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Tell me one person in this age that you know for a fact that was killed by police for no other reason than being black.
Oh come on, last year that guy that stole cigarettes, but also a bunch who are innocent and in prison because someone said: that's him 'cause they all look alike to them.
 
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I'm still waiting for the names of people killed for being black.
You mean recently, or will a list of lynchings work for you? PLENTY of people have been killed historically just for being BLACK.
 
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I'm still waiting for the names of people killed for being black.
Walter Scott comes to mind. Freddie Gray, etc. The list is too long to name all of them .I can give you more names if you like. Tamir Rice. The little boy that got shot by police for playing with a toy gun. The white supremacist that called 911 on the little boy even said in the 911 call that he thinks it is most likely a toy gun. But the popos trigger finger was itching that day. But your in denial. I only posted this so others could see it. I could post all the names but it would take a long time. Google is your friend.
 
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I agree to that. no matter ones color, but you and I both not all acted that way.
If whites intimidating blacks is wrong then it is wrong for blacks to intimidate whites. If whites ARE targeting blacks then take a stand. Don't just target someone because they are white. That happens a lot. I mentioned on here once before a black man tried to cost me my job a few years back because I asked for his ID when he presented me a credit card for purchase. He complained to corporate about me and said it was because he was African American.
Nevermind that is was store policy that everyone at that time had to present ID when using a credit card.
That's unfortunate but very understandable. They are just treated different by a lot of white people. A guy from church is black. I accidentally saw how they treated him in the train. Just insane and only because he's black. A guy in a grocery store recently. She asked him what was in his bag to see if he stole something and of course he didn't. Never ever has someone asked me in a grocery shop to show my bag with things from another supermarket in it.
 
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It's ridiculous to claim that stereotypes come from "honest facts." Stereotypes come from the globalization of limited observable behavior. For example, the stereotype of black male teens as CRIMINALS is not factual. There is no genetic predisposition to criminal behavior within black males. However, what does contribute to the criminal behavior of any sort of male (or female, for that matter) is POVERTY. So, people associate ideas with "blackness" that actual arise from POVERTY. They're not deriving some kind of common sense or "aw shucks" wisdom from "facts." People are actually making assumptions and then globalizing their false assumptions. When this is done in the media (again...back to the black teen males), then everyone gets an "idea" that they RATIONALIZE is "based on facts."

We could just as easily consider white men in suits to be criminals based on the behavior of various Wall Street sorts and politicians. There is JUST as much "actual experience" with that....but somehow we don't. These folks aren't constantly presented as criminals in the media, so we don't cross the street when we see a white man in a suit coming...although, he might be the one more likely to rob you of everything when it comes down to it.
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Alot of stereotypes are perpetuated through television, and movies. Sometimes this is on purpose from what I hear because of racism in hollywood. But I've never been to California or anything like that so I'm going by word of mouth.
 
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The simple point is that you will not walk as comfortably down the street in the center of one particular part of town at night as you will in another. Why?

I don't give a hoot what "causes" it.... It all still remains as a fact.
 
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The simple point is that you will not walk as comfortably down the street in the center of one particular part of town at night as you will in another. Why?
Because poverty stricken areas tend to be uncomfortable for most scaredy cats. : p
 
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I'm probably one of the few, if not the only, white person here who was raised by a black woman. And I can sure see this. I think a lot of people are just trying to act like they are color blind.
 

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Instead of blaming someone for being a racist, we should make a commitment not to be one ourselves. If every Christian practiced God's commandment of love, racism would disappear from our lives. JMHO!
 
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I'm probably one of the few, if not the only, white person here who was raised by a black woman. And I can sure see this. I think a lot of people are just trying to act like they are color blind.
Yeah...I don't believe it's possible to be "colorblind"...plus I think it's dehumanizing. Someone's ethnicity and culture is an important part of their identity.

I have, btw, walked alone as a single female in "dicey" neighborhoods...at night. (To be honest, I've lived most of my life in these "dicey" neighborhoods). I'm not necessarily complimenting myself by saying this. I'm often just that naive. In my thirties I would go dancing in Dallas once a week. I was too frugal (read cheap here) to pay for valet, so I'd park my car in the surrounding neighborhood and walk to the venue. It was a "neighborhood of color" (black and Hispanic) made of working-class and poor folk. I'd park and walk in 10ish and walk back to my car 2ish. I thought nothing of doing this until several months in a white, female, married church friend questioned me about how safe it was. It hadn't occurred to me that it might be unsafe. It hadn't ever felt unsafe. No one had ever approached me in a scary way. I had a few moments of insecurity, but then realized that this was her issue...not mine. SHE would have felt unsafe doing what I was doing. I decided I didn't need to be obliged to mold myself to her feelings....so, I kept on as I had before.

Even now I own a home in an "ethnic" part of town. Primarily because it was the most lovely home within my price range (my best friend had urged me to buy a cookie-cutter house in her very middle class neighborhood). My price range as a single public school educator just happens to coincide with a lot of ethnic folk. I've never felt unsafe in my neighborhood. Heck, half the time my back door is unlocked. So, for me it's not really an issue of race...it's just a manifestation of my refusal to walk around in fear of plain old folks.

Now, having said that, I do not live in an area that is crime-ridden. THIS also makes a difference in attitude. Part of why I can live with confidence is because I live in a safe location. I'd be the first one to admit that my attitude would likely be different if I lived in a location where my car was constantly broken into, or everyone had bars on their windows, or drug deals were openly happening on the corners as children walked to school.
 

