Poll - Who won the first Trump/Clinton debate?

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Who Won the First Clinton/Trump Debate

  • Clinton

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • Trump

    Votes: 12 32.4%
  • Neither

    Votes: 10 27.0%

  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .
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Mitspa

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Both candidates have next day rally after the debate ...Trump has 30000 people...HRC has 300 ...
 
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Look up her emails, Benghazi, money to Saudia Arabia, the Iran Deal, her illness. Not to mention she supported the TPP. Once you read a little bit about those, then come back to me and tell me how Trump can be a little rude sometimes =\
 
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Mitspa

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Its time to be rude ..its time to save our Republic and the hope our nation represents from the insanity of the globalist political class driving us toward the one world government of the anti-Christ that all believers should be aware of. Sadly the children of darkness are wiser than the children of light and as this thread shows many are dull and asleep already.
 
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Its time to be rude ..its time to save our Republic and the hope our nation represents from the insanity of the globalist political class driving us toward the one world government of the anti-Christ that all believers should be aware of. Sadly the children of darkness are wiser than the children of light and as this thread shows many are dull and asleep already.
Mitspa - We are already in a kind of one world government and it is the power of
consumer economics. No one is in control of it, it runs itself, but the issues at stake
are the life and death of billions of people.

We are no longer into national identities, but global markets, which dictate who has
work and who does not.

So the ball game is to keep these markets going and working.
It is why the 2007 crash needed a world response.

So whether you like it or not, this is our world today, and it is going
to be more integrated and different than any of us think in the future.

We need to see how love, truth and integrity can survive amongst all
the pressures. I am not sure in the end there will be any innocents,
as history has shown nations often do terrible things to survive, and
occasionally manage some form of good behaviour.

Our past expectations were in a age when we were not as integrated as
today. And we cannot break this integration, because it is beyond the point
of going back, that would be literally suicide.
 
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Mitspa - We are already in a kind of one world government and it is the power of
consumer economics. No one is in control of it, it runs itself, but the issues at stake
are the life and death of billions of people.

We are no longer into national identities, but global markets, which dictate who has
work and who does not.

So the ball game is to keep these markets going and working.
It is why the 2007 crash needed a world response.

So whether you like it or not, this is our world today, and it is going
to be more integrated and different than any of us think in the future.

We need to see how love, truth and integrity can survive amongst all
the pressures. I am not sure in the end there will be any innocents,
as history has shown nations often do terrible things to survive, and
occasionally manage some form of good behaviour.

Our past expectations were in a age when we were not as integrated as
today. And we cannot break this integration, because it is beyond the point
of going back, that is literally suicide.
We still need to have ground rules for doing business with other nations. In case you haven't noticed there is a clash of cultures going on.
 

mailmandan

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Demi777 shared this pic in a different thread. Love it! :D

 

Roughsoul1991

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I will repost this also keeping in mind Trump is not a politician but a businessman. He does not like politicians because they are all talk. A businessman is taught to stomp out their competition like a true leader should be and make a change that matters. A true leader should not be afraid to hurt feelings. A leader has to make tough decisions and make tough calls. Sometimes stepping on some toes. America will look weak if Hillary becomes president. Not because she is a female but because she following Obama who already looks spineless. She looks weak physically and boring to hear. This debate was catered to a politician debate which Donald is not. It is a different game folks. We have been complaining about the corrupted government, well now we got Trump running, who the government does not want to win and the media does not want him to win. Why? They are corrupted! Time to make America Great Again.

Check your definition of evil in a biblical text and explain to me how Hillary who is against war on drugs, for pro-abortion, for same-sex marriage, for Obama care which is proven to be trash, for policing the world without making our allies pay what they owe us to protect them, pro wanting felons to be able to vote, Pro-nuclear Iranian deal which allows terroristic countries to have access to nuclear power, pro planned parent hood should get federal funding which means our tax money will help pay for abortions, does not want to enforce immigration, against checking for immigration status on employees, against checking IDs of people who vote allowing for people to vote more than once, Pro the allowance of Syrian refugees opening us up to terrorism, Pro black lives matter movement which have proven to be a terrorist organization, she believe race is the problem in this country which we all know is the media and corrupt leaders like her, Pro for taking away our freedom of religion to not be able to deny goods and services to same-sex marriages, Pro to allow transgenders to use the female bathroom but goes as far as the NBA belief that bathrooms should be gender neutral allowing men to be able legally to go into the bathroom with my daughter, she is a risk to our national security and cyber warfare, 33,000 emails deleted she calls an accident. She does not support Israel and in fact will and has been arming Israel's enemies, just as Obama has been doing. Obama and Hillary do not fall far from the same corrupt tree.


