Should the US accept asylum seekers from Central America?

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craigb9876

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Were not everyone who accepeted christ in the bible his brothers and sisters so why are they not yours. We cpuld help all the poor in this country and the rest of the world if we really want to.
 

willfollowsGod

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No, we should not accept this caravan of illegal immigrants from Central America, they posted on social media their demands, one of them was that we disobey our immigration laws and allow them in and another was that they did not believe in borders. Craig, even God is for borders, he even has a wall and gates in the New Jerusalem. God does not support illegal immigration, in fact in the Old Testament, those foreigners who decided to follow the God of Israel had to assimilate into the Jewish culture, which included following their laws. These aliens that are trying to enter our country are trying to make us pity them and force us to have compassion. Sadly, so many news networks are being hoodwinked by their pleas, instead of examining their demands on social media, which they made plain and clear what they want. They should come in legally and not illegally, they should not being given more privileges over those who come in legally. We have laws for a reason, to maintain order instead of chaos. That does not make us evil Christians, that makes us Christians who want to follow God's law ultimately as well as the law of the country we are from, unless that law goes against what God says in the OT and NT, especially if it is repeated in both, though there is at least one exception to that rule. Thanks. God bless. :)
 

Magenta

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Nah! Not Toronto! Toronto is in Ontario, so they are bilingual. Quebec! The whole providence. And then have them enjoy the language barriers. lol
All of Canada is officially bi-lingual, but the reality is, that French is not the second language in a lot of the country. It would be Cantonese or Mandarin here in the major cities of the west coast province of British Columbia (Cantonese? Mandarin? I get them mixed up. It's all Greek to me!).
 

Magenta

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Were not everyone who accepeted christ in the bible his brothers and sisters so why are they not yours. We cpuld help all the poor in this country and the rest of the world if we really want to.
So why aren't you out there right now, "helping" them??? More than one of us has strongly suggested you put your money where your mouth is. Go feed the starving billions. Open your home to the homeless. Your refusal to do so is oppressing them, according to you.
 

jameen

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Any Yanks can give food, toys and shelter to these immigrants from South America while they live there on the border for a while until the court approved the asylum to anyone of them.

The US gov't did not invite them in the 1st place.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Any Yanks can give food, toys and shelter to these immigrants from South America while they live there on the border for a while until the court approved the asylum to anyone of them.

The US gov't did not invite them in the 1st place.
The term “Yank” may can be considered pejorative by Americans...just a piece of friendly advice:).
 
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Were not everyone who accepeted christ in the bible his brothers and sisters so why are they not yours. We cpuld help all the poor in this country and the rest of the world if we really want to.
Whenever your actions start matching your mouth, I'll start listening.

What you're really doing is sitting back and waiting for you guys/y'all/youse/You'all to get their butts in gear, so you can watch them at work. There is no hint of "we" in your whining. There is only an air that "I'm better than you, because I want YOU to fix it."

You've got mouth all right, but honestly, I bet you don't lift a finger... ever. AND, I don't bet unless it's a sure thing.
 
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All of Canada is officially bi-lingual, but the reality is, that French is not the second language in a lot of the country. It would be Cantonese or Mandarin here in the major cities of the west coast province of British Columbia (Cantonese? Mandarin? I get them mixed up. It's all Greek to me!).
All of Canada is bilingual, except for the providence of Quebec. They're bilingual too, however, they will only speak French and pretend they can't understand English. Every country has a group that everyone else laughs at. The States have New Jersey. (And I'm from NJ, so not quite the put-down it sounds like.) Canada has Quebec. lol
 
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Any Yanks can give food, toys and shelter to these immigrants from South America while they live there on the border for a while until the court approved the asylum to anyone of them.

The US gov't did not invite them in the 1st place.
Any Filipino can do that. So, why aren't you?

(BTW, no I can't. I live 2500 miles away, and have to be careful with our finances. A bit presumptuous of you to think all Americans ought to be driving to Texas just because more people are trying to knock down our door and barge in. And very presumptuous of you to tell people in another country what they have to do, all the while it's no skin off your nose one way or the other.)
 

jameen

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Any Filipino can do that. So, why aren't you?

(BTW, no I can't. I live 2500 miles away, and have to be careful with our finances. A bit presumptuous of you to think all Americans ought to be driving to Texas just because more people are trying to knock down our door and barge in. And very presumptuous of you to tell people in another country what they have to do, all the while it's no skin off your nose one way or the other.)
This is a forum where I can post my opinions and don't consider it presumptuousness sir.

Past US administrations were well known to interfere in the affairs of other countries and yet an American here is annoyed when I posted my opinion about a current issue in the US.
 
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This is a forum where I can post my opinions and don't consider it presumptuousness sir.

Past US administrations were well known to interfere in the affairs of other countries and yet an American here is annoyed when I posted my opinion about a current issue in the US.
Yes. Because that American didn't start or enact those policies. She simply happens to live in that country. Should we personally hold you responsible for every act your government does? If not then you shouldn't do it to others.
 
