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What verse? You did not post the verse. You told me which verse it was without posting the actual verse. There is a difference, you know, just like there is a difference between what you said Jesus said, and what Jesus actually said. Perhaps you need to read the verse again to figure it out. Read the verse, and then compare to what you said Jesus said. They do not match up.
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Here you go I will hold your hand and help you look up a verse for you.
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Now since I had to do all the work for you and spoon feed you tell me how I did not say that? Because I said they CANT like a camel CANT go through the eye of the needle whether its literal or old hebrew slang for the great palace.
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It does not match perfectly so you misrepresent again. Jesus did not say a rich man could not enter into the kingdom of heaven, which is what you said He said, and now you say it matched perfectly what He said when it does not. Abraham was a rich man. David was a rich man. Do you really think neither enter/ed the kingdom of heaven? Jacob was also rich. Joseph was second in command in Egypt. Jesus was making a point, but it was not what you said.
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Cute picture by the way. Daughter?
The Lord determines what His servant is to be and what the qualifications are. Not me or you. I'm only reading God's word and Joel doesn't come up to snuff as they use to say.
He doesn't reprove, rebuke, exhort or correct. He won't.....he said he won't. It's not his calling. So if it isn't his calling, why is he preaching/teaching if he's not going to teach all of God's word?
In obedience to God and His word, he can't leave out what he doesn't like. When he isn't preaching according to God's rules, he becomes a false teacher.
So it all has nothing to do with me. I'm not telling him how to preach. God is telling him how to and he's not listening. He's saying what he wants to say. So God hasn't sent him.
I'm being obedient to God's word and I'm using His discernment.
I'm trying to warn others that there headed in the wrong direction by following a false teacher. That's all I can do.
If you all still like him, you'll still follow him. But there may be someone that doesn't know and will check out his teachings with God's word and see if he is really teaching the gospel of the kingdom or not.
That happened to me as a young believer. I didn't realize there was so much differing truths out there that all claim they're preaching God's truth. I didn't check anything out for a while until I read in the bible that we are to do so.
As an example, I tell my oldest child to tell his brothers and sister that we're going to the amusement park tomorrow at 4:00, but they must have their rooms cleaned by noon because we will leave the house at that time.
So the oldest tells the siblings about the amusement park and that we'll leave at noon, but he purposely leaves out the fact that they can't go if their rooms aren't cleaned.
Did my oldest tell them the truth? Or is it a falsehood? Of course it's false, the kids weren't able to go and yet they were told they could without being told about their messy rooms.
Withholding part of the truth becomes a lie. Even satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness with truth. But when truth is misused it's false no matter how true the scripture satan used was.
Satan told Adam and Eve truth. They didn't die physically. They did know both good and evil. But the truth was twisted by satan for his evil purpose of deception and the fall of mankind. But Adam and Eve died spiritually. Like Joel leaving out parts of the truth, satan left that part out as well.
That's what Joel is doing. He purposely leaves out anything negative he says because that's not what he's called to do.
2 Timothy 4:1,2 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
Acts 20:26,27 Therefore, I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all men. For I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God.
Cute picture by the way. Daughter?
The Lord determines what His servant is to be and what the qualifications are. Not me or you. I'm only reading God's word and Joel doesn't come up to snuff as they use to say.
He doesn't reprove, rebuke, exhort or correct. He won't.....he said he won't. It's not his calling. So if it isn't his calling, why is he preaching/teaching if he's not going to teach all of God's word?
In obedience to God and His word, he can't leave out what he doesn't like. When he isn't preaching according to God's rules, he becomes a false teacher.
So it all has nothing to do with me. I'm not telling him how to preach. God is telling him how to and he's not listening. He's saying what he wants to say. So God hasn't sent him.
I'm being obedient to God's word and I'm using His discernment.
I'm trying to warn others that there headed in the wrong direction by following a false teacher. That's all I can do.
If you all still like him, you'll still follow him. But there may be someone that doesn't know and will check out his teachings with God's word and see if he is really teaching the gospel of the kingdom or not.
That happened to me as a young believer. I didn't realize there was so much differing truths out there that all claim they're preaching God's truth. I didn't check anything out for a while until I read in the bible that we are to do so.
As an example, I tell my oldest child to tell his brothers and sister that we're going to the amusement park tomorrow at 4:00, but they must have their rooms cleaned by noon because we will leave the house at that time.
So the oldest tells the siblings about the amusement park and that we'll leave at noon, but he purposely leaves out the fact that they can't go if their rooms aren't cleaned.
Did my oldest tell them the truth? Or is it a falsehood? Of course it's false, the kids weren't able to go and yet they were told they could without being told about their messy rooms.
Withholding part of the truth becomes a lie. Even satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness with truth. But when truth is misused it's false no matter how true the scripture satan used was.
Satan told Adam and Eve truth. They didn't die physically. They did know both good and evil. But the truth was twisted by satan for his evil purpose of deception and the fall of mankind. But Adam and Eve died spiritually. Like Joel leaving out parts of the truth, satan left that part out as well.
That's what Joel is doing. He purposely leaves out anything negative he says because that's not what he's called to do.
2 Timothy 4:1,2 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
Acts 20:26,27 Therefore, I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all men. For I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God.
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If she already saw a load of twisted things he says like Jesus means nothing and still cant see it she never will.
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The commandments are in the Old Testament too. Does that mean you throw them away? And Osteen doesnt tithe, he takes tithes and keeps them for himself. And tithing in the bible was not a commandment and punishable by hell, tithing was created as an agreement that the Lord walks with you. It was started by Jacob when he promised the Lord to tithe if he walk with him always.
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I will post this for you again. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
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Sorry I am not the guy to argue with about this as I did not write the bible. I think you are going back and forth about nothing cause you are upset I told you its not my job to look everything up for you and that touched your pride.
I knew what Jesus said before you posted the verse in question the first time. Posting it over and over again will not change the fact that Jesus did NOT say that a rich man cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. I will leave you to your stubborn refusal to see what is actually written in light of other Scriptures that refute what you say. Certainly there is no perfect match there! Good night
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I knew what Jesus said before you posted the verse in question the first time. Posting it over and over again will not change the fact that Jesus did NOT say that a rich man cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. I will leave you to your stubborn refusal to see what is actually written in light of other Scriptures that refute what you say. Certainly there is no perfect match there! Good night
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