Spokane NAACP prez who claims black heritage outed by white parents

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TecumsehGR

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The statistics we have for those "transgendered" who had lived ten + years in their "new gender" show that 2/3 of them still commit suicide. It isn't the answer they had hoped to find.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd love to see some studies. I was under the impression that only around 41% of transgendered adults had even attempted suicide, let alone committed suicide.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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I haven't really seen any liberal media outlets doing this, at least not any large enough to be on my radar. Now, I did see a USA Today piece that was more along the lines of Well, since we all originate from Africa, can't we all claim to be black? tripe. If you're linking to a romance novelist with 1,600 followers on Twitter to support this argument, then I'm guessing you haven't ran across it too much either.
Guess again.

Melissa Harris-Perry thinks its possible Rachel Dolezal actually is black That's CNN

MSNBC's Dyson implies Rachel Dolezal is more black than Clarence Thomas Obviously, MSNBC

Whoopi Goldberg on Rachel Dolezal: 'If she wants to be black, fine' ABC's 'The View'

The liberal media thinks she's just fine claiming for seven years to be black when she isn't, ignoring all her other blatant lies about her family life, whether or not her adopted brothers are her 'sons,' her manipulations to get into Howard University -- predominantly and traditionally a black school that was blown away when she showed up for her Masters program. her being white and all. That latter would be discrimination if the tables were reversed, but no one has said word one about it.

Think about it another way. What kind of grief does Condaleeza Rice get from the liberal media for being black and conservative/ You have already seen on this post how they treat Clarence Thomas. But this lying witch? Free pass. And a reality show.
 
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Sue your old school. I'm sure somehow they are responsible for making you feel ungood about being "height challenged" and unable to fulfill the height you feel you deserve.

"I feel, therefore I am."
They are completely responsible. They never let me stand in the back for class pictures.
 
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TecumsehGR

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Guess again.

Melissa Harris-Perry thinks its possible Rachel Dolezal actually is black That's CNN

MSNBC's Dyson implies Rachel Dolezal is more black than Clarence Thomas Obviously, MSNBC

Whoopi Goldberg on Rachel Dolezal: 'If she wants to be black, fine' ABC's 'The View'

The liberal media thinks she's just fine claiming for seven years to be black when she isn't, ignoring all her other blatant lies about her family life, whether or not her adopted brothers are her 'sons,' her manipulations to get into Howard University -- predominantly and traditionally a black school that was blown away when she showed up for her Masters program. her being white and all. That latter would be discrimination if the tables were reversed, but no one has said word one about it.

Think about it another way. What kind of grief does Condaleeza Rice get from the liberal media for being black and conservative/ You have already seen on this post how they treat Clarence Thomas. But this lying witch? Free pass. And a reality show.
Thanks! Seems I vastly underestimated the Left's idiocy. They just outdo themselves time and time again. Ha.
 
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TecumsehGR

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Welcome to your manhood, Bobbie Boucher.
Meh, I've known they were awfully dumb. They're getting dumber too, as more and more younger people are buying into third-wave feminism which denounces non-existent things like rape culture and the overarching patriarchy, while fixating on privilege. Trolls have been utilizing the terms transracial and wrongskin as mockery for a while now though, so it's hilarious to see Leftists use them with a straight face.
 
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Maybe she was born "feeling" black? Its like the gay thing...she is clearly white but she "feels" black
I was going to say the same thing...maybe she was born that way.....NOT!
 
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I was going to say the same thing...maybe she was born that way.....NOT!
Just seen today when they confronted her about her lie....she basically said their is no evidence that she is white...The lady still wont admit her lie, but just digs herself deeper everytime she talks.
 

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What does being black feel like?

Is it racist to define?

Like I feel I can play basketball. Is that what black feels like? Sounds racist.

I feel like I have rhythm. Is that what being black feels like? Again, racist.

I feel like I really like fried chicken and bbq. Is that what black people like, too?

If that's all there is then I am definitely black too. In fact, I am more black than all of you... lol

I don't like rap music though, so maybe that's the dividing line? Maybe I'm not black after all.

This is really confusing. What am I then? Half black? 3/4 black? Am I just black on the inside... (I know someone was thinking it...)
 
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TecumsehGR

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Just seen today when they confronted her about her lie....she basically said their is no evidence that she is white...The lady still wont admit her lie, but just digs herself deeper everytime she talks.
“I haven’t had a DNA test," Ms. Dolezal continued. "There’s been no biological proof that Larry and Ruthanne are my biological parents. I’m not necessarily saying that I can prove they’re not, but I don’t know that I can actually prove they are. I mean the birth certificate was issued a month and a half after I’m born. Certainly there were no medical witnesses to my birth. It was in the woods.”

Ms. Dolezal continued, “I definitely am not white. Nothing about being white describes who I am. So, you know, what’s the word for it? The closest thing that I can come to is if you’re black or white, I’m black."

She went on, "I’m more black than white. On a level of values, lived experience currently. In this moment, that’s the answer. That’s the accurate answer from my truth. But I hope the dialogue continues to push against, ‘What is race? What is ethnicity?’”

