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I was confused by your statement that Christians go to doctors yet end up dying anyway. Kinda inferred that if you go to Christ instead for healing you won't suffer that fate. God never promised full health here and now, and you malign many good saints who suffer despite (or as God often said because of) their faith. Be careful, God has a way of 'educating' us on such things.
You obviously do not know the New Covenant very well and what Jesus paid for us to have.
I'm walking in His promise of health / healing, but you can be sick if you'd like.
It doesn't bother me since you have access to God's Word and apparently either don't know what's in it or refuse to believe what God promised due to the finished work of Jesus Christ.
Yes, I have seen numerous Christians I have known personally... get sick... call everyone they know in fear asking for everyone to pray for them... go to the doc and jump thru all their hoops, and end up like the lady Jesus healed who had spent all her money on doctors and had only grown worse...
Jesus is still making Himself available to heal, but these folks I've known put their focus on what man can do and they died.
That's too bad to see satan snuff out lives so young. Sad...
Yeah, God is not putting sickness on His children... that would be child abuse!
But, if you want to believe sickness is a blessing... enjoy!
Jesus never told anyone that their sickness was a gift from God and they'll have to suffer with it... NEVER!
Listening to what men think about what God will and will not do is a very grave mistake.
Why not just go to the Source and believe Him???
I'm walking in His promise of health / healing, but you can be sick if you'd like.
It doesn't bother me since you have access to God's Word and apparently either don't know what's in it or refuse to believe what God promised due to the finished work of Jesus Christ.
Yes, I have seen numerous Christians I have known personally... get sick... call everyone they know in fear asking for everyone to pray for them... go to the doc and jump thru all their hoops, and end up like the lady Jesus healed who had spent all her money on doctors and had only grown worse...
Jesus is still making Himself available to heal, but these folks I've known put their focus on what man can do and they died.
That's too bad to see satan snuff out lives so young. Sad...
Yeah, God is not putting sickness on His children... that would be child abuse!
But, if you want to believe sickness is a blessing... enjoy!
Jesus never told anyone that their sickness was a gift from God and they'll have to suffer with it... NEVER!
Listening to what men think about what God will and will not do is a very grave mistake.
Why not just go to the Source and believe Him???
They way you dodge the question and answered with a non-answer... you should run for political office!
And, the idea that hitler or other mad men where Christians is laughable... they obviously were not followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
liberal nutjobs are anti-christs who always seek to discredit the Lord Jesus.
And, the idea that hitler or other mad men where Christians is laughable... they obviously were not followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
liberal nutjobs are anti-christs who always seek to discredit the Lord Jesus.
There you go again... listening to the devil!
Those that do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles (the original ones, minus Judas, plus Paul)... and not real Christians.
satanic liberals aid and abet satan and his demons by telling lies against Christians to encourage the masses to stay away from Jesus which leads them to hell.
Why would you want to caucus with devils???
Are you like into curious arts er something?
Those that do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles (the original ones, minus Judas, plus Paul)... and not real Christians.
satanic liberals aid and abet satan and his demons by telling lies against Christians to encourage the masses to stay away from Jesus which leads them to hell.
Why would you want to caucus with devils???
Are you like into curious arts er something?
There you go again... listening to the devil!
Those that do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles (the original ones, minus Judas, plus Paul)... and not real Christians.
satanic liberals aid and abet satan and his demons by telling lies against Christians to encourage the masses to stay away from Jesus which leads them to hell.
Why would you want to caucus with devils???
Are you like into curious arts er something?
Those that do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles (the original ones, minus Judas, plus Paul)... and not real Christians.
satanic liberals aid and abet satan and his demons by telling lies against Christians to encourage the masses to stay away from Jesus which leads them to hell.
Why would you want to caucus with devils???
Are you like into curious arts er something?
You in cynicism and hatred for the truth call them liberals. But if you troubled yourself to read the New Testament you would learn that the Pharisees among others were considered the conservatives of their time. Since they parallel you so much, you need to be mindful that Jesus called your kind the "generation of vipers" so that it is your kind that are devils according to the NT.
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The health care debate has shifted to the GOP — and most people don’t like what they see, poll says
Move over, “Obamacare.” The health care debate has shifted to ideas from President Donald Trump and GOP lawmakers in Congress, and most people don’t like what they see.
With Republicans in command, their health care proposals as currently formulated have generated far more concern than enthusiasm.
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Even among rank-and-file Republicans, there’s opposition to changes that would let insurers charge higher premiums to older adults, and many disapprove of cuts to Medicaid for low-income people, according to a recent poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. It also found more than half of Republicans at least somewhat worried about leaving more people uninsured, as the House plan is projected to do.
