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VioletReigns

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Does scripture not say wives be submissive to your husbands? And that the unbelieving husband is sanctified ny the believing wife and vice versa?
Jesus laid His life down for the church by submitting His will to the Father. Jesus did not lay His life down for the church like a rug for disobedient people to walk on. The Word clearly states that we are to give up our lives to God, not people.

"Unbelieving husband" does not mean abusive husband. Abuse is against the law. You can be disbelieving and still treat people with respect. The law DEMANDS you treat people with respect. "Sanctified by the believing" spouse means that because the Christian spouse is obedient to God, the unbelieving spouse is blessed to have the Holy Spirit reigning in their home.

Use wisdom! Where in the Word does it instruct anybody to lay down like a rug and let people walk on you? NO! It says STAND in the strength of Jesus Christ. It says TRUST the LORD and OBEY HIM! Not trust people. Surely you are not telling wives to lay down like a rug when Jesus tells men to lift women up and protect them from the world?!

What godly man of wisdom would tell a woman to submit to abuse??? :confused:
 
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sveinen

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rough one. sorry. there's verse that amongst married man and woman the body belongs to the other.. "if not i'd possibly be at encouraging over time exchanging the fat with muscle through i wouldn't know what activity."
no oaths, guys...! :)
The Cross.
Christ Took Care Of The Matter.
ask husband if he's cool with you rather gaining power, please :)
 
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VioletReigns

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This reminds me of the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. They were also instructed to lay down and obey someone other than God. When you can convince me that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego should have bowed down to the ungodly rather than stand on the Word of God, I will believe a godly husband or wife should also bow down to their abusive spouse. :rolleyes:
 
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sveinen

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sorry about all the women blaming your man :)
 
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kaylagrl

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Does scripture not say wives be submissive to your husbands? And that the unbelieving husband is sanctified ny the believing wife and vice versa?

See this is where we get into trouble.Some men take submissiveness to a whole new level and expect wives will obey because men claim Biblical authority.The OP lost a lot of weight and that should be good enough.You make very immature,pushy abusive young men in the church when you give them licence to act like dictators in their own homes.This irks me to no end.It is wrong teaching.If a woman has no say she might as well go get a burka and join the Muslim faith if we teach submission in this way.Total nonsense.Her husband needs to grow up and understand what is important in life.His wife will age,things will sag,wrinkle, and he'll have hair loss and a belly and if he cant love her because she's not 110 pounds then he is spoiled,shallow and selfish. The OP is not in the wrong.She did a great job and her hubby should be praising her for her hard work.The only thing that will change these shallow men is for women to be real and stop being their mommies.Treat them like men and they may just grow up one day.
 
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kaylagrl

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sorry about all the women blaming your man :)
Women are not blaming her man.We're responding to her question.Her husband is in the wrong and needs to learn to be less shallow.
 

Agricola

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Does scripture not say wives be submissive to your husbands? And that the unbelieving husband is sanctified ny the believing wife and vice versa?
Yes, but most men stop at that and fail to read on, if the husband wants wife to submit to him, then she will do so willingly if he loves her unconditionally as Christ loves the church. Unfortunately hardly any men even attempt to do this, which is a crying shame. It is not at all right to preach to a woman "Submit to your husband" if he is abusing her or not attempting to keep his part of the bargain. Abuse does not mean physical violence either, the OP is being abused. There is nothing to gain in submitting to a non-believer abusive husband.

Epeshians 5
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

[SUP]23[/SUP]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

[SUP]26 [/SUP]That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

[SUP]28 [/SUP]So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
 
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sveinen

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Women are not blaming her man.We're responding to her question.Her husband is in the wrong and needs to learn to be less shallow.
1 Corinthians 7:4
"..then if they make some pact, agreement, deal." "there might be what seems to be a problem if theyre both law-abiding christians, like."
 
