Surrogacy and The Bible.. Yay or nay?

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Christianrkchk89

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First of all, just incase you don't know.. There are two kinds of surrogacy.

1) the surrogate mother is carrying a baby made of the baby's father's sperm and the baby's mother's egg.

2) the surrogate mother uses her own egg and the baby's father's sperm to produce a baby for the expecting parents.

I'm against #2 personally.. I feel like if the surrogate mother has essentially cheated on her husband with another man and creating a child for that other family. I know that no sexual acts have occurred but that surrogate mother will have a child out there that's half hers and no relation to her husband.. And that's just wrong to me.

With #1 however I don't see any moral issues like in #2.. But does the Bible say anything that you know of?

The only thing I can think of is like John the baptist's parents and how God never gave them a child until well into their years when He decided they were ready and it would be beneficial. So is having a baby for someone who can't carry one on their own essentially "playing God?" I guess invetro and test tube babies could all fall under this category and I've never really took the time to dig any deeper than surface info on those either? I'm not saying I find anything wrong with these ways of conceiving children.. I just want to know if you know any scripture that backs up or tears down the good that surrogacy brings to peoples' lives.

thanks in advance.
 
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my mother breast fed my brother and my neice at the same time. the purpose for medical advancement is to encourage life and it's quality. in old testament scripture having children was so important that women who were barren gave their husbands another woman to have children by. it didn't have the desired result in the case of sarah and hagar because sarah lost faith in the word given to her by God and we are still paying for that today. however don't forget that not all of the 12 tribes came from the legitimate wives. yet all of the tribes are considered legitimate heirs.
 
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There are instances of surrogate mothers in the bible.
The first is hagar for sarah, that did not work out later, when the boyy was older, because of the differences between the two woman.

The second happend in jakobs family, and there were differences between the two (sisters lea and rahel), but no differences towards the two surrogate mothers (Bilha and Sipa).

so yes there are examples in the bilble, where god belessed surrogarte mothers (Bilha and Sipa).
 
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I'm against #2 as well as it appears adulterous even though no sexual acts occurred. Children are a gift from God rather than a right so I believe prayer, patience, and seeking God's will is important as He is the one that opens and closes the womb.
 
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I'm personally against both of them. Fertility is a gift from God and is intrinsically tied to the sexual act. I feel that any attempt to create life outside the martial act is wrong. Besides, there are plenty of kids waiting to be adopted.
 
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amdg said:
I'm personally against both of them. Fertility is a gift from God and is intrinsically tied to the sexual act. I feel that any attempt to create life outside the martial act is wrong. Besides, there are plenty of kids waiting to be adopted.
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I personally have no problem with the second. That's just about helping a couple where the woman can't carry and bare children. That child still belongs to them. Also, I notice you're assuming this woman is married that carries the surrogate child. That would be very odd, I'll admit. But I wouldn't say it's immoral if her husband had no problem with it. Even in case #1, it's not like she had an affair with another man.
 
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Surrogacy is alot more complicated than carrying someone else's child.
In vitro is highly unethical in my opinion considering the embryos that are disguarded.

There's also legal issues, and what if the future parents back out? That has happened befor.

There was a situation not long ago about a surrogate where the baby had something wrong with it. The parents decided they did not want the baby and she was ordered to terminate the pregnancy. The surrogate refused to abort and she ended up having a lawsuit filed against her.

I don't support surrogacy at all. To me it's unethical.
 
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In the UK they are now creating babies using 3 sets of DNA....not just 2 (im not a scientist so please dont ask on this one) I saw it on the news this week. Designer babies. I personally think the technology to create life in this way, or in surrogacy is men playing God.
 
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I don't agree with the idea of a married woman getting pregnant with another man. Let's say the Queen of England couldn't get pregnant with her husband. So she gets a sperm donor. Could the son be king? No, because he's a b..... He's not the legitimate heir.

I tip my proverbial hat to parents who adopt. I also appreciate the compassion for a man who raises the child of a wife who has been unfaithful or who was raped.

But I don't understand why any man would knowingly go along with his wife having a child with another man. That's totally crazy. The child is still not his, biologically, and she had him while married to him. It's just not right.

My wife was talking to this elderly once who had a relative whose husband was sterile. We had a few kids and my wife thought she was hinting at me donating. There is no way. I don't want to have any children out there that I don't raise. If I were to die younger than planned, that's beyond my control. But I am not willingly going to have a child and not even know the child, and have that kid call another man 'daddy.'

Legally I think all sperm donors should be responsible for their children.

I don't know why a woman would want to, either.

As far as borrowing a womb is concerned, there are some ethical concerns about invitro fertalization. One is that they kill or freeze a bunch of embryos. If you believe life begins at conception, that's an issue. I would suspect there are some health risks in freezing embryos. I would suspect there are some health risks to the baby and the surrogate for surrogate pregnancies.

My opinion is that if God wants a couple to conceive, He can let that couple conceive their own baby and they don't have to bring in a third party. God granted lots of infertile people and couples children in the Bible: Abraham and Sarah, Rachel, Hana the mother of Samuel, Samson's parents, and Zecharias and Elizabeth.
 
