Bloodbath in Gaza

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RachelBibleStudent

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personally i think it is hard to take seriously accusations of 'unbridled aggression' when the supposed 'aggressor' has agreed to three truces in twelve days...truces their supposed 'victims' have virtually disregarded all three times...
 
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Richie_2uk

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The problem is not about the agreement of truces, the problem is that they not doing anything about the truces, all they seem to be doing is just saying truces and not actually doing it, in meant time lots of innocent people are dieing,
 
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personally i think it is hard to take seriously accusations of 'unbridled aggression' when the supposed 'aggressor' has agreed to three truces in twelve days...truces their supposed 'victims' have virtually disregarded all three times...
The UK newspapers reported that it was Israel who broke the truce, and pictures are coming here with people in Israeli Military uniforms using Palestinian people as shields.
 
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actually you are describing the -past- of this conflict...this is like the third time we have seen the same thing happen...

although this time it seems like public opinion in israel is overwhelmingly in favor of ending this cycle instead of just letting it go into its next iteration...and whether or not netanyahu actually realizes it...it seems that his continuation as prime minister may depend on whether or not he listens...
I doubt this is the case. The Israelis I know are in support of a peaceful solution, but they also realize that there isn't a whole lot of peaceful negotiating that can be done with a militant group whose sole mission is to exterminate the Israelis and wipe them off the face of the earth.

Prime Minister Netanyahu is in a bind because of how unpopular the conflict is, and also due to the impossibility of any compromise being reached. There can't be a peaceful end to this because one side does not want a peaceful end. It's as simple as that, so while some of the Israelis may not like this ongoing conflict in Gaza, I think the majority realize that there is no way around it. Israels neighbors have been less than kind and they certainly don't appreciate their presence in the world... they've been trying to kill them off since the end of World War II, and even long before then.

Who can fault Netanyahu for protecting his people in the face of adversity such as this? That's what he believes he is doing and I don't see what else he could do to be proactive in peace keeping and protecting his people. It's sad that there has to be any bloodshed at all, but it can't be helped. Israel has to be strong for this.
 
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Pottyone

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Palestine is a land which, like it or not, God promised to the children of Israel. It is not even the Israelis to give away and it is certainly not the Palestinians to take.
I concede that Israel is currently not living for her God as she was commanded but nonetheless this land belongs to God's people.
the existence of Israel as a nation is testimony to the truth of Gods word and His enduring promises.
our leaders should take heed of God's warning, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” Gen 12:3
unless of course Esanta wants to reinterpret this verse.
 
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1still_waters

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The best solution for Israel is to occupy Gaza and the West Bank again. Gaza has turned into a terrorist haven for attacks since they handed it over. They had their chance to live in peace, they clearly don't want peace.
 
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Here's the future of this conflict. Under political pressure from the western world, Israel will accept an UN monitored cease fire while Hamas rearms. In a year or two, Hamas will start lobbing rockets at Israel and things will repeat themselves. IMO, we can resolve this conflict by letting Israel clean house in Gaza and return it to the Palestinian people who truly want to live in peace with Israel.
Too bad the palistinians are only pawns, used by Hamas or whatever other terrorist organization claims to care about the palistinians. They really have no say in this conflict at all other than being targets and dupes.

Unless the palistinians throw off their masters, there is going to be no peace....and I don't see that happening until Jesus comes back....or all of Israel is dead.
 
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The UK newspapers reported that it was Israel who broke the truce, and pictures are coming here with people in Israeli Military uniforms using Palestinian people as shields.
Makes ya wonder how prevalent bigotry is in the ''enlightened socialist european circle "

Also makes me sick
 
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The best solution for Israel is to occupy Gaza and the West Bank again. Gaza has turned into a terrorist haven for attacks since they handed it over. They had their chance to live in peace, they clearly don't want peace.
Absolute 100% truth.
 
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1still_waters

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Absolute 100% truth.
Oh and step 2 is for Israel to do some nation building in there to make the quality of life tolerable for those folks. People tend to not want to bomb things when they have a good standard of living. That's what is feeding some of this in my opinion.
 
