Cruz gets boo'd off stage

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peacenik

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In ones life there comes a time when we have to choose one right (if you would) over another. Yes, Cruz didn't endorse the eventual nominee. So you can say that he didn't stay true to those words. But if he had he would've gone against what he's stood for. What he's believed in.

Thus, he he had to choose. And I am proud to say that I believe he chose correctly.
 
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Sirk - for your eyes only:



Donald Trump: LIberal Conspiracy Theorist | National Review




amazing that you were not aware that even the CONSERVATIVE National Review said this
Ya...read that a long time ago. the thing is that you have no idea who I am and what I believe...but yet you try to pigeon hole me into something that you can hate and then call me hateful. LOl. You're a deluded person and just another tough guy behind keyboard.
 

peacenik

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again, I post facts (from a CONSERVATIVE site, no less) ad all you do is respond with criticism

thanks again for validating what I've written
 
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again, I post facts (from a CONSERVATIVE site, no less) ad all you do is respond with criticism

thanks again for validating what I've written
The only person that validates you is you. There are no "facts" in that article...it's an opinion piece you.......
 

peacenik

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obviously you did not read it as it has quotes from Trump which validate the claims made by the conservative NR


by the way, my apologies to board as the article contains one objectionable line and I did not have the time to edit out the link - I should have just posted its title, not the url
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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yes ted cruz made a pledge to support the nominee...that pledge was overruled by far -greater- responsibilities when trump attacked cruz's wife and father...

if cruz had kept his pledge and endorsed trump...he would have been -breaking- his vows to heidi as well as God's command to him to honor his father and mother...

obey God rather than men...here cruz made the right choice...
 
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Voldemort

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That's not political suicide. That's standing up for truth!

Two true conservative spoke tonight. It's good to see the Grand Ole Party still has people who remember what conservatism is about. Four years from now after whining what's wrong with our party again having lost three elections in a row, maybe we'll get back to what the party is supposed to be about -- conservative views, not libertarianism.
I don't think this is political suicide either. Nevertheless, he did make an agreement and backed out of it (sort of).

Since most people here are all for voting for the lesser evil (as opposed to voting for neither evil), they shouldn't have a double-standard that while Cruz agreed to support whichever candidate won, he changed his mind because he was choosing the lesser of two evils: break his pledge or support someone he doesn't see fit as president.

While I'm disappointed in Cruz for making the pledge, I actually respect him for standing for what he believes in and not caving to the mob chanting for him to endorse Trump.
 
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Voldemort

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yes ted cruz made a pledge to support the nominee...that pledge was overruled by far -greater- responsibilities when trump attacked cruz's wife and father...

if cruz had kept his pledge and endorsed trump...he would have been -breaking- his vows to heidi as well as God's command to him to honor his father and mother...

obey God rather than men...here cruz made the right choice...
You actually make a fantastic point. I sort of forgot about all the disgusting attacks Trump made to Heidi.

In spite of the pledge, I don't think I would support someone that attacked my wife that way. In fact, I think I would actually be more disappointed that Cruz backed someone who spit venom at his wife than I am that he backed out of a pledge.
 
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Voldemort

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Cruz went back on his word he made during the debates.
I'm not sure if you are married, but I'm curious... hypothetically, if you made an agreement to back whichever candidate won, and then later that candidate personally disrespected and attacked your wife while he won the nomination... would you still hold true to your pledge?
 
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What silly little children. When I vote, it is NEVER for a "Conservative" or a "Liberal." I vote for the PERSON I feel is the best of the choices I have. (Personally, I think it is a bit dull-witted to vote for a "party.")
 

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Maybe he is still mad about this. :p

 
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yes ted cruz made a pledge to support the nominee...that pledge was overruled by far -greater- responsibilities when trump attacked cruz's wife and father...

if cruz had kept his pledge and endorsed trump...he would have been -breaking- his vows to heidi as well as God's command to him to honor his father and mother...

obey God rather than men...here cruz made the right choice...
Have we forgotten the attacks on Trump wife from Heidi's super pac? Have we forgotten how Cruz tweeted how "Trump is terrific" after Trump made fun Carly Fiorina's face, mocked a disabled reporter. Cruz is a phony....always has been, always will be.....a political opportunist and his wife is in the tank for Goldman Sachs and she is honestly quite terrifying.
 

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I don't think Cruz hurt Trump at all
"Voting your conscious" means ABSOLUTELY NOT voting for Hillary. It would have been disingenuous for Cruz to give a ringing endorsement.

Look, I have been a vocal Cruz supporter and reeeaaally don't like Trump, but the fact is, he got more votes than any gop candidate in primary history. And I don't want to hear about open primaries. There was a robust competition for the Dem nod and people can't vote in both.

At the end of the day Hillary or Trump is going to be President. We KNOW THE wickedness Hillary is going to do on EVERY issue. Is Trump going to be better on immigration? YES. Is Trump going to be . better on terrorism? YES. Is Trumps pick for supreme court going to be better? ALMOST CERTAINLY. Is Trump going to be better on the economy. ALMOST CERTAINLY. Is Trump going to be better with police support. ALMOST CERTAINLY.

So there you have the nuts and bolts of this election. You can cut your nose off to spite your face, or you can swallow your pride and vote the vastly lesser of two evils.

That's how I see it anyways. Love you all no matter what happens!
 
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WarriorForChrist

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You bring up a point long ignored by many of the right wingers on this forum. Up to now, Trump was never acknowledged as a conservative by any one. In fact most right wingers used to refer to him as one of those New York elite liberals. If he has become a conservative all of a sudden then it shows that he is a political sellout and one who is governed, not by principle, but by expediency.
I see it more as someone turning to Christ and Christ making changes in this person. So basically you are saying that all Christians are sell outs of some sort because we changed when we became a Christian. I see where you stand now.
 

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Is it, though? I have more respect for him. Why endorse someone that verbally abused you throughout the election, and vide versa? It happens all the time in politics but I'm kinda glad actually he stood his ground. If someone did that to me, I wouldn't endorse them for a job.
 

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Is it, though? I have more respect for him. Why endorse someone that verbally abused you throughout the election, and vide versa? It happens all the time in politics but I'm kinda glad actually he stood his ground. If someone did that to me, I wouldn't endorse them for a job.
Politics is a dirty business. If you can't run with the big dogs don't get off the porch.

I'm not impressed with Ted. I would have had more respect for him if he had accepted the loss with more humility. Trump set him up and he took the bait.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

hornetguy

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And he still hasn't said if he intends to vote for him.

I imagine he will.

Voting for someone, versus publicly ENDORSING someone is easily understood.

I tend to agree with Cruz on this one.

I'm certainly not a "Trumpster", but there is zero chance of me voting for Hillary.
 
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Voldemort

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi... ppy_dog_to_a_man_who_slandered_my_wife.html







[video=youtube;pUHMjXKI-cI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUHMjXKI-cI[/video]
Cruz to Texas Delegates: I Will Not Be A "Servile Puppy Dog" To A Man Who Slandered My Wife

"I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father," Cruz explained. "That pledge was not a blanket commitment that if you go and slander and attack Heidi, that I'm going to nonetheless come like a servile puppy dog and say thank you very much for maligning my wife and maligning my father."
 

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I kind of agree with Newt. What Cruz said was an endorsement of the GOP nominee albeit not a full-throated "rah,rah,rah Trump!" kind of endorsement. In that I do not see what the huge hubub was.

Definitely not political suicide. Ted Cruz will be haunting the Washington Cartel for quite some time more.