March polls by Fox News and Quinnipiac University showed overall margins of opposition to the GOP bill nearing or even exceeding those of the Obama-era Affordable Care Act, or ACA, at its lowest points — such as when the HealthCare.gov website went live in 2013 and promptly crashed.
“Republicans are taking ownership of the health care issue, and all the pleasure and pain of health reform,” said Drew Altman, president of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation, which tracks the health care system. “There has been a shift in focus from the ACA itself to the Republican plans, and who might lose benefits as a result.”
Poll: Americans dislike GOP’s, Trump’s plan on health care
Highlighting the stakes, the uninsured rate among U.S. adults rose slightly in the first three months of this year, according to Monday’s update of a major ongoing survey. The Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index found that 11.3 percent of adults were uninsured, an increase from 10.9 percent in the last two calendar quarters of 2016.
“Only time will tell” if the uptick means the U.S. is again losing ground on health insurance, said survey director Dan Witters.
“A lot of uncertainty has been introduced into the marketplace through efforts to repeal,” Witters added. “That will scare people off who have real reason to believe that the ACA won’t even exist in a year. Plus premiums are now realizing a big jump for the first time in the ACA era, so some folks may be priced out of the market even with income-based subsidies.”
Trump came into office with big, bold promises. In a Washington Post interview shortly before his inauguration he declared his goal was “insurance for everybody,” hand-in-hand with affordable coverage, “lower numbers, much lower deductibles.” Although Trump said he’d soon release a plan, none appeared.
Instead, after weeks of laboring behind closed doors, House Republican leaders rolled out a proposal March 6 that the president enthusiastically embraced. But all the efforts of the White House and congressional leadership haven’t convinced GOP lawmakers to pass it. Congress is on a two-week break with the bill in limbo.
WATCH: Spicer says President Trump optimistic about health care reform
Frustrated, Trump is seeing his promise slip away to quickly repeal “Obamacare” and replace it with something better. Instead he could get left as the caretaker of the ACA, a law he’s repeatedly called a “disaster” on account of rising premiums and insurer exits that diminish consumer choice in many communities.
Trump’s personal image has taken a blow, with the AP-NORC poll finding that he gets his worst rating on health care. About 6 in 10 people disapprove of how the president has handled the issue.
“It is a major failure that a high priority of President Trump and the congressional Republican leadership leads to no bill, and the bill as proposed becomes unpopular even among their own voters,” said Robert Blendon, a professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, who follows opinion trends on health care. “It’s a real leadership crisis issue.”
Amid disapproval of the House GOP plan, some polls have shown improved ratings for the ACA. Gallup, for example, found “Obamacare” gained majority approval for the first time. But Republican voters remain overwhelmingly opposed to former President Barack Obama’s signature law and want it repealed.
There’s recent evidence that Republicans differ among themselves about what “repeal” of the Affordable Care Act may mean.
Nonetheless, there’s recent evidence that Republicans differ among themselves about what “repeal” may mean.
A Quinnipiac poll last month found that 55 percent of Republicans said Trump and the Republican-led Congress should repeal “parts” of the ACA, while 42 percent said “all” of it should go. Only 2 percent of Republicans said the law should not be repealed.
Republican views compare with 50 percent of the general public who say parts of the ACA should be repealed, 20 percent who say all of it should be repealed, and 27 percent who say it should remain.
The divisions among rank-and-file Republicans appear to mirror those in the House, where disagreements among hardliners and moderates are keeping Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., from taking the bill to the floor.
Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll, said, “You have to figure a lot of people who voted for Trump are on Obamacare.”
The health care debate has shifted to the GOP -- and most people don't like what they see, poll says | PBS NewsHour
After 8 years these Republicans simply cannot formulate a rational, working plan. This party is incapable of creating solutions to the problems they create. We are still awaiting Trump's promised health care for all to be fulfilled.
The health care debate has shifted to the GOP — and most people don’t like what they see, poll says
Move over, “Obamacare.” The health care debate has shifted to ideas from President Donald Trump and GOP lawmakers in Congress, and most people don’t like what they see.
With Republicans in command, their health care proposals as currently formulated have generated far more concern than enthusiasm.
RELATED CONTENT
Even among rank-and-file Republicans, there’s opposition to changes that would let insurers charge higher premiums to older adults, and many disapprove of cuts to Medicaid for low-income people, according to a recent poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. It also found more than half of Republicans at least somewhat worried about leaving more people uninsured, as the House plan is projected to do.