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Hoffco

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The solution is for Israel to step up its retaliation and bomb Iran's nuke sites with an atomic bomb; Then we might see the "man of sin" step into the light and resign a peace treaty with Israel and the Arabs for 7 yrs and then , in 3 and one half yrs Jesus will return, rapture and wrath to Israel and the whole world. Then 3 and one half yrs, Jeus will return to rule the world. Love to all, Hoffco
 
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kennethcadwell

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The UK newspapers reported that it was Israel who broke the truce, and pictures are coming here with people in Israeli Military uniforms using Palestinian people as shields.
Yet news reports around the world, except for UK I guess have stated how Hamas fighters have gotten a hold of Israeli uniforms and been using them to infiltrate Israel. So showing some one in a Israeli uniform would not be false, however they are actually showing Hamas soldiers wearing them with the Palestinian people for shields.

Plus it is funny how only one news cast reports that Israel broke the truce, and all the rest say Hamas broke the truce not even a few hours after the treaties was agreed on.
 
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Fishbait

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Palestine is a land which, like it or not, God promised to the children of Israel. It is not even the Israelis to give away and it is certainly not the Palestinians to take.
I concede that Israel is currently not living for her God as she was commanded but nonetheless this land belongs to God's people.
the existence of Israel as a nation is testimony to the truth of Gods word and His enduring promises.
our leaders should take heed of God's warning, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” Gen 12:3
unless of course Esanta wants to reinterpret this verse.
Right Pottyone. Just to add, keep your eyes on Israel. This tiny nation but a speck on the globe is always in the national news. Why? Because God has a plan for her. A plan that will bring back the very One that we as Christians long for. The return of Jesus Christ where He will stand on the Mount of Olives. In the land of Israel. And He will show the people of Israel "whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10) that He is the Messiah.
 
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Fishbait

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At least 40 dead in Israeli attack on Gaza district

At least 40 Palestinians were killed on Sunday by Israeli shelling in a Gaza neighborhood, where bodies were strewn in the street and thousands fled toward a hospital packed with wounded, witnesses and health officials said.
The mass casualties in the Shejaia district in northeast Gaza were the heaviest since Israel launched its offensive on the Palestinian territory on July 8 after cross-border rocket strikes by militants intensified.
Anguished cries of "Did you see Ahmed?" "Did you see my wife?" echoed through the courtyard of Gaza's Shifa hospital, where panicked residents of Shejaia gathered in family groups, while inside bodies and wounded lay on blood-stained floors.
Video given to Reuters by a local showed at least a dozen mangled corpses, including three children, lying in the rubble-filled streets...

Source:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/20/us-palestinians-israel-idUSKBN0FP00U20140720

When will the unbridled israeli aggression end...
It does seem upsetting that any country that has had thousands of rockets fired into it should get mad. Least of all respond with attacks that kill people that are told to stand on the very houses where those rockets were fired from. What country wouldn't allow thousands of rockets to be fired into it? Sounds like "unbridled israeli aggression" to me.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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The best solution for Israel is to occupy Gaza and the West Bank again. Gaza has turned into a terrorist haven for attacks since they handed it over. They had their chance to live in peace, they clearly don't want peace.
Bingo!

 
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Hamas initiated this war, as they always do. This has become a pretty routine pattern since the creation of Gaza. If innocents die let their blood be on the head of the jihadists whom brought the war upon themselves.

How can the man that brings a lion into his home blame anyone else but himself when the lion devours his family?
 
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To go after the Hamas fighters..yes indeed, BUT NOT to kill innocent women and children!
Are they innocent when they volunteer to be the shields? Just 'cause the media says it doesn't mean it's true.
 
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biscuit

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Are they innocent when they volunteer to be the shields? Just 'cause the media says it doesn't mean it's true.

Agree. I doubt very much that the Hamas leadership are using their families as human shields.
 

crossnote

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To go after the Hamas fighters..yes indeed, BUT NOT to kill innocent women and children!
What seems to be implied is that Israel is INTENTIONALLY going after 'innocent' civilians. By reports I've heard they have gone to extremes to do the opposite...even to the extent of jeopardizing their own.
Do you have any suggestions to avoid civilian causualties?
 

Atwood

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To go after the Hamas fighters..yes indeed, BUT NOT to kill innocent women and children!
How do you know that the women are innocent? How do you know that children are innocent (in sin did my mother conceive me). I don't see how Israel can defend itself in this matter without killing women & children as collateral damage. All Israel wants to do is live in peace without being bombed, rocketed, and murdered. The Islamics are relentless. My guess is that the women & children hate Israel also, and if they got a chance, would wipe out Israel. If there were any way to get the Islamics to just live & let live, that would surely be. But no; their religion is to conquer the world by the sword. I am sure that Israel would be overjoyed to settle the hash of these Islamics without killing women & children. But how can they do that?

This whole thing has supernatural forces involved.