Donald Trump's "Evangelical" Sellouts

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RachelBibleStudent

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This is what I saw....believe being the operative word. “I believe he really made a commitment, but he’s a baby Christian.”

So it is obvious that Dobson either A) was lying in his first statement or B) lying in his second statement. What I believe is that he misspoke and he clarified that he misspoke and that he didn't know.....because he said two different things in the initial and I tend to believe he wasn't lying when he said option b)
And this is really only an issue because people like to split hairs when they are grinding their axes. So what if he did and so what if he didn't...it's none of your business anyway and I think Dobson is a good man that you're dragging thru the mud along with the pitchfork and torch crowd.
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that one sentence is all you saw from the whole interview? have you been letting the 'mainstream media' filter your news??

and i have not been 'dragging dobson through the mud'...i have not accused him of lying about trump...instead i have consistently argued in every post on the matter that dobson was engaging in desperate wishful thinking based on hearsay and made the mistake of reporting his fantasy as fact...

but at least i have gotten you to the point where you are willing to admit that dobson misspoke when he presented trump as a confirmed 'born again christian'...which has been my point all along...and therefore this hope that trump recently 'got saved' is based practically on nothing...

and dobson -made it my business- when he chose to announce it in a public interview in the middle of a public election campaign in support of a candidate...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Once again at nauseum, your own words convict you. The darkness in your heart is satanic. You're either delusional to your own ungodliness or, what I suspect, deliberately deceitful in trying to hide the obvious. In any case, God will not be mocked. You've been thoroughly warned once again.
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uh huh...still providing no evidence for the 'darkness' in my heart that you claim is 'satanic'...nor my supposed 'ungodliness'...

try posting the same false accusations a few more times...maybe hot air is the catalyst that will make a false claim turn true...
 
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uh huh...still providing no evidence for the 'darkness' in my heart that you claim is 'satanic'...nor my supposed 'ungodliness'...

try posting the same false accusations a few more times...maybe hot air is the catalyst that will make a false claim turn true...
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Okay, I'll type slowly so you can keep up. Your own words bear witness against you and the seething hatred that lies within you. One only need to read your words throughout your tenure on this site to see the truth. This is not a contest of egos, rather this is a statement declaring the state of your relationship with God.

Your hatred and vanity are very well known to God, and God don't like ugly. The bottom line once again is, God will not be mocked. You know full well what the truth is but you're too proud to admit any fault. How sad. How very sad indeed. My advice to you is, invest in a very good dental plan that covers weeping and gnashing of teeth. You're gonna need it.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Okay, I'll type slowly so you can keep up. Your own words bear witness against you and the seething hatred that lies within you. One only need to read your words throughout your tenure on this site to see the truth. This is not a contest of egos, rather this is a statement declaring the state of your relationship with God.

Your hatred and vanity are very well known to God, and God don't like ugly. The bottom line once again is, God will not be mocked. You know full well what the truth is but you're too proud to admit any fault. How sad. How very sad indeed. My advice to you is, invest in a very good dental plan that covers weeping and gnashing of teeth. You're gonna need it.
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still no evidence provided...just the same old claims from you...

seriously...the worst any of you trumpists have been able to come up with as far as pointing out any 'fault' in all these months is that i use big words in my signature...

try repeating your false accusations one more time...i have it on 'good authority' that a big lie repeated enough times becomes true...you just need a few more repetitions...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
that one sentence is all you saw from the whole interview? have you been letting the 'mainstream media' filter your news??

and i have not been 'dragging dobson through the mud'...i have not accused him of lying about trump...instead i have consistently argued in every post on the matter that dobson was engaging in desperate wishful thinking based on hearsay and made the mistake of reporting his fantasy as fact...

but at least i have gotten you to the point where you are willing to admit that dobson misspoke when he presented trump as a confirmed 'born again christian'...which has been my point all along...and therefore this hope that trump recently 'got saved' is based practically on nothing...

and dobson -made it my business- when he chose to announce it in a public interview in the middle of a public election campaign in support of a candidate...
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No Rachel....you see....when it came out that Dobson said that Trump could be might be possibly a baby Chrisitian.... that is was I took it to mean....that is how I passed around to my friends and not for one second did I jump on the Trump is most definitely assuredly say I a Christian... bandwagon. Neither did I say he wasn't and that is what I think Dobson thought too when he said what said, irrespective of how he said it. Unlike yours truly who apparently only jumped on the bandwagon in the hopes of high jacking it and driving it over a cliff and having Trumps carcass get pillaged by natives and eaten by vultures.
 
