September 2015 Be ready

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

No man knows the day or the hour is what the Word of God teaches. Man teaches that to mean nobody can know the time at all. The Word says that even Jesus does not know the day or the hour, but when His Disciples asked Him when He will return, Jesus told them what to look for, so then we know He knows the Season.

Only God knows the Day and the Hour. This does not mean That God can't reveal the season to whomever He decides to reveal it. And i don't think the world is going to end. It is written the Earth abideth forever. So the World is not going to end. All i said above is this would be a good time for the Tribulation Period to begin, You could have merely asked me if i thought it was the end of the world, instead of assuming i was saying such a thing.

^i^ Responding to post #2

I don't see the start of the tribulation occurring in a single event. The tribulation judgments are a marked period of increase of the tribulation we have faced in the world from the beginning. Now, while I can't pinpoint when the tribulation wrath starts, I do believe that when you see Jerusalem surrounded and being evacuated, don't bother to grab your toothbrush.

i do not know when the Tribulation Period will start, But two things i do KNOW. it will be in my lifetime, and when it does start it will effect the entire World, not a single location. When the wrath of God (The 7 Year Tribulation Period) starts it will be something like (opinion again) California falling into the ocean, while volcano goes off in another country, while Earthquakes are happening simultaneously all over the World, while a massive solar flare knocks out the power in half the world that was exposed to it, while tsunami's are happening all over the world because of California and the Earthquakes. An event that effects the ENTIRE World, not any one location. What i do KNOW, is the starting of the Tribulation Period is going to be Catastrophic to the planet. I also KNOW people will still not repent of their sins, but will blame all that is happening, NOT coming from God, but will blame it on something else. And it is my opinion, what better thing to blame the world going crazy, then to blame it on the Hadron Collidor, which just opened up a black hole, causing the whole world to be unstable, and causing the entire World's weather to be crazy. So instead of people repenting of their sins and thinking these are acts of God against the disobedient Children of God, they will just blame the Hadron Collidor, yeah, that is what caused the whole world to go haywire, NOT GOD. My person thought is, and as stated, in the middle of September or that latter part of it, would be a good time for the Tribulation Period to begin. Again, this thought is not from God, but comes from me. If it were from God, i would plainly say "God told me this" But God did not tell me this, but i do know it will happen in my lifetime, and i can speculate as to when it MIGHT happen, and my speculations are on mid-september or late September. This is NOT prophesy as some would love to discredit me by saying it is. Can i be wrong, Oh yeah, been wrong before, i thought 2004 was the year the Tribulation would start, i was dead wrong. NO i did not stand in the Streets yelling "This year Tribulations will start" nor did i tell people that it WAS going to happen in 2004. Like this mid or late September thing, could also be dead wrong too.

^i^ Responding to post # 18

 

[DiscipleDave]

it's more understandable to me to be looking for a world political and religious leader to claim to take the place of God than for some particular physics experiment to be conducted at a certain energy level.
the 'god particle' is an unfortunate name attached to the Higgs boson by some journalist trying to sensationalize science for a public that doesn't understand it. it's not somethign to be worshiped - it's not something that creates, but something created. if it exists, it's a particle associated with a theorized field, that may make sense out of why "stuff" in the universe has a property we call "mass." how exactly energy can be expressed as matter.
if it turns out we can observe that, then we're looking at the fingerprints of God & how He put the worlds together.

If God wanted us to know that information, He would have revealed it to us. Are you saying that God is pleased that they are looking into the things that belong only to God, else He would have revealed them?

it's not an idol. it's not something sitting on a throne claiming to be God and it in no way persecutes Christians.

This is True. i don't think anyone is saying that it is a God, or an idol, or is something to be worshipped. i myself have only been saying that is would be a good time for the Tribulation Period to begin, Which actually has NOTHING to do with the Hadron Collider at all. i THINK the Hadron collider is evil, and that they should not be looking into, or tying to find anything that belongs to God and God alone. Here is why i think the Hadron Collider is significant.

i just don't see what makes the LHC's next slew of experiments any different than the last 7 years of experiments, or what would make them a sign of the end.

weird.