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sveinen

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1 Corinthians 7:4
"..then if they make some pact, agreement, deal." "there might be what seems to be a problem if theyre both law-abiding christians, like."
"i see i mistook a comment from an andrew for an angry lady comment, though." well, we found the verse :D
 
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MadParrotWoman;1817532 I lost weight this time last year and Christmas was the start of my putting it all back on again. I'm trying again this year - don't fall into the same trap.[/QUOTE said:
I hope you're not being too harsh on yourself and the weight you're at. :)
 
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Earlier this year, I decided to lose my baby weight and college weight. My husband was supportive, but said he didn't want to get his hopes up because I'd said this kind of thing before, but then given up. This time, I was determined. Over the last seven months, I've succeeded in losing 30 pounds. I now weigh 125. I'd said during the time that I wanted to get down to 115. My husband wanted that too. However, the more I lost, the more the pounds slowed down until they just stopped, and I couldn't lose another pound no matter what I did. At that point (about a week ago) I decided that I was much healthier, happy with how I looked, and could reasonably maintain my weight. I decided to stop actively trying to lose, and maintain the weight I was at. When I told my husband, though, he kind of went ballistic. He said that I'd promised him that I'd get to 115, that I'd lied to him about how much I was going to lose, that I'd gotten his hopes up for nothing, and that I was definitely going to gain it all back. I lost 30 pounds and he's acting like I haven't lost any. I don't know what to do. Should I keep trying to lose that last 10, even if I don't want to? Should I just let him be mad? Should I try to convince him to see it my way? Help!
Hi Rose. I just joined and this is the first thread I'm commenting on. It sounds like you did a great job losing a lot of weight. It does sound like your husband is picking the wrong battle -- unless, like some said, his pressure is actually encouraging to you. If it isn't, what do you think the chances are that if you let the subject drop that it will stay dropped?
 

Atwood

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Dearest Sister Rose88, congratulations to you honey for your excellent determination in getting yourself at a healthy weight. I'm so happy you met your goal! You say you feel healthy and that is what matters. :)

As for your husband demanding you lose more weight, he needs to lose his ugly demanding attitude. He should supportive of you, not demanding. I recommend counseling ASAP as criticism, anger and manipulation is a much worse problem than a few extra pounds. I wouldn't even discuss weight with him until he agreed to get counseling for his bad attitude. Make sure you talk to your pastor about it soon before this hurtful situation gets any worse.
Violet, where is the scripture to support your POV?
The sins of a husband do not justify the sins of a wife.
What does Proverbs say about criticism?
Are you encouraging the wife to obey & fear her husband?
Refusing to discuss, is that fearing the husband?

Who controls the body of the spouse? Who has authority over the body of a spouse?
1 Cor 7 says something on the subject.

I can imagine the pastor having all the spouses who object to the criticism they get from the other, running to the pastor to lay that in his ears. One thing scripture does not say (Mat 18) is that if a Christian sins vs another Christian, to go & report it to the pastor first step.

Now if you had the husband to talk to,
indeed you might remind him of how he is to treat his wife;
but I don't think he is here.
Of course it is vain to make a rule for yourself that you can't be happy unless someone else changes in some way you want him to change to -- thinking that something MUST be some way is a path to unhappiness.

It seems ironic that we wait until death to be free from sin (he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin). So right when we get to where we could have a marriage free of conflict, we no longer can be married! And of course proclaiming the law to each other won't transform each other to being like Christ. (When the law came, sin revived & I died). The love of Christ transforms (constrains); the glory of the Lord transforms (1 Cor 3:18). I don't know of any hope to facilitate change for the better either in ourselves or in others aside from presenting the glory of God & the love of God from scripture -- though the law can be a schoolmaster to lead to Christ, if it leads to our despairing of self-righteous self-ability.
 
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psychomom

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i have to wonder though...when God commands wives to submit to their husbands,
is this what he had in mind??

i'm unsure. my husband, who is one of those (apparently) rare guys
who loves me...lays down his life (his own desires, etc) for me every day
says, NO it is not.

to us, this situation sounds more like Rose had good intentions,
is healthier, and happy where she is.
and unless she's 3'7, 125 seems a good weight.

i still think there must be more to what's in her husband's mind than ten pounds...
i don't mean to imply something awful against the man,
but 10 lbs seems like it shouldn't be that much of an issue...?
 