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Utah said:
Okay, I'll type slowly so you can keep up. Your own words bear witness against you and the seething hatred that lies within you. One only need to read your words throughout your tenure on this site to see the truth. This is not a contest of egos, rather this is a statement declaring the state of your relationship with God.

Your hatred and vanity are very well known to God, and God don't like ugly. The bottom line once again is, God will not be mocked. You know full well what the truth is but you're too proud to admit any fault. How sad. How very sad indeed. My advice to you is, invest in a very good dental plan that covers weeping and gnashing of teeth. You're gonna need it.
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Funny how on another thread it is right wingers who accuse others of hate while denying that it is they who are projecting their own sentiments.
 
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Funny how on another thread it is right wingers who accuse others of hate while denying that it is they who are projecting their own sentiments.
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If you ain't right you're wrong.
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
trump himself claimed to already be a christian back in 2011...if trump was not simply -lying- then i would expect him to have more than three passages memorized in five years...
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You claim to be Christian as well yet your pious arrogance says otherwise.

Two words: glass houses.
 
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Funny how on another thread it is right wingers who accuse others of hate while denying that it is they who are projecting their own sentiments.
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Is that the best you can come up with PN? You disappoint me.

Person A bringing to light Person B's hatred does not make Person A hateful.

Silly liberal, try again. And next time call me a racist; it makes me feel like you care.
 
Desdichado

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Is that the best you can come up with PN? You disappoint me.

Person A bringing to light Person B's hatred does not make Person A hateful.

Silly liberal, try again. And next time call me a racist; it makes me feel like you care.
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You're a racist, Utah. :p
 
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Falwell's early endorsement of Trump and handling of Liberty University board members afterward was shameful and unbecoming of a President of the world's largest Christian school.

It has to be noted that most of the voting students broke for Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz on primary day. Most polled Liberty alumni did not have a favorable view of Donald Trump.
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I am an online student of Liberty and in the Facebook group for online students there was a vast majority of different opinions. Needless to say, Jerry does not speak for the students. He definitely made us and the school look bad, and continues to do so with his comments whenever tying Christianity and Trump together, or trying to.
 
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Why aren't you talking about these sellouts....Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell etc?
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Why change the subject to someone else that wasn't the topic of conversation to begin with?
 
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Trumps a Christian, Trump isn't a Christian. Trump lies, Trumps tells the truth. Trump is this, he isn't that.
Rachel, there are no men out there (or woman) whom God has not made concessions for. Did you know eating meat, or any kind of animal is a concession God made to the human race?
HAVING A PRESIDENT IS IN AND OF ITSELF IS A COMPROMISE of God's original plan.
What's your point of all this? We go it. You don't like Trump.
Move on. Whats your alternative advice? Hillary?
Why don't you run next time out?
You sound like a person borderline obsessed.
Tell us how you would make this a better country, politically speaking.
Try typing something fresh and positive. You made your point. Your just regurgitating.
BTW, if Trump gets elected, which if he is not assassinated, it looks more and more like he has a better and better chance of being, what are you going to do then?
 
PeterJens

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It is always dangerous when people encourage violence or segregation against any community based
on a label.

The reason is labels are just simplifications of complex subjects and are useful in discussions but not
when dealing with important issues.

Political groups who use this language without being specific lead to the kind of insanity of ISIS, the
Nazi's, Pol Pot, Rwanda genocide. History is full of examples so any leader who uses this kind of
language you should be scared of.

America used to stand for something. Today no one is sure what that means. Every power has its self
belief, but if that disappears what have you really left?
 
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Mitspa

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PeterJens said:
It is always dangerous when people encourage violence or segregation against any community based
on a label.

The reason is labels are just simplifications of complex subjects and are useful in discussions but not
when dealing with important issues.

Political groups who use this language without being specific lead to the kind of insanity of ISIS, the
Nazi's, Pol Pot, Rwanda genocide. History is full of examples so any leader who uses this kind of
language you should be scared of.

America used to stand for something. Today no one is sure what that means. Every power has its self
belief, but if that disappears what have you really left?
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So its not the people that are killing, raping in the name of Allah that are dangerous...its the people that dare to tell the truth about this barbaric religion. It was not the Nazis that was dangerous ..it was those Jews who dared to complain about being slaughtered that was the dangerous ones? Left-wing insanity !
 
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