This may be the answer you seek.

satan is no idiot. he knows the Bible better than we do. satan knows in the last days God's Spirit will be poured out upon the sons and daughters and they shall prophesy. These will probably stand in the street proclaiming what is fixing to happen. And everyone will listen to them. So knowing that, what can satan do to prevent people from listening to those who have the Spirit on prophesy in the last days. Well he has caused others to rise up and stand in the streets and proclaim the end of the world is coming this year. And it does not come. Then satan causes others to falsely proclaim the end is coming in 1973, in 1984, in 1995, in the Y2K. How brilliant is that? by the time the True prophets of God rise in the last days, and they are saying when the end shall come, WHO will believe them? Will they not say "Oh another wacko preaching the end of time again" effectively causing the people NOT to listen to, nor hearken to them.

satan tried to get rid of the KJV Bible, they had book burnings in the street, they bust into peoples houses looking for any Bible or pages of the Bible to burn them. But God protected the Bible. When satan seen that God was protecting His Work, he knew he would never be able to get rid of the KJV Bible, and that the Truth would be around till the last days. So satan could not get rid of the Word of God, so his next step would be to get people to stop reading it. Therefore he came up with other versions of the Bible, tweeked here and there, omitting a verse or two here and there, or changing it slightly. Tell me if you have a favorite dish that you like to cook, it is your favorite meal, and you took out only one ingredient, would it be the same? Likewise, satan has caused water-downed versions to appear, anything he could do to keep people from reading the TRUE Word of God. Now because of satan, people do not even have Bible studies any more, because you get 5 or more people together, each one of them has different version, and each one of them think they have the Word of God, and that there version is the right version. Needless to say many do not show back up for the next Bible Study. satan is brilliant, he is the master deceiver.

satan also knows he can cause a great falling away from the Faith in the last days, if he could convince most people to believe in pre-trib, (which the Bible does not teach by the way), that way when the Tribulation Period does happen, and Jesus did not come, they would doubt there is a God at all, and millions upon millions will fall away from their Faith, whatever religion that might be.

satan also knows when the Tribulation Period will begin (not the day and hour of Jesus's Return) Now if he does nothing, and the the Tribulation Period begins, and all these acts of God happen all over the world, people will know it is from God, and they will repent of their evil deeds and seek God. So satan has to put a stop to that, how? How can he put a stop to that? he could cause the people to believe it is not God, but something else. So since 1950 satan has been instructing ungodly people to construct and look for things that belong only to God, and the Hadron Collider came into being. satan would cause rumors concerning this thing, like black holes, end of the world scenarios, rumors that it is going to destroy the World, and the such, of coarse all the tests that were done nothing came about at all, all according to his plans, and the Hadron Collider was allowed to continue by the societies of the world, deeming it no threat at all.

Now what a perfect time for satan to have the largest Hadron Collider in the world at Cern Switzerland to go off around the same time the Tribulation Period will start. So that when Earthquakes all over the world go off simultaneously, and the weather all over the world goes haywire, the people will NOT repent and think it is God, they will have something to BLAME instead, they will all say it is the Hadron Collider that caused this, and they will not repent of their sins nor their wickedness, and they will not cease to continue to live in those sins. Yes, a perfect time for the Tribulation Period to begin.

but we need to always be ready -- not in a month we should be ready, or wait until that day in 2016 or whenever - today.
i'm sorry i was kind of flip in my first post; tried to explain myself better with this one.

peace

Very True, The Bible was written in such a way, that each generation would believe it was going to happen in their generation, This was done so that people would live their life as if it were going to happen soon. But there is a time coming and now is, when there is no time left, this is the generation that will experience the wrath of God. It is written, and the Word can not be broken, that you will reap what you sow, that you will be repaid for the wrong that you do, that if you sow to the flesh then of that flesh you shall reap corruption. God does not lie, nor can He lie. if you have sown to the flesh, then of the flesh you shall reap corruption. During the Tribulation Period is when most people, during His Wrath, will suffer in their flesh with the very corruption that the Word of God told them they would suffer if they sown to the flesh. When Tribulation begins, and billions of people are suffering in their flesh (reaping what they themselves have sown, and the Bible plainly said they would suffer) these will turn away from God because of the suffering which they themselves have brought upon themselves by sowing to the flesh all their lives.