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Earlier this year, I decided to lose my baby weight and college weight. My husband was supportive, but said he didn't want to get his hopes up because I'd said this kind of thing before, but then given up. This time, I was determined. Over the last seven months, I've succeeded in losing 30 pounds. I now weigh 125. I'd said during the time that I wanted to get down to 115. My husband wanted that too. However, the more I lost, the more the pounds slowed down until they just stopped, and I couldn't lose another pound no matter what I did. At that point (about a week ago) I decided that I was much healthier, happy with how I looked, and could reasonably maintain my weight. I decided to stop actively trying to lose, and maintain the weight I was at. When I told my husband, though, he kind of went ballistic. He said that I'd promised him that I'd get to 115, that I'd lied to him about how much I was going to lose, that I'd gotten his hopes up for nothing, and that I was definitely going to gain it all back. I lost 30 pounds and he's acting like I haven't lost any. I don't know what to do. Should I keep trying to lose that last 10, even if I don't want to? Should I just let him be mad? Should I try to convince him to see it my way? Help!
Your husband certainly does not appreciate what he has and needs a attitude adjustment. Tell him that he can sleep on the couch until you lose the 10 lbs.
 
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kaylagrl

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Violet, where is the scripture to support your POV?
The sins of a husband do not justify the sins of a wife.
What does Proverbs say about criticism?
Are you encouraging the wife to obey & fear her husband?
Refusing to discuss, is that fearing the husband?

Who controls the body of the spouse? Who has authority over the body of a spouse?
1 Cor 7 says something on the subject.

I can imagine the pastor having all the spouses who object to the criticism they get from the other, running to the pastor to lay that in his ears. One thing scripture does not say (Mat 18) is that if a Christian sins vs another Christian, to go & report it to the pastor first step.

Now if you had the husband to talk to,
indeed you might remind him of how he is to treat his wife;
but I don't think he is here.
Of course it is vain to make a rule for yourself that you can't be happy unless someone else changes in some way you want him to change to -- thinking that something MUST be some way is a path to unhappiness.

It seems ironic that we wait until death to be free from sin (he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin). So right when we get to where we could have a marriage free of conflict, we no longer can be married! And of course proclaiming the law to each other won't transform each other to being like Christ. (When the law came, sin revived & I died). The love of Christ transforms (constrains); the glory of the Lord transforms (1 Cor 3:18). I don't know of any hope to facilitate change for the better either in ourselves or in others aside from presenting the glory of God & the love of God from scripture -- though the law can be a schoolmaster to lead to Christ, if it leads to our despairing of self-righteous self-ability.


1 Cor. 7 is talking about sex and not refusing your partner.Its not saying your partner has authority as to how much you weigh. It talks about yielding to your partner,that is sexually. The husband is wrong and hopefully he'll see that and apologize and start encouraging his wife. He's being shallow and uncaring.
 
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sassylady

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You are fine, he needs to grow up.
 

DiscipleDave

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Your husband is indeed immature. and i feel for you.

But if you told him, your husband that you would reach that weight, than i am sorry to say, the Godly thing to do is to reach that weight, unless of coarse, it would be detrimental to your health, then do not do it. But if you can lose 10 more pounds, you should do it because you told your husband you would get to that weight.
We are here on this Earth to please God, and if you told your husband that you would reach that weight, then you should make every attempt to be True to your word and please God because you did not lie.
But there is a brighter side to this as well. Once you have reached that weight you told him you would, you can always gain the ten pounds back. It is not very likely you told your husband that you would get to that weight and remain there. More than likely you merely told him you wanted to get to that weight. So then keep your word, get to that weight, and then if you want to regain the ten pounds, to get to the weight you want to be at, where you want to maintain it at.
i think your husband is a big fat baby for even getting upset about this matter. But if your husband expects you to keep your word on this matter, then do so, it is the Godly thing to do, despite what people tell you in this generation.

^i^
 

Angela53510

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lol, Agricola, why don't you tell us what you really think? :)

gotta love an Aussie...
Pretty sure that is a British flag! Unless he is an Aussie living in Britain! Either way, it made me laugh! Both of you!
 
