Hillsong musta lost its mind

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[video=youtube;00y-DhYRtnE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00y-DhYRtnE[/video]

Gee, I thought it was bad enough he runs with Justin Bieber. Jay-Z is serious bad news.

 
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[video=youtube;00y-DhYRtnE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00y-DhYRtnE[/video]

Gee, I thought it was bad enough he runs with Justin Bieber. Jay-Z is serious bad news.

More silly sensationalism masquerading as wisdom. Ugh.


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Pure garbage and slanderous ...


[video=youtube;00y-DhYRtnE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00y-DhYRtnE[/video]

Gee, I thought it was bad enough he runs with Justin Bieber. Jay-Z is serious bad news.

 
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Amen!

Romans 10:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.


Yes, put out by self-important, mostly envious people and swallowed by the undiscerning. Dangerous.


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Is this the Hillsong we all know? The praise and worship Hillsong? Seriously?!
Yes it is. But don't simply accept what I say or show as truth..... Be a berean, research it, it's all out there.
 
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Yes, put out by self-important, mostly envious people and swallowed by the undiscerning. Dangerous.
Pure garbage and slanderous ...
My, that's some big talk..... since you don't mind playing judge & jury , care to put some feet on those big words prove these videos wrong? The ball's in your court now. :)
 
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My, that's some big talk..... since you don't mind playing judge & jury , care to put some feet on those big words prove these videos wrong? The ball's in your court now. :)
It's the spirit of it all. Slander disguised as warning to the Body of Christ doesn't come in YouTube videos that presume to be judge and jury.


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It's the spirit of it all. Slander disguised as warning to the Body of Christ doesn't come in YouTube videos that presume to be judge and jury.
I take that to mean you're not gonna prove the videos wrong. All you guys do is go in circles judging people with absolutely no evidence. All talk & no walk.
 
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I don't waste my time with religious bigotry nor slanderous nutcases on youtube....they have a zeal for God but they have no knowledge..
 

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Definitely boring, absolutely informative.....

[video=youtube;jrs6Wzj8Plc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrs6Wzj8Plc[/video]
Nice video for the most part. One thing he should have studied a little more before putting in the entrainment section though is how the brain reacts to audio. In order to entrain brainwaves using sound, both ears need to have the same frequency input. That basically means audio entrainment is difficult or mostly impossible without using headphones. If the frequency input into either ear differs, it doesn't have the same hypnotic effect because your brainwaves can't mimic the two different frequencies at once. It will actually combine the frequencies, do some math, and create it's own frequency based on the differences. That's basically what audio entrainment does is trick the brain into mimicking the frequency input to the ears.

But we all know that music itself has it's own hypnotic effect by manipulating emotions and that alone can alter our state of mind, often causing us to experience altered consciousnesses very similar to a dream state. Same is true with the flashing light patterns. When combined, they cause a hyper charged emotional state of mind. A lot of the apostate churches rely on this in order to feign "God encounters" and to validate their flawed doctrines.

The problem with this type of atmosphere in worship is that as soon as the brain readjusts and comes back to normal (similar to coming down from a drug induced high), the experience loses it's strength in the person's mind and becomes quickly irrelevant. That means false conversions. They will crave this "encounter with God" though and go back wanting to feel it again, much like someone addicted to a drug. Both drugs and emotionally charged concerts alike overload the body and brain with endorphins and dopamine.

So what happens to the followers of these types of churches is they essentially become idolaters seeking a "feel-good encounter with God" without a strong theological backing to reinforce their over-emotional hyper charged doxology. God to them becomes an experiential based, subjective concept that they make mean whatever makes them feel good, while neglecting the objective study of God and Christology that leads to true and proper worship. In essence, they create their own feel-good god and worship it and deny the God of scripture. False converts.
 

ForthAngel

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Another side not related to entrainment:

New Age practitioners use brainwave entrainment to alter sleep patterns to try and cultivate out of body experiences so they can meet with their "spirit guides".
 
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Another side not related to entrainment:

New Age practitioners use brainwave entrainment to alter sleep patterns to try and cultivate out of body experiences so they can meet with their "spirit guides".
That's hilarious!
 
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Nice video for the most part. One thing he should have studied a little more before putting in the entrainment section though is how the brain reacts to audio. In order to entrain brainwaves using sound, both ears need to have the same frequency input. That basically means audio entrainment is difficult or mostly impossible without using headphones. If the frequency input into either ear differs, it doesn't have the same hypnotic effect because your brainwaves can't mimic the two different frequencies at once. It will actually combine the frequencies, do some math, and create it's own frequency based on the differences. That's basically what audio entrainment does is trick the brain into mimicking the frequency input to the ears.

But we all know that music itself has it's own hypnotic effect by manipulating emotions and that alone can alter our state of mind, often causing us to experience altered consciousnesses very similar to a dream state. Same is true with the flashing light patterns. When combined, they cause a hyper charged emotional state of mind. A lot of the apostate churches rely on this in order to feign "God encounters" and to validate their flawed doctrines.

The problem with this type of atmosphere in worship is that as soon as the brain readjusts and comes back to normal (similar to coming down from a drug induced high), the experience loses it's strength in the person's mind and becomes quickly irrelevant. That means false conversions. They will crave this "encounter with God" though and go back wanting to feel it again, much like someone addicted to a drug. Both drugs and emotionally charged concerts alike overload the body and brain with endorphins and dopamine.

So what happens to the followers of these types of churches is they essentially become idolaters seeking a "feel-good encounter with God" without a strong theological backing to reinforce their over-emotional hyper charged doxology. God to them becomes an experiential based, subjective concept that they make mean whatever makes them feel good, while neglecting the objective study of God and Christology that leads to true and proper worship. In essence, they create their own feel-good god and worship it and deny the God of scripture. False converts.
Now that's a load if I ever heard one!
 
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It's the spirit of it all. Slander disguised as warning to the Body of Christ doesn't come in YouTube videos that presume to be judge and jury.
And crap on about the Illuminati was if it were real.
 

ForthAngel

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Now that's a load if I ever heard one!
okay. research brainwave entrainment. a real science. elevated emotional states do mimic drug-like feelings and chemical responses in the brain as well.