March polls by Fox News and Quinnipiac University showed overall margins of opposition to the GOP bill nearing or even exceeding those of the Obama-era Affordable Care Act, or ACA, at its lowest points — such as when the HealthCare.gov website went live in 2013 and promptly crashed.
“Republicans are taking ownership of the health care issue, and all the pleasure and pain of health reform,” said Drew Altman, president of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation, which tracks the health care system. “There has been a shift in focus from the ACA itself to the Republican plans, and who might lose benefits as a result.”
Poll: Americans dislike GOP’s, Trump’s plan on health care
Highlighting the stakes, the uninsured rate among U.S. adults rose slightly in the first three months of this year, according to Monday’s update of a major ongoing survey. The Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index found that 11.3 percent of adults were uninsured, an increase from 10.9 percent in the last two calendar quarters of 2016.
“Only time will tell” if the uptick means the U.S. is again losing ground on health insurance, said survey director Dan Witters.
“A lot of uncertainty has been introduced into the marketplace through efforts to repeal,” Witters added. “That will scare people off who have real reason to believe that the ACA won’t even exist in a year. Plus premiums are now realizing a big jump for the first time in the ACA era, so some folks may be priced out of the market even with income-based subsidies.”
Trump came into office with big, bold promises. In a Washington Post interview shortly before his inauguration he declared his goal was “insurance for everybody,” hand-in-hand with affordable coverage, “lower numbers, much lower deductibles.” Although Trump said he’d soon release a plan, none appeared.
Instead, after weeks of laboring behind closed doors, House Republican leaders rolled out a proposal March 6 that the president enthusiastically embraced. But all the efforts of the White House and congressional leadership haven’t convinced GOP lawmakers to pass it. Congress is on a two-week break with the bill in limbo.
WATCH: Spicer says President Trump optimistic about health care reform
Frustrated, Trump is seeing his promise slip away to quickly repeal “Obamacare” and replace it with something better. Instead he could get left as the caretaker of the ACA, a law he’s repeatedly called a “disaster” on account of rising premiums and insurer exits that diminish consumer choice in many communities.
Trump’s personal image has taken a blow, with the AP-NORC poll finding that he gets his worst rating on health care. About 6 in 10 people disapprove of how the president has handled the issue.
“It is a major failure that a high priority of President Trump and the congressional Republican leadership leads to no bill, and the bill as proposed becomes unpopular even among their own voters,” said Robert Blendon, a professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, who follows opinion trends on health care. “It’s a real leadership crisis issue.”
Amid disapproval of the House GOP plan, some polls have shown improved ratings for the ACA. Gallup, for example, found “Obamacare” gained majority approval for the first time. But Republican voters remain overwhelmingly opposed to former President Barack Obama’s signature law and want it repealed.
There’s recent evidence that Republicans differ among themselves about what “repeal” of the Affordable Care Act may mean.
Nonetheless, there’s recent evidence that Republicans differ among themselves about what “repeal” may mean.
A Quinnipiac poll last month found that 55 percent of Republicans said Trump and the Republican-led Congress should repeal “parts” of the ACA, while 42 percent said “all” of it should go. Only 2 percent of Republicans said the law should not be repealed.
Republican views compare with 50 percent of the general public who say parts of the ACA should be repealed, 20 percent who say all of it should be repealed, and 27 percent who say it should remain.
The divisions among rank-and-file Republicans appear to mirror those in the House, where disagreements among hardliners and moderates are keeping Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., from taking the bill to the floor.
Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll, said, “You have to figure a lot of people who voted for Trump are on Obamacare.”
The health care debate has shifted to the GOP -- and most people don't like what they see, poll says | PBS NewsHour
After 8 years these Republicans simply cannot formulate a rational, working plan. This party is incapable of creating solutions to the problems they create. We are still awaiting Trump's promised health care for all to be fulfilled.
Yeah so you are a baby killin liberal... clueless.
How's that working out for ya?
Is it true that someone left a folder on your front porch that said "DO NOT BEND" and it took you hours to figure out how to pick it up?
Yeah, so enjoy your time rooting for the satanists... and don't forget to get'cha obama cares
How's that working out for ya?
Is it true that someone left a folder on your front porch that said "DO NOT BEND" and it took you hours to figure out how to pick it up?
Yeah, so enjoy your time rooting for the satanists... and don't forget to get'cha obama cares
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Yeah so you are a baby killin liberal... clueless.
How's that working out for ya?
Is it true that someone left a folder on your front porch that said "DO NOT BEND" and it took you hours to figure out how to pick it up?