Here is Good News, those who know the Truth, know that they will suffer in the flesh corruption because they have sown to their flesh, and when Tribluation Period begins and they start to suffer in the flesh, they will not turn away from God, but will realize and understand they are now suffering in the flesh as the Word of God plainly told them they would if they sowed to the flesh, and they will seek God for His Mercy, repent of their sins, and continue to wait and believe in the Return of Jesus Christ, despite the suffering they have brought upon their own selves. These will be SAVED in the end.


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[DiscipleDave]

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(Dan 9:27)

That Covenant will be for one week that the man of sin will enter into with others including Israel at the start of the one week (7 year tribulation). So when you see (if we are still here) such a Covenant signed with the man of sin and Israel and others, that triggers the great Tribulation.

i agree with all that you say here, except for one detail. It is not the signing of a covenant that triggers the Great Tribulation Period. This covenant you speak of, starts after the Tribulation Period begins. It is After the Tribulation Period starts that the antichrist rallies the human race together, putting aside all religious beliefs. This is when the Peace agreement is signed, but only AFTER the Tribulations begin and the antichrist rallies people together, and all the people look to him for answers, which he will have for them. He figures out a way to make the crazy world and weather system to come back to normal, well somewhat more normal that is.

^i^ Responding to Post # 21

 

[DiscipleDave]

The largest one on Earth 17 miles wide, 300 feet below Earth, is going to collide in September in CERN Switzerland, the exact location of the the God of Appollon Temple in Romans Times. And even now they have as their mascot the deity of Shiva, which is the God of destruction in front of their Facility. And they say they are looking for the God particle.

Because of this information, i believe they are about to cause God to be really upset, and it just may start the 7 year Tribulation Period. Less than a month, we shall see.

^i^ Responding to Post 6

Yikes! Not a good mascot. They are definitely playing with fire. Perhaps we should pray.

Let us all pray, that people start believing the Word of God, and not only believing it, but LIVE IT. There is no time to still be on milk.

^i^ responding to post 22

 

[DiscipleDave]

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Mat 24:24)

Amen, Do you know where all the false prophets are? They are behind the pulpits, preaching such things like Pre-Trib, and Once Saved Always Saved, and you MUST give 10% tithe to the Church, God wants you to be prosperous (rich), Jesus comes back a third time, they teach interpretations of men, and many other false doctrines they teach, things contrary to the Word of God, contrary to the plain teachings of the Word of God.

Here is how you can tell if a person is false. If what they teach contradicts even one verse is the Word of God (KJV), they are FALSE. Do not listen to them, no nor for a minute, they are devoid of the Truth, if they teach something that is contrary to the Word of God.

^i^ responding to post 23

 

[Angela53510]

Setting dates? Woe!

Remind me to pull up this thread in October, ok?

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

The largest one on Earth 17 miles wide, 300 feet below Earth, is going to collide in September in CERN Switzerland, the exact location of the the God of Appollon Temple in Romans Times. And even now they have as their mascot the deity of Shiva, which is the God of destruction in front of their Facility. And they say they are looking for the God particle.

Because of this information, i believe they are about to cause God to be really upset, and it just may start the 7 year Tribulation Period. Less than a month, we shall see.

Yeah, ok, whatever ...

1. The Large Hadron Collider has been used countless times since it first went operational September 10 seven years ago. Cern was the location of the Appollon Temple then as it is now. In fact, it has been for over 2,000 years. Also, Apollon is not "destruction" as you seem to presume.