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No, we should not accept this caravan of illegal immigrants from Central America, they posted on social media their demands, one of them was that we disobey our immigration laws and allow them in and another was that they did not believe in borders. Craig, even God is for borders, he even has a wall and gates in the New Jerusalem. God does not support illegal immigration, in fact in the Old Testament, those foreigners who decided to follow the God of Israel had to assimilate into the Jewish culture, which included following their laws. These aliens that are trying to enter our country are trying to make us pity them and force us to have compassion. Sadly, so many news networks are being hoodwinked by their pleas, instead of examining their demands on social media, which they made plain and clear what they want. They should come in legally and not illegally, they should not being given more privileges over those who come in legally. We have laws for a reason, to maintain order instead of chaos. That does not make us evil Christians, that makes us Christians who want to follow God's law ultimately as well as the law of the country we are from, unless that law goes against what God says in the OT and NT, especially if it is repeated in both, though there is at least one exception to that rule. Thanks. God bless. :)
Hi Will
You have me intrigued...what is the one exception to the rule then? I love what you wrote in this post btw:)
 

willfollowsGod

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Hi Will
You have me intrigued...what is the one exception to the rule then? I love what you wrote in this post btw:)
This is off topic and not connected to the OP, but notice I said at least one exception, there might be more. There is a verse in the OT that goes contrary to what has now become the status quo when it comes to sexuality according to God's design and not solely on human imagination and feeling which our culture is now accepting, celebrating, and demanding that Christians get in line or else.

Deuteronomy 22:5
A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.

This goes contrary to current cultural experimentation that they are encouraging the youth and adults to get engaged in. This is slightly different than the plays where men dressed up as women to play feminine roles especially in Shakespeare's day and maybe other places as well. Now this verse (Deut 22:5) might be hinted at in the New Testament but it is not necessarily clear unless one knows the Greek language well and the translation one has tries as much as possible to abide by that language, even though at times it is hard to know what exactly is being said or hinted at since the English language is one way and the Greek is more multi-faceted, with layers of meaning. Ok, back to the topic at hand.
 

RickyZ

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I say we treat people with the same laws as their home country.

If their home country lets people in freely and taxes it's residents to support immigrants, then we do the same for those people.

But since most central and south American countries will weld you into a cell for life if you cross illegally, we ought to be building border jails not walls.

People will find ways to mitigate walls. But I don't think many will do the same to get into jail!
 
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7seasrekeyed

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No, I don't believe that the US should. Maybe Canada would be willing to take them in as it is a huge geographical area that is sparely populated. Perhaps Quebec.

is this a joke? if it is, then ha ha

but if you are serious, you don't know very much about Canada

would you like them to live on the permafrost?

the reason so much is sparsely populated is because it is not as habitable as the nice large cities which are all within one days driving distance from the border

small towns and rural areas would not be suitable for people who expect handouts and great medical care

and the fisheries are just not what they used to be and Quebec?

Quebec does not want them because the do not speak French.

Quebec would send their kiddies to a Catholic French speaking school where they would be ostracized and unable to communicate

but wait...they probably do not speak English either

maybe Trudeau has room. He can turn the Parliament buildings into cheap housing

the US has plenty of room in the western states...I know...I've been all over them...lots and lots of room
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I never said that we were opressing them but it is our duty as followers of christ to help the poor and those is need. We need to be like the good samaritan your thinkinh is just like the person im yhe story og the good samaritan who walks on the other side of the road avoiding those who need help

how about everyone waiting in line legally and paying to have their turn with lawyers, judges, homeland etc etc?

why should fence jumpers who cross illegally be put in front of those who do the right thing?

America has, without fail, been THE country to help the poor and those 'in need'

you don't know what you are talking about

Canada has also extended the same and actually taken in thousands of Muslims and given them 10,000.00 and free healthcare and housing.

legitimate Canadians can wait in line for their healthcare that they have paid into all their lives while so called refugees are rushed to the front

it's like a pyramid with the pointy end on the ground and the big flat end on top...it cannot be maintained

I do not understand you guys are christians but you do not believe in the teachings of jesus? Are you really christians then because it seems like your faith is lacking!
really?

Jesus taught us to break laws and allow criminal behavior and in fact prefer them to those who are responsible and legal?

whose faith is lacking? maybe understanding is lacking on your part
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Canada has vast expanses of geographically uninhabitable areas, which is why it may look sparsely populated to an outsider. Migrating people coming here usually do not want to be sent to unpopulated areas, or into the Arctic Circle, or even Quebec, where they would have to learn French, but to the big cities, which are already overpopulated. For instance, metropolitan Toronto has a population of something like five million people. It is true that America's population is ten times greater than ours, though. However, we do not want cities like New York or Los Angeles, either.

People want to come to our countries to reap the benefits of programs they have never paid into.
too funny

I wrote my post before reading yours

Oh Canada!
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Any Yanks can give food, toys and shelter to these immigrants from South America while they live there on the border for a while until the court approved the asylum to anyone of them.

The US gov't did not invite them in the 1st place.
so could Mexico

Yanks? oh brother :rolleyes:

this is simply another invasion. gotta stop

the word legitimate has lost its meaning it seems