Yeah, so enjoy your time rooting for the satanists... and don't forget to get'cha obama cares
How's that working out for ya?
Is it true that someone left a folder on your front porch that said "DO NOT BEND" and it took you hours to figure out how to pick it up?
Yeah, so enjoy your time rooting for the satanists... and don't forget to get'cha obama cares
Just a question here..............WHY so intent on blaming Liberals for the legalization of Abortions? By my count, there have been at least 3 Republican Presidents since the passage of Roe v. Wade.......and at least two instances when the Republicans were in control of Congress............AND RIGHT NOW.........they have the Presidency and both Houses of Congress........and, yet.............Abortion is STILL the Law of the Land.......
Seems to me there is plenty of blame to go around.............
Seems to me there is plenty of blame to go around.............
Yeah so you are a baby killin liberal... clueless.
How's that working out for ya?
Is it true that someone left a folder on your front porch that said "DO NOT BEND" and it took you hours to figure out how to pick it up?
Yeah, so enjoy your time rooting for the satanists... and don't forget to get'cha obama cares
How's that working out for ya?
Is it true that someone left a folder on your front porch that said "DO NOT BEND" and it took you hours to figure out how to pick it up?
Yeah, so enjoy your time rooting for the satanists... and don't forget to get'cha obama cares
Irritating baby killers is always fun!
Thank you for sharing your erroneous opinion..
Yes, because there's this idea that once the Supreme Court of the United States rules on a matter, it is considered settled law, never to be reversed.
It matters not if a law is passed making murdering innocent little babies to be illegal when the SCOTUS is just going to rule that the law is unconstitutional.
This is why those that murder babies and those that support those that murder babies... will face the wrath of God Who HATES the shedding of innocent blood (Proverbs 6:16-19)
Those that do evil and those that take pleasure (agreement) in those that do evil... according to the Lord are worthy of death (Romans 1:32)
When Jesus Christ arrives to start His 1000 year reign... ain't gonna be no baby killers cause they and those that support them will all be in heLL being tormented in the eternal flames
You liberals should repent for the sin of supporting baby killers and ask the Lord to have mercy on your dark soul and turn away from the darkness that is celebrated in your idol's political platform.
It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God (Hebrews 10:31)... not that you would care...
Thank you for sharing your erroneous opinion..
Yes, because there's this idea that once the Supreme Court of the United States rules on a matter, it is considered settled law, never to be reversed.
It matters not if a law is passed making murdering innocent little babies to be illegal when the SCOTUS is just going to rule that the law is unconstitutional.
This is why those that murder babies and those that support those that murder babies... will face the wrath of God Who HATES the shedding of innocent blood (Proverbs 6:16-19)
Those that do evil and those that take pleasure (agreement) in those that do evil... according to the Lord are worthy of death (Romans 1:32)
When Jesus Christ arrives to start His 1000 year reign... ain't gonna be no baby killers cause they and those that support them will all be in heLL being tormented in the eternal flames
You liberals should repent for the sin of supporting baby killers and ask the Lord to have mercy on your dark soul and turn away from the darkness that is celebrated in your idol's political platform.
It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God (Hebrews 10:31)... not that you would care...
It serves to prove his ignorance, hate, and blindness to the truth.
He fails to understand that I am a pro lifer and have repeated this multiple times. But he fails to see it because of his blindness to the truth. He persists in trying to make this thread about me rather than the subject at hand because he has lost the debate and will NEVER win it no matter how hard he tries to do so through his endless distractions. I have already supplied all the evidence to substantiate the fact that it was the Republicans who voted as they did in Roe and in Casey. Whether he likes it or not it remains the TRUTH.
CASE CLOSED.
Trump called himself the great deal maker. While his party controls both chambers of Congress, his failure to repeal ACA was because he offered no viable alternative to it. Of course, his party has had numerous years to develop an alternate health care plan (one they initially offered in the early decade of the 20th century) but they have declined to follow through.
Secondly, when he means banning Muslims, he means those like ISIS and other terrorist groups and followers of those groups who want to commit what they call jihad against Westerners, Christians, and other Muslims they don't call Muslim enough. In fact there were Muslims who wanted Donald Trump to institute such a ban. The first executive order was not a Muslim ban, you can read that first executive order online. The second executive order is also not a Muslim ban. Not listening to the neo-liberal mainstream media.
Thirdly, he is still working on repealing and replacing Obamacare, he just did not realize it was complicated as it is. He said a similar thing working on that ice rink in New York.
