that there are impure sex sins that remain impure sex sins whether or not mutual consent exists and whether or not they are conducted inside of a marriage relationship. You might want to clean up your act there Naughtylust. Lolol.


If its concsensual its not sinful.
 
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Just because a couple is married doesn't give them license to do anything they want. Marriage is an ordinance of God, & should be respected as such. BDSM is simply a tool in Satan's arsenal to degrade/destroy God's ordinance. Liberal views are the gate which allows the Devil to step in & defile God's ordinances.

Marriage isn't an excuse to "DO AS THOU WILT". Such an attitude is wicked rebellion, & that's as witchcraft in God's eyes.
Again, I disagree. When you find genuine reason that a married couple shouldn't slap on some handcuffs (providing they're both okay with it), come back to me.
 

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"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral [όρνους] and adulterous" -Hebrews 13:4

In the original Greek, it reads like this: Τίμιος ὁ γάμος ἐν πᾶσιν καὶ ἡ κοίτη ἀμίαντος, πόρνους γὰρ καὶ μοιχοὺς κρινεῖ ὁ Θεός.

Now πόρνους transliterates directly to pornous which is an inclusive term that means any immoral sexual act whatsoever (though it is also often used to denote the specific sin of fornication) such as in Ephesians 5:3 which states, "among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality (porneia), or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people" (Eph 5:3).

τίμιος ὁ γάμος addresses the sanctity of marriage when contracted: "Let it be held in honor in all respects; in all ways reverently regarded as a holy bond;" the succeeding clause, ἡ κοίτη ἀμίαντος, being a further explication of the same idea (cf. 1 Thessalonians 4:4, "That every one of you should know how to possess his own vessel [meaning, probably, as seems to be required by the verb κτᾶσθαι, 'get to himself his own wife] in sanctification and honor (ἐν ἀγιασμῷ καὶ τιμῇ);" where ἐν τιμῇ may express the same ides as τίμιος in the text).

Meaning, of course, that there are impure sex sins that remain impure sex sins whether or not mutual consent exists and whether or not they are conducted inside of a marriage relationship. You might want to clean up your act there Naughtylust. Lolol.
SO where is this list of impure sex sins? I mean if their is a rulebook for married couples where is it? Or is it more one of those implied lists of well I personally think this counts so no one should do it?
 
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Again, I disagree. When you find genuine reason that a married couple shouldn't slap on some handcuffs (providing they're both okay with it), come back to me.
Found it..... right above yer head at #142
 
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Again, I disagree. When you find genuine reason that a married couple shouldn't slap on some handcuffs (providing they're both okay with it), come back to me.
For the same reason that pot is a gateway drug. The lusts of the flesh beget more lust of the flesh.
 

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While I read the linked nothing on it mentions acts that may or may not be considered sinful in the bedroom between a couple. Sure it says stay away from porn, but yet again no list of do's and dont's. ONce again this is coming down to peoples personal opinions and a select few trying to force theirs on others while the rest are just saying its your marriage do what you are comfortable with.
 
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In God's Word, of course. The rulebook can be summarized a follows: if it's an immoral, impure, unholy act then don't bring it into your marriage.

Scripture lists both specific examples of such as well as giving inclusive guidelines to follow. I'm sorry if you find God's holiness unpalatable but that's a problem with your own desires not God's holiness.

Did God Really Say? Setting Godly Boundaries in Marriage | Focus on the Family


SO where is this list of impure sex sins? I mean if their is a rulebook for married couples where is it? Or is it more one of those implied lists of well I personally think this counts so no one should do it?
 

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I read your linked post and even explore the rest of the site. You know the type of sex they listed as wrong? Rape, Homosexuality, premarital and extramarital sex. Once again no listing of certain acts ina marriage. You know why? Because there isn't one. This thread has boiled down to a few trying to force their opinions of what is/is not proper on others and the rest saying it's YOUR marriage do what works for YOU as a couple.
 