Rachel Dolezal: There is "No Biological Proof" I am not Black | The Social Memo
 
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“I haven’t had a DNA test," Ms. Dolezal continued. "There’s been no biological proof that Larry and Ruthanne are my biological parents. I’m not necessarily saying that I can prove they’re not, but I don’t know that I can actually prove they are. I mean the birth certificate was issued a month and a half after I’m born. Certainly there were no medical witnesses to my birth. It was in the woods.”

Ms. Dolezal continued, “I definitely am not white. Nothing about being white describes who I am. So, you know, what’s the word for it? The closest thing that I can come to is if you’re black or white, I’m black."

She went on, "I’m more black than white. On a level of values, lived experience currently. In this moment, that’s the answer. That’s the accurate answer from my truth. But I hope the dialogue continues to push against, ‘What is race? What is ethnicity?’”

Rachel Dolezal: There is "No Biological Proof" I am not Black | The Social Memo
Her pictures as a girl show her with pale skin, red hair ...looking like the Wendy's girl ?
 
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Meh, I've known they were awfully dumb. They're getting dumber too, as more and more younger people are buying into third-wave feminism which denounces non-existent things like rape culture and the overarching patriarchy, while fixating on privilege. Trolls have been utilizing the terms transracial and wrongskin as mockery for a while now though, so it's hilarious to see Leftists use them with a straight face.
You're alright, little Brother. Glad you're here. :cool:
 
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Miri

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This thread is amusing and I am as confused about the woman's stance as
anyone.

That being said there can be genuine real problems for a person who is
mixed race like me and others. (people might want to check out the mixed girl tag thread).

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/113331-mixed-girl-tag.html


Speaking for myself it can be hard being brought up in a white family when you
are mixed race. As a young child I use to tell people I just had a sun tan to explain
to friends why I was not white and I thought of myself as white for a while.

So please be aware that the issue of confusion over race can be absolutely
genuine.


When you are mixed race you have to cope with the difficulties of not been in
either one camp or the other - an entirely man made problem I would add. Really it
does not matter at all but people seem to want to make it matter.

Unfortunately the woman in the article does no favours to people who genuinely have
issues with their race identity.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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This thread is amusing and I am as confused about the woman's stance as
anyone.

That being said there can be genuine real problems for a person who is
mixed race like me and others. (people might want to check out the mixed girl tag thread).
Miri, while your posts carry valid points normally worth discussion, they are irrelevant to Rachel Dolezal. She's not of mixed race. Both her parents are white. In fact, here's a picture of her as a senior in high school.



Yes, this is the same person ...



She ain't black. Can't even pass for black without a lot of makeup and hair makeover. As a mixed race person, you should be offended by her lies.
 
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Miri

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I'm not offended by either her (just sad for her that
she is either mixed up or maybe she finds it easier
to identify with non whites), nor am I offended
by any of the respondents.

I just wanted to show that such issues are not
always that clear cut - no quite so black and white.
No pun intended.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Not saying you're wrong, but I'd love to see some studies. I was under the impression that only around 41% of transgendered adults had even attempted suicide, let alone committed suicide.
Normally I try to hold my replies to one post, but that can get confusing, particularly in light of the size of my post to Miri using all those photos. You might check this out, from the U.S. Online Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, National Center for Biotechnology Information. It's an interesting study, and it's one the trangendered community, as well as LGBT as a whole, doesn't like to talk about.

Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden

Results

The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
I emboldened and underlined the key finding of the study. The numbers look small, but they aren't. The way the Swedish study was done listed suicide or attempted suicide as a percentage of overall population, and given the relatively small size of the Swedish transgendered population, and 8.5% rate of attempted suicide, for example, represents about 80% of that population.

Being placed in "the right body" isn't really the answer they're looking for. They won't find answers in "improved psychiatric and somatic care" either. The answer they are looking for is Jesus, and they need to hear about Him.
 
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Normally I try to hold my replies to one post, but that can get confusing, particularly in light of the size of my post to Miri using all those photos. You might check this out, from the U.S. Online Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, National Center for Biotechnology Information. It's an interesting study, and it's one the trangendered community, as well as LGBT as a whole, doesn't like to talk about.

I emboldened and underlined the key finding of the study. The numbers look small, but they aren't. The way the Swedish study was done listed suicide or attempted suicide as a percentage of overall population, and given the relatively small size of the Swedish transgendered population, and 8.5% rate of attempted suicide, for example, represents about 80% of that population.

Being placed in "the right body" isn't really the answer they're looking for. They won't find answers in "improved psychiatric and somatic care" either. The answer they are looking for is Jesus, and they need to hear about Him.
I appreciate the study, but all this shows is that they're still more likely to attempt or commit suicide than those with same birth sex, which should entirely be expected as they're still mentally ill regardless of whatever treatments they undertake. If you're going to argue transitioning does not alter outcomes for the better, then that would require a study among suffers of GID (transitioned vs. non-transitioned), not a study comparing outcomes of transitioned individuals vs. same birth sex individuals. Perhaps a better to demonstrate my point would be this: Suffers of schizophrenia that are undergoing pharmacological treatments (namely in the form of antipsychotics) are still at increased risks of suicide, impatient hospitalization, and unemployment when compared to the non-schizophrenic population at large, but that doesn't mean pharmacological treatments do not alter the outcomes of schizophrenics for the better.