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Oh come on, last year that guy that stole cigarettes, but also a bunch who are innocent and in prison because someone said: that's him 'cause they all look alike to them.
Misidentifying someone is not what I'm saying. Tell me one person that was for a fact killed by police for being black
 

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You mean recently, or will a list of lynchings work for you? PLENTY of people have been killed historically just for being BLACK.
My original comment said in this age. I'm not referring to slave days. I'm well aware people have been killed due to race, religion and sexual orientation. I am asking dude to mention one person who has been killed by police for just being black
 

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Sandra Bland was essentially pulled from her car and beaten for smoking while black
 

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Walter Scott comes to mind. Freddie Gray, etc. The list is too long to name all of them .I can give you more names if you like. Tamir Rice. The little boy that got shot by police for playing with a toy gun. The white supremacist that called 911 on the little boy even said in the 911 call that he thinks it is most likely a toy gun. But the popos trigger finger was itching that day. But your in denial. I only posted this so others could see it. I could post all the names but it would take a long time. Google is your friend.
Yet every one you mentioned was about instances that led to their deaths. I'm not defending the police here and not justifying their deaths, but had Walter Scott for example not fled on foot then he probably would be alive today. None of these are "because they were black"
 
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Instead of blaming someone for being a racist, we should make a commitment not to be one ourselves. If every Christian practiced God's commandment of love, racism would disappear from our lives. JMHO!
This is a good point, and I was just saying the same thing to my wife not two hours ago. But, I said, racism stays at the forefront mainly because of Al and Jessie, and others like them (both black and white)... not to even bring the present administration into it. Too many people in this country do not want racism to go away, it's too effective a tool for many agendas.
 
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It is difficult to know for sure why somebody is pulling the trigger. I think fear is a keyword here. Whenever a human being is encountering a person he or she knows is a possible threat, the question is how to stay alive. Now, even if the person representing a threat is not being violent, or not even fleeing, your body is so full of adrenaline that thinking clearly is difficult. Your only concern is to make sure the threat is removed. Unfortunately to some that means open fire.
 
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I don't know that anyone is killed by the police for just one reason. However, being black does figure into how many police officers respond to certain people. Teenagers in a group....silly and annoying. Black male teens in a group...likely criminal. These stereotypes don't just go away because someone has a badge. I've known perfectly nice white folks who'd cross the street if a young black man was approaching from the other direction, but they wouldn't if it were a white young man.

Btw, the Implicit Association Test (link is included later) is a great way for people to discover their hidden race preferences. According to the stats generated by this tool, 80% of whites show a preference for whites. This means we attribute VIRTUOUS things to whites--words like love, peace, joy--and FEARFUL things with blacks--words like terrible, failure, and evil.

People like to pretend that they can live in culture where all the media around them constantly favors white in a variety of ways and they are somehow magically unaffected by it. We aren't...and neither are police officers. So, it's probable that no blacks were shot ONLY because they were black, it's equally possible that being black creates a kind of anticipated danger or anxiety in some cops that leads to trigger fingers and unfortunate deaths.

Here's the link if you want to take the test yourself:

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/
Our Chief of Police is black. And he openly states that the black part of our city eats up the majority of his resources. And that he gets the least cooperation from supposedly upstanding black citizens.
 
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My original comment said in this age. I'm not referring to slave days. I'm well aware people have been killed due to race, religion and sexual orientation. I am asking dude to mention one person who has been killed by police for just being black
I'm not trying to be offensive, but the very idea that lynchings only happened during "slave days" (which ended in 1865 mind you) is just ridiculous. The last lynching happened in 1968.....NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT. Say that once more with me...1968. I was BORN in 1970.

As for black folks being killed by police just for being black, PLENTY of that happened during the Civil Rights Movement. For example, BLOODY SUNDAY...March 7, 1965.

I have a feeling, however, that you want to make the assertion that in the "last few years" this hasn't happened. Again, that's not accurate.

In 2015, William Chapman was killed in a Walmart parking lot. The officer who killed him was charged with murder for killing him.

Freddie Gray died from injuries sustained during a ride in a police van...six officers have been charged with crimes including murder.

Matthew Ojibade's girlfriend called 911 to take him to the hospital because he was having a manic episode. Instead, they arrested him and took him to a detention center where he was put in a restraining chair because the Sheriff's Office claimed he fought with the officers. He died in the restraining chair. One deputy was convicted of cruelty to an inmate, another of PUBLIC RECORDS FRAUD and three counts of perjury.

This is from a report in the New York Times (link at the bottom).

A fairer analysis [of the data], at ProPublica, found that black males aged 15 to 19 were 21 times more likely to be killed by police than white males in that age group.

And The Washington Post reports that unarmed black men were seven times more likely to be killed by police this year than unarmed white men.

It's easy for someone who is white to claim, "that just doesn't happen." Effectively then, stories from blacks about police violence and brutality are "lies" or "exaggerated." Blacks, it seems, are not reliable storytellers. Whereas WHITES are very very reliable storytellers. When a white person says, "It had NOTHING to do with race!" they couldn't possibly be living in denial, or lying, or (ahem) whitewashing.

So it comes down to a bit of a we-said/they-said. 80% of whites display a white preference. You think that's meaningless? You think that has NO BEARING on what stories are believed?