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Earlier this year, I decided to lose my baby weight and college weight. My husband was supportive, but said he didn't want to get his hopes up because I'd said this kind of thing before, but then given up. This time, I was determined. Over the last seven months, I've succeeded in losing 30 pounds. I now weigh 125. I'd said during the time that I wanted to get down to 115. My husband wanted that too. However, the more I lost, the more the pounds slowed down until they just stopped, and I couldn't lose another pound no matter what I did. At that point (about a week ago) I decided that I was much healthier, happy with how I looked, and could reasonably maintain my weight. I decided to stop actively trying to lose, and maintain the weight I was at. When I told my husband, though, he kind of went ballistic. He said that I'd promised him that I'd get to 115, that I'd lied to him about how much I was going to lose, that I'd gotten his hopes up for nothing, and that I was definitely going to gain it all back. I lost 30 pounds and he's acting like I haven't lost any. I don't know what to do. Should I keep trying to lose that last 10, even if I don't want to? Should I just let him be mad? Should I try to convince him to see it my way? Help!
Whenever I hear of people obsessed with weight-loss, it always brings to mind this ad I saw that says: "Look good, feel good." Basically saying that if you loose weight you'll look good... and that should make you feel good.

But just as I asked myself the first time I saw that ad, the question I ask myself is: "Shouldn't it be the other way around? I mean, shouldn't it be an 'inside-out' thing instead?"

I do appreciate the fact that someone with nothing but darkness inside will only rely on the outside to get the light he/she needs within. That is: They depend 100% on the outside.

However for someone who has got Christ inside (the Light of the World, as well as the spring of water of Life), this person should never depend on the outside. And their outside beauty will always come as a result of the light shining from within.

Now, to address the specific scenario of you and your hubby: We come in a relationship to share something with the other person. It's a natural instinct for us humans. We always want to know what it is that we're bringing at the table... because we don't wanna feel like we're coming empty handed; just to receive without giving; just to get our needs fulfilled without fulfilling the other person's needs (or at least a little bit).

We always aim to "contribute" in some way to our partner's life in a relationship. The question is: What do you consider to be your contribution to your husband's life? If you always tell yourself "I have nothing else to give, except for my body" Your hubby will sense it. Even if you never said it out loud. He will sense it and he will want/expect you to deliver... while you yourself are always under pressure to come up with twists, lots of creativity to make your body (your offering) more interesting and/or attractive for him.

What I wonder is how long can you keep that up? I mean, how much "twists" can a woman's body endure? Today you're still in the "weight-loss" episodes, but who knows; tomorrow you'll probably move on to "implants"... and maybe by the time you enter the botox stages (for your face), scientists will have come up with a whole bunch of other things... all of which will still put pressure on you; (probably causing heart problems as well, due to stress, and who knows, maybe the weight is coming back again). How many battles can you fight at the same time? Probably all of them... in which case I wish you good luck.

However on the other hand, if you focus all that creativity to your soul instead... that is; come up with all those twists in the views you share with him, and somehow manage to always "intrigue" him; always amaze him with you ideas, I can promise you that it will be much easier because, rather than the "body" which relies mostly on scientists (and probably in danger of getting poisoned), your soul relies entirely on Christ who lives in you. You don't need to do anything; basically all you have to do is give him your mouth and He (the Lord) will speak through it. And of course everyone else will praise you because they attribute those thoughts to you, except for a few of them who are wiser, and mature enough in these affairs of the Spirit. Only they will know who exactly is speaking whenever you open your mouth.

So; 2 directions... i.e. you're standing at a crossroads, wondering what it is that you have to offer to your man. And whatever you decide, you will have to use all your mind and heart and soul to "cultivate" it and DELIVER... (because we men will instinctively know what the answer to that question is; even if you don't speak it out loud.)

All the best my dear. :)
 
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psychomom

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Pretty sure that is a British flag! Unless he is an Aussie living in Britain! Either way, it made me laugh! Both of you!

*slaps forehead*

duh!
don't post late at night, ellie!
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union jack...got it. hahaha