Should the US accept asylum seekers from Central America?

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Billyd

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Yes! If they are seeking asylum from a place where they under a valid continuous threat of severe bodily harm or death if they remain in their home country.

This political nonsense going on our border can be easily handled. Load them on a plane, and interview them on their return trip home. If any qualify for asylum, fly them back on the plane's return home. I doubt that we will find more than a dozen or so who actually qualify.
 

Magenta

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I never said that we were opressing them but it is our duty as followers of christ to help the poor and those is need. We need to be like the good samaritan your thinkinh is just like the person im yhe story og the good samaritan who walks on the other side of the road avoiding those who need help
You are confused. The story of the good Samaritan concerned ONE person in need of help, who was already a citizen. Plus, anyone can see that you DID use a saying of Jesus and applied it to this specific situation, as if America was oppressing those seeking asylum. Your attempted denial of this easily ascertained fact just looks like a deliberate attempt to deceive on your part.

Tell you what: why don't you go down to your nearest homeless shelter, and invite everyone there to live at your place with you. Feed them and clothe them with no expectation of return from them, while they eat you out of house and home, and while you are at it, invite any beggar you see on the street to join you all. Otherwise, YOU are oppressing them, and going against the express words of God. You said so yourself. So man up, and do please let us know how it goes.
 

Magenta

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No, I don't believe that the US should. Maybe Canada would be willing to take them in as it is a huge geographical area that is sparely populated. Perhaps Quebec.
Canada has vast expanses of geographically uninhabitable areas, which is why it may look sparsely populated to an outsider. Migrating people coming here usually do not want to be sent to unpopulated areas, or into the Arctic Circle, or even Quebec, where they would have to learn French, but to the big cities, which are already overpopulated. For instance, metropolitan Toronto has a population of something like five million people. It is true that America's population is ten times greater than ours, though. However, we do not want cities like New York or Los Angeles, either.

People want to come to our countries to reap the benefits of programs they have never paid into.
 

Magenta

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Correction: Metropolitan Toronto's population as of 2016 was greater than 6.5 million. Some sources say just under 6 million. That is a lot of people. The population of the whole of British Columbia is not even that much :eek: Much of Ontario's population centres around the Great Lakes.
 

hornetguy

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Canada has vast expanses of geographically uninhabitable areas, which is why it may look sparsely populated to an outsider. Migrating people coming here usually do not want to be sent to unpopulated areas, or into the Arctic Circle, or even Quebec, where they would have to learn French, but to the big cities, which are already overpopulated. For instance, metropolitan Toronto has a population of something like five million people. It is true that America's population is ten times greater than ours, though. However, we do not want cities like New York or Los Angeles, either.

People want to come to our countries to reap the benefits of programs they have never paid into.
We don't really want them, either....
 

razor17

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Jesus also said to pay taxes....which many of the "asylum seekers" don't do.....what's Christian about that?!?!
 

tourist

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Correction: Metropolitan Toronto's population as of 2016 was greater than 6.5 million. Some sources say just under 6 million. That is a lot of people. The population of the whole of British Columbia is not even that much :eek: Much of Ontario's population centres around the Great Lakes.
That's a lot of people.

The population of Tampa / St. Pete metropolitan area where I live is only 3 million. When I moved to Florida the population was only 12 million. Currently it is 21 million. Most of it is located on the Atlantic and Gulf coast's except for Orlando, another city where I used to live. The population of the metro area there is 3 million too but of course, on any given day there are over a million tourist as well. In my opinion the most congested city in Florida to drive in. Takes you over 15 minutes just to drive to your local 7/Eleven that's only a mile away for a Slurpee.

It was kind of neat living so close to Walt Disney World though which was about an hour driving distance. Been there many times. It is neat seeing people and different cultures from all over the world.

The sad thing about my years in Florida is that the furthest south that I have been is Sarasota. I have never seen the everglades or been to the Florida Keys. Most of my time has just been spent working and trying to survive.
 
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Should the Yanks let them in from the border?
Sure, we can send them to the Philippines!

(Actually we do take in people seeking asylum, then vet them, then decide if they can stay. The problem is the flood coming up from Mesa-america aren't seeking asylum. They're sneaking in and hoping not to be caught. And most of the ones who aren't caught are here to sell their two biggest exports -- drugs and children slaves.)
 