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presidente said:
I don't agree with the idea of a married woman getting pregnant with another man. Let's say the Queen of England couldn't get pregnant with her husband. So she gets a sperm donor. Could the son be king? No, because he's a b..... He's not the legitimate heir.

I tip my proverbial hat to parents who adopt. I also appreciate the compassion for a man who raises the child of a wife who has been unfaithful or who was raped.

But I don't understand why any man would knowingly go along with his wife having a child with another man. That's totally crazy. The child is still not his, biologically, and she had him while married to him. It's just not right.

My wife was talking to this elderly once who had a relative whose husband was sterile. We had a few kids and my wife thought she was hinting at me donating. There is no way. I don't want to have any children out there that I don't raise. If I were to die younger than planned, that's beyond my control. But I am not willingly going to have a child and not even know the child, and have that kid call another man 'daddy.'

Legally I think all sperm donors should be responsible for their children.

I don't know why a woman would want to, either.

As far as borrowing a womb is concerned, there are some ethical concerns about invitro fertalization. One is that they kill or freeze a bunch of embryos. If you believe life begins at conception, that's an issue. I would suspect there are some health risks in freezing embryos. I would suspect there are some health risks to the baby and the surrogate for surrogate pregnancies.

My opinion is that if God wants a couple to conceive, He can let that couple conceive their own baby and they don't have to bring in a third party. God granted lots of infertile people and couples children in the Bible: Abraham and Sarah, Rachel, Hana the mother of Samuel, Samson's parents, and Zecharias and Elizabeth.
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Well, the sperm donor and the woman don't sleep together. They never even meet each other. Adopting is really hard at this point in time I hear. They also pick qualities in a sperm donor that match the segregate father, if you could call him that. I doubt if any woman would do it if her husband didn't want to, anyway. She'd certainly want her husband to love the child.
 
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Well, the sperm donor and the woman don't sleep together. They never even meet each other. Adopting is really hard at this point in time I hear. They also pick qualities in a sperm donor that match the segregate father, if you could call him that. I doubt if any woman would do it if her husband didn't want to, anyway. She'd certainly want her husband to love the child.
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It's not right.

1 Samuel 1:6
Because the LORD had closed Hannah's womb, her rival kept provoking her in order to irritate her.
 
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It's not right.

1 Samuel 1:6
Because the LORD had closed Hannah's womb, her rival kept provoking her in order to irritate her.
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I'm not sure what that has to do with surrogacy, jimmydiggs. That was one situation and the surrogate mother was right there raising the surrogate child. In the Old Testament, as you well know, men often not only had more than one wife, they had courtesan's as well.
 
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twofeet said:
In the UK they are now creating babies using 3 sets of DNA....not just 2 (im not a scientist so please dont ask on this one) I saw it on the news this week. Designer babies. I personally think the technology to create life in this way, or in surrogacy is men playing God.
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You know, I really don't know how that would work. With mongoloid babies, they have an extra chromosome. That's the problem.

Sorry, you did say not to ask. lol.
 
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presidente said:
I don't agree with the idea of a married woman getting pregnant with another man. Let's say the Queen of England couldn't get pregnant with her husband. So she gets a sperm donor. Could the son be king? No, because he's a b..... He's not the legitimate heir.

I tip my proverbial hat to parents who adopt. I also appreciate the compassion for a man who raises the child of a wife who has been unfaithful or who was raped.

But I don't understand why any man would knowingly go along with his wife having a child with another man. That's totally crazy. The child is still not his, biologically, and she had him while married to him. It's just not right.

My wife was talking to this elderly once who had a relative whose husband was sterile. We had a few kids and my wife thought she was hinting at me donating. There is no way. I don't want to have any children out there that I don't raise. If I were to die younger than planned, that's beyond my control. But I am not willingly going to have a child and not even know the child, and have that kid call another man 'daddy.'

Legally I think all sperm donors should be responsible for their children.

I don't know why a woman would want to, either.

As far as borrowing a womb is concerned, there are some ethical concerns about invitro fertalization. One is that they kill or freeze a bunch of embryos. If you believe life begins at conception, that's an issue. I would suspect there are some health risks in freezing embryos. I would suspect there are some health risks to the baby and the surrogate for surrogate pregnancies.

My opinion is that if God wants a couple to conceive, He can let that couple conceive their own baby and they don't have to bring in a third party. God granted lots of infertile people and couples children in the Bible: Abraham and Sarah, Rachel, Hana the mother of Samuel, Samson's parents, and Zecharias and Elizabeth.
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I was visiting a church last year where they had a dedication service going on for 2 babies. BOTH babies were from families where the doctor had told them they could never had kids. They went to God, God answers prayers. I think it is that simple. God wants us to trust Him, ALL things are possible through Him. When we dont trust we take matters into our own hands and MAKE things happen. You gave great biblical examples of those trusting in God. He has never changed.
 
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