These are all facts and if you call yourself a Christian and can back a woman like her then God help this nation for they do not see and do not hear but have hearts of stone and turn a blind eye to the truth. Only hearing what they want to hear.

References: 2016 Presidential Candidate Positions on 74 Issues - 2016 Presidential Election - ProCon.org

Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton On The Issues, by Jesse Gordon of OnTheIssues.org

What does Hillary Clinton believe? Where the candidate stands on 12 issues | PBS NewsHour

American Family Radio - Debate Result Polls and Biased Debate? (Hour 2)
 
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We still need to have ground rules for doing business with other nations. In case you haven't noticed there is a clash of cultures going on.
Interesting you want rules, yet many here are arguing rules are evil, quite a moral
dilemma.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#69
American Family Radio

[h=3]Our Mission[/h]The mission of the American Family Association is to inform, equip, and activate individuals to strengthen the moral foundations of American culture, and give aid to the church here and abroad in its task of fulfilling the Great Commission.
PHILOSOPHICAL STATEMENT
The American Family Association believes that God has communicated absolute truth to mankind, and that all people are subject to the authority of God’s Word at all times. Therefore AFA believes that a culture based on biblical truth best serves the well-being of our nation and our families, in accordance with the vision of our founding documents; and that personal transformation through the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the greatest agent of biblical change in any culture.

ACTION STATEMENT
The American Family Association acts to:

  1. restrain evil by exposing the works of darkness
  2. promote virtue by upholding in culture that which is right, true and good according to Scripture
  3. convince individuals of sin and challenge them to seek Christ’s grace and forgiveness
  4. motivate people to take a stand on cultural and moral issues at the local, state and national levels
  5. encourage Christians to bear witness to the love of Jesus Christ as they live their lives before the world
To that end, AFA spurs activism directed to:

  • Preservation of Marriage and the Family
  • Decency and Morality
  • Sanctity of Human Life
  • Stewardship
  • Media Integrity
We believe in holding accountable companies that sponsor programs attacking traditional family values. We also believe in commending those companies that act responsibly regarding programs they support.
It is AFA’s goal to be a champion of Christian activism. If you are alarmed by the increasing ungodliness and depravity assaulting our nation, tired of cursing the darkness, and ready to light a bonfire, please join us. Do it for your children and grandchildren.

Equip yourself with the truth
Under AFR Talk look up Focal point. listen to the debate podcasts. These guys are biblical scholars and have a whole team to check the facts and support candidates who support morals and Christians. I will post a link
American Family Radio - The Good Samaritan, Debate Winners? and Actual Debate? (Hour 1)

American Family Radio - Debate Result Polls and Biased Debate? (Hour 2)



 
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Mitspa

Guest
#70
Mitspa - We are already in a kind of one world government and it is the power of
consumer economics. No one is in control of it, it runs itself, but the issues at stake
are the life and death of billions of people.

We are no longer into national identities, but global markets, which dictate who has
work and who does not.

So the ball game is to keep these markets going and working.
It is why the 2007 crash needed a world response.

So whether you like it or not, this is our world today, and it is going
to be more integrated and different than any of us think in the future.

We need to see how love, truth and integrity can survive amongst all
the pressures. I am not sure in the end there will be any innocents,
as history has shown nations often do terrible things to survive, and
occasionally manage some form of good behaviour.

Our past expectations were in a age when we were not as integrated as
today. And we cannot break this integration, because it is beyond the point
of going back, that would be literally suicide.
Guy this is like saying there is already evil in the world ..so let's just accept and submit to it
You clearly have no understanding of the traditional ideas of what america represents ..You clearly fail to understand our constituion was designed to defeat the very concept of global government and power in anybodys hands besides the American people.. This is what has made america great and mighty and made it the strong tower of God's Word and the Protestant faith... I have to say..many of you are just ignorant of why America was formed and it's purpose in the world before the Lord....
 