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To start with the term Asylum Seeker is being misused by the west. The original definition was someone who was fleeing from persecution in their own country. Many of those being labelled with the term are not under persecution. Another catagory are refugees who are victims of war or natural disasters. The people subject to this thread are illegal economic migrants' My view is that they should not be allowed entry but to apply through the legal channels. The same applies everywhere else including the UK
Actually Mesa-america is a mess. Grow up there and you will be taken away from your parents at around ten years old either to help the drug trade or to be sold as slaves. And, if the parents object, the family is killed.

But the stupid part is they don't ask for asylum. They try running our borders. We're really a friendly nation for asylum seekers. Not so friendly with the sneaking thing though.

If Americans really understood what was happening down south, and it was played up in the press, I strongly suspect we wouldn't have a problem heading down south with soldiers and doing what we did Iraq and Afghanistan. Mind you, we made a mess of that too, because we start wars, but don't like to finish them, but, at this time, I think making a big enough mess in Central America to dismantle the cartels would start a civil war the kind of which the citizens could finish right.
 

maxwel

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Asylum seekers...

so...

that makes America an asylum?



Ya know, most people try to get OUT of asylums.
 
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I never said that we were opressing them but it is our duty as followers of christ to help the poor and those is need. We need to be like the good samaritan your thinkinh is just like the person im yhe story og the good samaritan who walks on the other side of the road avoiding those who need help
Go for it. The Good Samaritan was a person, not a nation. So you want to help the people south of America? Go for it! Do God's will!
 
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When does the well run dry?
When people can stay home and expect their children to grow up, be healthy, not be used as mules and slaves, and the adults can get jobs that can afford them what they want out of life. (Which would require firing all the corrupt politicians and police. Corrupt politicians = 90% of their politicians. Unknown figures for cops.)
 
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I do not understand you guys are christians but you do not believe in the teachings of jesus? Are you really christians then because it seems like your faith is lacking!
Hey, dude! Why blast other people? You're the Christian. Go for it. Put your money and time where your mouth is.
 
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First point: Why can they not seek 'asylum" in Mexico if they are "oppressed in their country? They are already there!

Second: If they are so gung ho to come and be American, why are they waving the flags of the Countries they are being "oppressed" by?

Third: How ridiculous to say we aren't being Christian by allowing every person on Earth to break our laws and come here illegally. Not too mention the incredible generosity America, and American Christians have shown through ALL sorts of relief efforts.

This caravan is a scam orchestrated by those who hate America's freedom and capitalistic economy. They are using these people to achieve their evil ends of borderless countries and global socialism.

Why not use all resources to transform THEIR countries into a capitalistic society governed by an American style Constitution?

Last point: You who say let them all in, do you have locks on your doors? Any fences around YOUR property? Why do YOU not let anyone and everyone roam through YOUR house?
Ed? I live in Philadelphia. I'm proud of being a Philadelphian, but embarrassed to death over how my city is being run. And, I do have problems living in this city because of our government. (Just stopped being able to get reduced rates for public transportation, because disabled people are supposed to be able enough to walk several blocks to get proper card to get cheaper fairs. Can't go to Center City anymore with John, because there is no place to sit and rest. Travel outside the city once a month because I don't give up drinking DIET soda this easily, but can't afford it at city prices.) I understand flag waving AND held down by the very place I live. And, I don't have it as bad as those people have it.
 
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No, I don't believe that the US should. Maybe Canada would be willing to take them in as it is a huge geographical area that is sparely populated. Perhaps Quebec.
Yeah, give them to Quebec. That would be fun. Everyone in Quebec only speaks French, and everyone in Central America only speaks Spanish. Granted, both groups have quite a few English speakers, but no one will respond if it's in English. lol
 
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Correction: Metropolitan Toronto's population as of 2016 was greater than 6.5 million. Some sources say just under 6 million. That is a lot of people. The population of the whole of British Columbia is not even that much :eek: Much of Ontario's population centres around the Great Lakes.
Nah! Not Toronto! Toronto is in Ontario, so they are bilingual. Quebec! The whole providence. And then have them enjoy the language barriers. lol
 

tourist

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Nah! Not Toronto! Toronto is in Ontario, so they are bilingual. Quebec! The whole providence. And then have them enjoy the language barriers. lol
That was my suggestion as well.
 

tanakh

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I never said that we were opressing them but it is our duty as followers of christ to help the poor and those is need. We need to be like the good samaritan your thinkinh is just like the person im yhe story og the good samaritan who walks on the other side of the road avoiding those who need help
Dont you have anyone who is poor and in need in the US? We have them here. Western countries spend millions on overseas aid. As I remember Christ told the Parable after being asked by someone who his neighbor was. Personally I dont consider someone from overseas who sneaks in to the UK on the back of a truck my neighbor.