Who is the one presuming friend? you presume that i believe that. That is not what i said anywhere, nor is it what i believe, what i plainly said is what i plainly believe. i never indicated even once that the God Appollon was of destruction, but plainly said that the Goddess Shiva is. Your prsumption of what you think i believe is in error.

i do believe the Word of God though.

Rev 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Who is to say that this God Appollyon doesn't open the bottomless pit at the very location his followers worship him where his temple is located at, as even you say to this very day, what better location to open up the pit then where he is worshipped at. which is right smack dab in the middle of Cern Switzerland, where they are going to collide two particles traveling the speed of light, and as they themselves testify have no clue what is going to happen, but hope that something either comes out, or goes into it. hhhmmmmm maybe the prophesy of the fifth trumpet is going to be fulfilled and done so because of the Hadron Collider, if not this September, then a later time when they do it again, or maybe after that, or after that. My point is though, they are messing with things they should not be messing with, and God's Mercy for the wicked goes only so far.

That would be ajpwvleia (apoleia) meaning "destroying," or "destruction." Apollon, additionally, was the god of prophecy and oracles, healing, plague and disease, music, song and poetry, archery, and the protection of the young. Nothing to do with destruction.

i really have no ideal about who the God of Apollon was or was not, or what he was the God of, why would i have that information or even desire to have that information? But anyhoo, because you brought it up, i googled God of Appollon and Bible, this is what i immediately read.

APOLLYON, or, as it is literally in the margin of the AV of Revelation 9:11, "a destoyer," is the rendering of the Hebrew word Abaddon, "the angel of the bottomless pit."

[And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.--Rev 9:11]
​

The Hebrew term is really abstract, and signifies "destruction," in which sense it occurs in Job 26:6; 28:22; Proverbs 15:11; and other passages.

found that at : Abaddon/Apollyon/Apollo

Sorry, i did not go any farther, not that i even believe what i read above. here is the Truth, i just don't care about other gods than the one i serve, there is ONLY ONE GOD for me. i will leave other gods to the experts, which you seem to know quite a bit about.

2. What gives you this "special insight"?

Its called the gift of thought, the thinking process comes from the mind, little electrical impulses shoot from one nodule to another, it is called thinking. Have i said it was a special insight? Or is this one of your presumptions as to what you think i believe? i have never said this insight was from God, i never said it was special. You do error again in your presumptions.

Mark 13, NASB
32 "But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."​

If Jesus doesn't know, how do you?

Brother, you really need to try to follow what is being said before you respond half cocked. The above verse you mention is referring to what? If you said Rapture, or the Return of Jesus Christ, you would be correct. And now tell me what have i been talking about? Am i talking about the Rapture, or the Tribulation Period? i am most assuredly talking about that it is possible, MIGHT, Maybe, could be, my opinion, that that the Tribulation Period could start mid-September to late September. This has nothing to do with the Rapture or the Return of Jesus Christ to get His Church. OH wait, i think i understand now, your pretrib, therefore the start of the Rapture and the start of the Tribulation Period are one and the same to you. Even though that is not Scriptural.

All this speculation about signs and events and other "predictors" are useless.

Strange you saying that, when Jesus told us to specifically look for the signs. Should we listen to you and NOT look for the signs, or listen to Jesus and look for the signs?

When the time comes, the time comes. Don't be ready just the week of September 15. Be ready always.

100% agree with you on this, be ready all the time, but you act as if it is a sin to even speculate when He might come, just because you don't WANT to think of the end of the world coming, does not mean it is wrong for others to do so.
i have known my whole life that i would see the Tribulation Period, so of course i am going to be looking for the signs and the times for that to occur, look forward to it, expect it. Because i know the Lord is at the Door, and is going to come and get me, but i also know the Scriptures are True and can't be broken, that many things must take place first, so i look for these things to take place first, so i WATCH for these things, as we are instructed to do. Now if you want to go inside the house because you do not want to WATCH, nor to even think about the end, that is entirely up to you, But who are you to tell those who wait outside looking for the signs of the Tribulations to begin that they are wrong to do so, just because you do not want to face the reality of it. Isn't it better to think all that stuff is going to happen a hundred years from now, isn't that right? Go on sit in the house, i will continue to look for the signs of times. Please don't get me wrong, i am not saying those who are in the house waiting on the Lord are wrong in the way they are waiting for the Lord, only saying it is wrong for those who are inside to tell those who are outside they are wrong to do so outside, or those who are outside telling those who are inside they are doing it wrong.