Fourthly, building a wall will protect our country, provide safety for its citizens, etc. Mexico should pay for it since a lot of the Mexican presidents have been haters of the U.S. They can't seem to calm down the Mexican drug cartels, gangs, etc that are messing up that country. Not to mention they have a state, Chiapas, which is more like its own country than a state in Mexico.
Fifthly, the American people were not as upset that Barack Obama played golf. It is when he decided to play golf after terrorist attacks occurred instead of speaking to the American people as soon as they happened. Donald Trump is doing his presidential deals on the golf course so he is not just playing golf, he is being president of the U.S. There is a difference and it matters.
Then, Hillary does need to be investigated for the lies on Benghazi, what she did for her husband as well when he was president, how she has treated those women who really were sexually molested by her husband, etc. She should be in jail right now if it were not for the spineless James Comey, who is not doing his job.
Also, there would be no cuts to Medicare, even in the first rendition of a new healthcare act to replace Obamacare, Medicare was not cut and the next one will not have cuts either. So what you said is false.
He is still trying to drain the swamp, he just did not realize how big the swamp was. Hiring an oil baron and a Wall Street insider is not replacing the swamp with friends. A lot of these people he has selected are not selected just because they are his friends but the skill sets they have as well.
His salary is still low, so he still wishes he could refuse a salary. I know some or at least a lot of it is being used for charitable purposes.
He tried to get the Keystone pipeline, which would help America be energy independent instead of being energy dependent on countries such as Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, etc (we need to have a balance in energy sources no just green energy). The American steel would be a nice touch but sadly the plan did not work. This happens when you are president or even just a businessman like Donald Trump was and is.
Finally, based on the spying that the Obama administration indeed is doing and still is doing on the Trump administration since he became the presidential nominee of the Republican Party till now, he indeed has been wiretapped using the modern technology that they now have available, they are doing that to us but I am not afraid of it unless it is used for unlawful purposes. Rice, Clapper, Comey, as well as others are going after Trump. This is a fact no matter what the neo-liberal news media is saying, if Clinton had become president they would not have gone after as they are doing with Trump. For news on this check out the American Center for Law and Justice, Jay Sekulow Live, Fox News, Heritage Foundation, World Magazine, and they are probably more. Obama deserves a lot of the blame and so the mainstream media who are pushing their audience to believe what they are saying and even using deceptive language like ABC World News that they let you "see the whole picture", which is not true at all. They are going after him with a false Russian connection to smear him. They would not do a similar thing if Hillary Clinton were president, who they want to coronate since the very divisive, presidential election we happened last year and still has repercussions even today.
So a lot of what you have said is false and is not true. As for Utah or whoever it was saying how many movies do people who call themselves liberals die? The reason he said is one he does not like that political party and too, if you look closely at the movies we have, there are caricatures of conservatives, who are killed a lot in these movies. So he had a valid point not agreeing with a messed up thing like the Purge in a horror movie of that same name. I am not a Trump apologist or a Trump supporter. I voted for him based on what he did as well as what he said and I have yet to see a significant lie come from his lips or his tweets yet. I prayed a lot during the presidential election about whether I could support him after Cruz dropped out. Then I voted for him and I want people to give him a chance, I gave Obama a chance and then during this presidential election I read a book based on facts that were true. Contrary to the mainstream media, alternative facts are not lies, they are instead what the media should be reporting and not the so-called ''facts'' that they are doing now. Now, I wish that there was less division in this country even with the differences of opinion on both sides. I love you all my brothers and sisters in Christ. I want less mudslinging and more real unity and brotherhood (according to the Bible not communism) in Christ. More looking for the truth and investigating of one's own. God bless. Have a beautiful day!
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First, President Trump said he would defeat ISIS in 30 days because he thought it would be easy but as soon as he became president he realized it was not that simple, he is still keeping a promise. He said a similar thing when it came to an ice rink in New York.
Secondly, when he means banning Muslims ... More looking for the truth and investigating of one's own. God bless. Have a beautiful day!
Secondly, when he means banning Muslims ... More looking for the truth and investigating of one's own. God bless. Have a beautiful day!
All those issues have been previously addressed on this and other threads. Nice try but you have added nothing new.
As for Utah's stated desire to see liberals die, he has mentioned this TWICE. Therefore, he is not kidding nor making light of the subject. I do hope God forgives him but it will not happen unless and until he repents of his hate. As stated previously by another poster, haters gonna hate ...
We still await the fulfillment of Trump's stated pledge that ''every American will be covered by health care insurance". If he has any integrity at all, he will present some proof of this.
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