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I think if you have God at the centre of your marriage then you will be prompted by the Holy Spirit if your behaviour is likely to cause separation from God.
 

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I think if you have God at the centre of your marriage then you will be prompted by the Holy Spirit if your behaviour is likely to cause separation from God.
That's fair. I won't argue with someone being convicted that what they are doing is wrong. Its certainly a better tactic than some who are just into imposing regulations.
 
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For the same reason that pot is a gateway drug. The lusts of the flesh beget more lust of the flesh.
Do you have no passion, desire or lust in your marriage? lol
 

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It's a heart/mind issue with everything we do, not just things within our marriages. Objects by themselves are not sinful, it is how they are used by the person and the spirit of their use. Any practice can be sinful if done for sinful reasons. I'm not about to judge what people do in their relationships (frankly, I don't care) but actions becomes questionable if they are mock imitations of evil. Perhaps someone who gets a thrill from pretending to hurt their spouse should reexamine the root of such a desire - likewise for someone who would want to be hurt - because certainly actual violence is not something God would approve of? Why would you want to emulate sin?

Again, not judging individuals because I'm not God and I'm not perfect. But when things are practiced as a means of pursuing the satisfaction of a sin without actually committing the sin, there is a heart issue, IMO.

Whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. (Philippians 4:8)
 
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It's a heart/mind issue with everything we do, not just things within our marriages. Objects by themselves are not sinful, it is how they are used by the person and the spirit of their use. Any practice can be sinful if done for sinful reasons. I'm not about to judge what people do in their relationships (frankly, I don't care) but actions becomes questionable if they are mock imitations of evil. Perhaps someone who gets a thrill from the pretending to hurt their spouse should reexamine the root of such a desire - likewise for someone who would want to be hurt - because certainly actual violence is not something God would approve of? Why would you want to emulate sin?

Again, not judging individuals because I'm not God and I'm not perfect. But when things are practiced as a means of pursuing the satisfaction of a sin without actually committing the sin, there is a heart issue, IMO.

Whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. (Philippians 4:8)
Beautiful words!
 
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Just to say people, this thread was originally started to get everyone to realize the sin in "50 Shades of Grey." It was NOT posted in order to start a talk about where we draw the line between appropriate bedroom play between married partners and sinful sex kinks.

I think those things are best hashed out between God and the couple in question, although of course there are limitations (which is one of my main points). But the main idea here is that 50 Shades crosses a clear Biblical line...

I think we are all mature enough in Christ to know that Abuse and Rape are clearly wrong, no? If not, then our problem would be a lot more than just literary pornography, but an abnormal psychology at that!

If things like rape and abuse seem justifiable to you, then you need some serious help...
 
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Then you understand having passion or lust towards her.
My wife is not an object or a means to an end. Every time I have sex with my wife I remind myself that it is a renewel of the covenant of our marriage. It truly is a beautiful thing and can't be understood until one experiences the way God blesses it.
 
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Incorrect. The thread has "boiled down" to people explaining to you that God's wants a holy people who demonstrate the fruits of the Holy Spirit found in Galatians 5 which are “love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control."

Ephesians 5 states it better:

"Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.

Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them.

For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord.

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. This is why it is said: 'Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”

Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is.

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband."

^ Obviously, if you're subjecting your spouse to graphic pornography while sodomizing them you are committing sexual immorality in your marriage when you should be keeping the marriage bed undefiled and presenting your spouse as a radiant church without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish but holy and blameless to God. You're no kid anymore Nautilus and need to start getting some sense about you.


I read your linked post and even explore the rest of the site. You know the type of sex they listed as wrong? Rape, Homosexuality, premarital and extramarital sex. Once again no listing of certain acts ina marriage. You know why? Because there isn't one. This thread has boiled down to a few trying to force their opinions of what is/is not proper on others and the rest saying it's YOUR marriage do what works for YOU as a couple.
 
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