^i^ responding to Post # 24

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Even though i am as you call me. it has not been revealed to me by God concerning what i said above, it is only speculation. If it were something that was revealed to me by God, i would have said. God told me, this is going to happen, or The Tribulation Period will start September 23, 2015, and when asked how do i know that, i would then respond "God told me". But as i said , He has not revealed that information to me. But i personally feel like it is most significant, and something is going to happen. As to what, i know not. But i am on a fast, to seek God and find out why i am feeling this way about that event. Maybe He will tell me soon.

^i^ REsponding to post 3

Dave, if God reveals something to you, will you post that revelation on CC? And would you agree that the revelation has to be according to the truth revealed in the bible?

Most everything i post on CC is what has been revealed to me by God. i made the mistake of posting something that i, me, David thought was interesting, and that others might think interesting also, and if you read these posts, you would see the outcome of such thoughts. i have learned a valuable lesson. teach only what God has told me, say nothing that comes from my own thoughts.

Also, if anyone teaches something that is contrary to the Word of God, they are FALSE and do not know the Truth, listen to nothing they teach, they are false.

Dave, do you believe there is such a thing as a God particle? Myself, I don't even know what is meant by that, I'm going to look into it. The reason I ask is that my thought was particles are created, so how can there be a God particle.

Sorry, i know nothing about the God particle. What i do know is that ungodly people should not be messing with things that they do not know or understand. Someone in a previous post said something that the God particle was just made up, whether it is or is not, i know not. To me, i really don't care.

I'm not a scientist. So don't laugh at my questions, please. I'm ignorant about such things as colliding atoms and particles.

google : hadron collider

All kinds of information will come up. Not laughing at your question. Ask yourself though, Do you think GOD wants us humans down here colliding atoms and particles? i don't.

Humans are not trying to feed the hungry, humans are not trying to house the homeless, humans are not helping the needy, no, no, no. Humans are spending trillions of dollars to make a Hadron Collider to get to particles to travel almost the speed of light, and collide them together, just to see what will happen, that is what Humans are doing.
Spend millions of dollars of figure out the mating cycle of the Lizard from, moved from the jungle to a fishing tank, instead of helping the needy. that is what humans are doing. Oh my, i could come up with pages of this. What a wicked and perverse generation that live in the last days.

IHope someone will seriously enlighten me as to what a God particle is.

Thank you

sorry, thats not me.


^i^ REsponding to Post #28

 

[DiscipleDave]

Yes the subject gets a bit stale after a while even the JWs have realised that people who keep predicting it look rather silly.
Problem is there is money to be made by selling books on the subject so the doomsday industry will continue to thrive.

This is True, and satan knows it is True as well. satan knows full well by causing so many false doomsday doctrines, that when the REAL Doomsday is about to happen, that no one will believe it. This is nothing more than "The Boy who cried wolf" Get many people to proclaim doomsday is about to happen, over a few centuries, then when doomsday is indeed about to happen, nobody is going to believe those people, saying things like "Look there honey, another doomsday preacher on the street corner" Except the last ones, will be telling the Truth, and will be from God, but who will believe them?

^i^ responding to post # 35

 

[DiscipleDave]

Hey mr. prophet dave guy,
They've been doing that at that facility for quite a few years now.
The particle they observe in these collisions is called the Higgs Boson.

The Higgs dooms-day ship sailed about 7 years ago, bro.

......... sigh ..........

REsponding to post # 38

 

[DiscipleDave]

I don't know about the collider, but will say that September will be very interesting with the some 23 oddly connected things expected to come to pass.......so...like the proverbial statement declares....Time will tell!

