Mark Driscoll's 'Empire' Is Imploding! He's making announcement today (8/24)
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Since people would rather be snarky than help you, this appears what prompted this current thread: Former Mars Hill pastors file charges against Mark Driscoll | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News
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That's just not true, millions all over the world have heard of Mark Driscoll. The Holy Spirit has used his online sermons/books etc. to draw people to Him, flaws and all. His ego is the real issue here, everything else stems from that pride. Also, personally, I think there are more people who almost worship big Christian leaders, so when they fall, their followers have a crisis of faith or whatever. I'm really disappointed and saddened when Christian leaders fall but I'm also reminded that we all need Christ and to find our hope, worth and purpose in Him.
Good point in the first part of your remarks especially.
I think we also have to remember that not all who act are actually called. Driscoll could be experiencing all this because God has decided to reveal the wolf who's profited nicely while wearing sheeps clothing. Driscoll made no bones about being obscene, perverse, and a plagiarist.
A man of God doesn't revel in that behavior in the pulpit. But a wolf does.
And now he's taking a six week leave? What's that? Vacation? He makes the mistake of thinking it is his church. Mars Hill is God's church because the people are the church. Not the structure that gives them a place to gather together in.
He's calling himself a teacher now. He's right about that. We err if we don't pay attention to what his behavior and its penalty are teaching us about who we trust as a shepherd.
I think we also have to remember that not all who act are actually called. Driscoll could be experiencing all this because God has decided to reveal the wolf who's profited nicely while wearing sheeps clothing. Driscoll made no bones about being obscene, perverse, and a plagiarist.
A man of God doesn't revel in that behavior in the pulpit. But a wolf does.
And now he's taking a six week leave? What's that? Vacation? He makes the mistake of thinking it is his church. Mars Hill is God's church because the people are the church. Not the structure that gives them a place to gather together in.
He's calling himself a teacher now. He's right about that. We err if we don't pay attention to what his behavior and its penalty are teaching us about who we trust as a shepherd.
T
I don't believe he was always a wolf, but yes, his ego got in the way. You're right though, that a six week break is nowhere near long enough. I think he needs a break of however long it takes the Holy Spirit to humble him and to restore him in Christ. That could be months and months, it could be years. But six weeks isn't enough time.
You can expect a lot of things in life, but I guess now is a good time to realize you can't always get what you want. David was asking what started this thread, the news article I linked him to is exactly what Driscoll was replying to when he decided to take a leave. Your response equaled nothing more than a let me google that you jab.
Sorry not sorry.
Sorry not sorry.
T
In all of this, we shouldn't rejoice when Christian leaders fall, but pray for them and support them where possible. If they need time away with God, that should be seen as a very good thing. I certainly don't agree with Mark Driscoll on everything, but he has a lot of really good teachings. We need to be discerning but also loving. More love, guys. More love informed by God's truth.
Here is the article I read yesterday in Christianity Today.
Mark Driscoll Steps Down While Mars Hill Investigates Charges... | Gleanings | ChristianityToday.com
While I may not agree with all of Driscoll's theology, I saw him in an on-line debate with a former prostitute and they debating against Deepak Chopra and some apostate United Methodist minister. He was kind and gracious and between the woman's testimony, Driscoll and a Christian audience, they kindly and lovingly demolished the heathens opinions.
I was very impressed, too bad to hear there is another side, and paying he learns his lesson, like John Piper.
Mark Driscoll Steps Down While Mars Hill Investigates Charges... | Gleanings | ChristianityToday.com
While I may not agree with all of Driscoll's theology, I saw him in an on-line debate with a former prostitute and they debating against Deepak Chopra and some apostate United Methodist minister. He was kind and gracious and between the woman's testimony, Driscoll and a Christian audience, they kindly and lovingly demolished the heathens opinions.
I was very impressed, too bad to hear there is another side, and paying he learns his lesson, like John Piper.
Not at all. I don't like punks that make attacks against my character or my posts, and then punk out making an excuse for their juvenile behavior because they're not man enough to admit they were wrong.
The one's that like to create conflict are the punks that troll Christian forums. And they never like it when a people they think are committed to pacifism, aren't.
The one's that like to create conflict are the punks that troll Christian forums. And they never like it when a people they think are committed to pacifism, aren't.