Oklahoma City had Gay Pride a day before the tornado

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Elizabeth619

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Agricola said:
Its not a "political thing" as in siding with politicians, its all about actions against Israel. The genesis covenant, those who curse will be cursed. Kerry lands in Israel to try and get Israel to give up land in West Bank, within hours of landing Oklahoma is hit. IF you dont want to accept it then so be it, but denial dosnt make it go away.
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Taking different occursnces and attempting to throw them together to make your own assessment as to why disasters happen does not provide fact.
Saying a tornado happened because of Israel, gays or anything else is purely opinion.
God does control our weather. He has used weather as punishment and as a reward. No matter why certain disasters happen one thing that is true is it should bring us closer to God.

Pointing fingers and placing blame will not bring people closer to God but divide them more. Especially when you have NO factual evidence to prove your case.
 
Agricola

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I provided evidence from Bible that God made a covenant, which can never be broken, that those who curse the nation of Israel and Jews will be cursed and equally those that bless will be blessed.

I provided references to where God punished the nation of Israel and the people, incuding many deaths for the actions of its King.

I provided a list of the major disasters with dates and specific events which occurred just prior to those disasters, all of which invovled Israel giving up land.

Now, if you want to claim I have no factual evidence, then go ahead, but the truth is I have provided factual evidence backed up by what is written in the Bible. They are not just random things thrown together, If the number of these co-incidences were only two or three and the events leading up to them varied from chalk and cheese, then yes, people would have the right to say it is just fabricated ad made up.

However its not. Time and time and time again we see Nations try to interfere with Israel and make Israel give up land, or come out with open support for the enemies, which then results in devastation for that nation.

God is sending clear messages to the nations around the world, but most people ignore it and dont want to see it, just look at the responses on here, but that's nothing new either, many prophets bringing messages were ignored, just as people ignore God, even so called believers.
 
JesusChica1991

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The Israel from the Bible times has been scattered. It's not the same Israel it used to be. Also, the Israel the OT was referring to mostly was the spiritual Israel before the Gentiles were included.
 
Agricola

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If you want to believe replacement theology and think we are in the 1000 year rule of christ, or other nonsence and try and convince yourself that the physical is really talking about spiritual then go ahead,

The Israel from Bible Times is back again. read Ezekiel chapter 4, look at Leviticus 26 and see about 7 times punishment, Jews were exiled for 2520 years without a leader to rule over their own nation, the 2520 years ended and Israel became nation again in 1948.


I still stand by the facts, which speak for themselves, the evidence is simple plain and clear, yet becuase it makes people afraid, angry or uncomfortable, it has to be explained away.

The facts are that is whenever there is a negotiation for peace which involves Israel giving up land, bad things happen, making it go away or change simply by debating different version of theology will not work as facts are facts,
 
thecreationtutor

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wonder what God will do to those Christians who abort their babies since polls indicate 1 in 3 have one
 
RedTent

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JesusChica1991 said:
The Israel from the Bible times has been scattered. It's not the same Israel it used to be. Also, the Israel the OT was referring to mostly was the spiritual Israel before the Gentiles were included.
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God created the Hebrews to show us His principles. Those principles were true the day our world was created, they stayed true all through time as we know it. It is shown in the OT that God is patient and kind, and it shows that His patience comes to an end. That is a principle of God that is unchanging.

When God gave warnings in the OT, people reacted to it the same way we react today. Almost everyone did not take the happening as a warning when that in fact was what it was. God has many reasons for different happenings, that something isn't done as a warning ever is just not so.

It isn't only the homosexuals who distort sex, it is done by almost everyone. Almost everyone in our world hasn't a clue about what sex is in actuality. Sex education is given to our kids in school by people who know nothing of how God created it, or what it is.
 
Nautilus

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RedTent, its not like the church does a better job at explaining se to children. They hide so many facets of it under a taboo blanket that general knowlege after that consists of after marriage missionary style to make a baby...
 
RedTent

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Nautilus said:
RedTent, its not like the church does a better job at explaining se to children. They hide so many facets of it under a taboo blanket that general knowlege after that consists of after marriage missionary style to make a baby...
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It is the bible that gives the facts about sex, not men even if they use a church for their interpretation. What people say it is doesn't affect in the least what it is.
 
Nautilus

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id still like to see proof of these bible facts...im saying they arent there
 
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