What you say is True, Many things are lining up, and all point to September 2015. Maybe nothing at all, Maybe something, and as you correctly say "Time will tell"

Responding to POst # 39

 

[DiscipleDave]

Setting dates? Woe!

Remind me to pull up this thread in October, ok?

Who has set a date? Please tell me? Or are you making assumptions that is what is going on?

^i^ Responding to post # 46

 

[posthuman]

Dave, ((in re: post #42))

thanks for making your point of view a lot more clear to me.
though i'm not sure i would agree about the LHC in particular, i understand completely where you're coming from. i have similar concerns about the modern prevalence of conspiracy theories concerning aliens and secret government technologies, spiritualism, and fantasies about human/machine transcendence & emergent consciousness, etc. all these ideas, plus the 'dumbing down' of western culture, reducing both thought & information to character-limited blurbs together with the capacity to spread rumor around the globe in rapid pace, the stage is set or being set for multitudes of people to be deceived.

i see what you're saying now, and in large part i agree, though i'm hyper-wary about 'setting dates' ((also understanding that that's not what you're doing)) so i'm hesitant to do anything close to it. the overall portent though -- be ready, the time is near, and this could all go down very soon -- yes, amen.
and He is coming "quickly"

 

[Deacon_edwin]

I recommend a book by Anthony Hoekema entitled "Amilennialism". It is a good, biblical cure to all the scary and un-biblical "prophecy" being offered out there. I do believe persecution is coming, but it's always been with the church all along. The second coming may be minutes away, but it could also be 100's of years away. We should live our lives in obedience to our Savior so that we will not be ashamed when He comes back.

 

[tanach]

Any time is 'A good time for the tribulation to start'. The first Atomic bomb test would have been a good time but it didn't start then. The Hadron collider is only doing what occurs in nature all the time. The only difference is that the collider makes it happen under controlled conditions so that it can be 'observed'

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Jesus said for us to look for the signs of the times of His return. The emphasis is not on the signs or on some obscure religious practice, but on Him. I am very concerned that yet another book by someone who claims he is "hearing God’s voice" but offers no biblical basis for thinking that to be true, will point Christians away from God’s Word and we will become distracted by a man who is a self-proclaimed prophet.

The prophets have spoken. There is no more to say. Even those who will rise up in the last days will proclaim nothing new, but simply reiterate what the prophets of old have written.

Yet we let our Bibles collect dust while we chase after modern-day authors.

 

[PlainWord]

Yes, we can know the season and the season is here. Rev 13:1-4 is happening right now.

 

[tanach]

Yes, we can know the season and the season is here. Rev 13:1-4 is happening right now.

I am not exited about Blood Red Moons in September. If you want to know why check out this web site
www.jhm.org/resources/upcomingevents

John Hagee has written a book about Blood Moons and tribulation yet his church is planning a fun day of food, fellowship and Games on 23 OCTOBER 2015

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

I am not exited about Blood Red Moons in September. If you want to know why check out this web site
www.jhm.org/resources/upcomingevents

This needs a different link, Tanach. It goes to John Hagee has written a book about Blood Moons and tribulation yet his church is planning a fun day of food, fellowship and Games on 23 OCTOBER 2015

Gotta love it! Now that's "real" faith!

 

[DiscipleDave]

Any time is 'A good time for the tribulation to start'. The first Atomic bomb test would have been a good time but it didn't start then. The Hadron collider is only doing what occurs in nature all the time. The only difference is that the collider makes it happen under controlled conditions so that it can be 'observed'

Here is a Truth. When God's wrath does start (7 year Tribulation Period) People will not repent of their sinning, repent of their continual living in sins, they will NOT repent, INSTEAD they will blame something else for all the Earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcano's, tsunamis, and Weather anomalies, that is happening all over the world and what seems to be simultaneously. But make no mistake about it, there will be Something that mankind does, that the whole world can blame instead of looking to God and repenting.

^i^ Responding to Post # 55