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Mitspa

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#71
Interesting you want rules, yet many here are arguing rules are evil, quite a moral
dilemma.
The constitution is the only set of rules for Americans ..all other rules or laws are under that...many of us have sworn and many have died to defend our constituion against ALL enemies ..both foreign and domestic. . Now the greatest enemies we face against the constituion are domestic enemies ..HRC and Obama and their political class are out to destroy our Constitution. .they are the enemies of America
 

Roughsoul1991

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The constitution is the only set of rules for Americans ..all other rules or laws are under that...many of us have sworn and many have died to defend our constituion against ALL enemies ..both foreign and domestic. . Now the greatest enemies we face against the constituion are domestic enemies ..HRC and Obama and their political class are out to destroy our Constitution. .they are the enemies of America
Amen Brother
 
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The constitution is the only set of rules for Americans ..all other rules or laws are under that...many of us have sworn and many have died to defend our constituion against ALL enemies ..both foreign and domestic. . Now the greatest enemies we face against the constituion are domestic enemies ..HRC and Obama and their political class are out to destroy our Constitution. .they are the enemies of America
It sounds like as an american the constitution is more important than Gods word.

Jesus appears to be saying it is actually His people who are the salt and light.
My faith is in Him and His people.

America got to where it is through industrial might, and intellectual prowess.
Industrial might has much reduced and intellectual prowess is now being
challenged. No empire stands forever, and if the power does not respect the
people it is already in decay. It sounds like this is what is happening and the
different wings are eating your own culture up.

If you were to say what America stands for in the world today, most would
not be able to answer that question. It used to be freedom, liberty and respect.

Do you think that anymore?
 
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It sounds like as an american the constitution is more important than Gods word.

Jesus appears to be saying it is actually His people who are the salt and light.
My faith is in Him and His people.

America got to where it is through industrial might, and intellectual prowess.
Industrial might has much reduced and intellectual prowess is now being
challenged. No empire stands forever, and if the power does not respect the
people it is already in decay. It sounds like this is what is happening and the
different wings are eating your own culture up.

If you were to say what America stands for in the world today, most would
not be able to answer that question. It used to be freedom, liberty and respect.

Do you think that anymore?
Why, Peter! I didn't know you were a Trump supporter. Congratulations.
 
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Mitspa

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#76
It sounds like as an american the constitution is more important than Gods word.

Jesus appears to be saying it is actually His people who are the salt and light.
My faith is in Him and His people.

America got to where it is through industrial might, and intellectual prowess.
Industrial might has much reduced and intellectual prowess is now being
challenged. No empire stands forever, and if the power does not respect the
people it is already in decay. It sounds like this is what is happening and the
different wings are eating your own culture up.

If you were to say what America stands for in the world today, most would
not be able to answer that question. It used to be freedom, liberty and respect.

Do you think that anymore?
Again your ignorance hinders you from having a rational debate..the constituion was written and designed to protect God's Word and believers rights to honor it above false ideas of men..do a little research before you spout off in ignorance about our nation.
 

Dude653

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I can't stand Donald Trump but I believe he won that debate
 
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Mitspa

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#78
News out on former ms universe that accused Trump of racial slurs ..that she just happened to remember 50 days before election with no evidence..she was charged with attempted murder ..she is a porn star..she also has a child with drug lord from her country...and HRC quoted this woman as truth to the American people.
 
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Why, Peter! I didn't know you were a Trump supporter. Congratulations.
I am not a supporter of any candidate.
I would abstain from such an election because the problem is cultural.
The country used to know what it thought about itself, this is not longer true.
 
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Again your ignorance hinders you from having a rational debate..the constituion was written and designed to protect God's Word and believers rights to honor it above false ideas of men..do a little research before you spout off in ignorance about our nation.
I like your faith in the constitution, which has been used to stop praying, preaching,
and christian representation in all government institutions.

It sounds like your defence is to attack me rather than actually face the truth.
I was right in your faith about constitution, rather than putting the bible above your
loyalty to it, you have married the two.

Where does it mention Gods word or the sanctity of Gods word as His revelation?

Now it appears that state constitutions do mention God but not the USA constitution.
So though people might read in favourable ethics this is not the same.