Temple Mount comes on hot and heavy

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You do understand that Ezekiel was told to go to a group of people in his day. Ezekiel is NOT SPEAKING to someone 2,500 years LATER. A people's UNFAITHFULNESS to do what He tells them to do NEVER makes God out to be a liar when it is NOT DONE. This was to be the SECOND temple.
Wrong, Sarah, no offense. The second temple had already been built when Ezekiel wrote in what we call his fortieth chapter. Also, the temple in Ezekiel's vision did not have a curtain separating the Holy of Holies from the sanctuary. Clearly, the second temple did have such a curtain, as did the expanded version of that simple building Zerubbabel and Ezra built was "remodeled" by King Herod beginning in about 13 BC -- to the extent that he razed that building and started over. So what many historians, even Jewish scholars among them, call the "second temple" destroyed in 70 AD was actually the third temple.
 
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Thanks crossnote and ahwatukee,

I know that there is a tunnel between the Temple Mount and the Jerusalem side (for lack of better wording). The Israeli Goverment forbidden Jewish travel through the tunnel. I uninformed I'm sure.
 
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I can't remember a time when they did not have strife. Israel is not really recognized as a country, but more a "problem" no one knows what to do about. That's sad because while I do believe the Palestinians had the highest population at one time, I do not believe they had much of a governing body. It was more a region with little law. I side for Israel and always have. I believe Israel would take good care of the Palestinians, if they'd let them. Of course, if I were Palestinian, I'd want my land back with all the trimmings. If I was Israel, I'd be tempted to purchase land somewhere else. Move the whole population. Then leave the land in waste as they go, just as it was when they arrived in '48 or so.
 

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Israel stops Palestinian PM from visiting Temple Mount | The Times of Israel

Israel on Friday prevented Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah from entering the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where strict security measures have been in place following days of violence.

The ban came as Hamdallah’s convoy was en route to the site, where the al-Aqsa Mosque is situated, the Walla website reported. According to the Ynet news website, Hamdallah was not allowed into Jerusalem at all.
 
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... Israel is not really recognized as a country, but more a "problem" no one knows what to do about ...
I think their duly recognized ambassadors in over 100 countries around the world might take issue with that opinion.
 
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I think their duly recognized ambassadors in over 100 countries around the world might take issue with that opinion.
Palestine has ambassadors, too, but I just don't consider them a nation, rather a dependent people living in a region, proudly hoping to take over what Israel has built.
 
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Palestine has ambassadors, too, but I just don't consider them a nation ...
The Palestinians don't have a nation, so they don't have ambassadors. They are known as "envoys" and have no official power, authority, or position. They are mostly window dressing.

Palestine has no U.N. seat, just observers. They have zero negotiating authority except that graciously granted them by other nations. On the other hand, Israel is a nation, with U.N. membership, a seat on the Security Council, and an elected government.
 
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Now it's Abbas and Infitada, sheesh...

Abbas warns of 'intifada risk' over Temple Mount | The Times of Israel

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas warned Tuesday of the “risk of an intifada” if clashes over Jerusalem’s Temple Mount continue, after a meeting with French leader Francois Hollande in Paris.
“What is happening is very dangerous,” Abbas said, calling on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to “stop” the chaos at the flashpoint holy site, deemed holy by both Jews and Muslims and home to the al-Aqsa Mosque.
 

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Hanin Zoabi: Temple Mount should be Jew-free | The Times of Israel

Joint (Arab) List MK Hanin Zoabi said there is no reason for Jews to be on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, telling an Israeli newspaper in an interview published Friday that there is no proof of a Jewish connection to the site.“The name is al-Aqsa, not the Temple Mount, and there is nothing there for Jews,” Zoabi told the Hebrew-language Makor Rishon. “It’s a place for Muslims only, according to all the agreements signed after the occupation of Jerusalem, and the agreements between Jordan and Israel. The Israelis understood that they occupied Jerusalem but are not allowed to occupy al-Aqsa; now they are trying to occupy al-Aqsa too.”


Asked if she accepts that the biblical temples once stood on the Temple Mount, Zoabi said that “the temple is not part of the political reality in which we live. This is what was in the past. In the past they also used to call the entire homeland Palestine. Today there is occupation and there is al-Aqsa, and it’s a place of prayer for Muslims only. Additionally, the existence of the temple is not verified scientifically.”

I still say, this will get volatile.


 
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From your lined article:

Erdogan said that "the struggle over the mosque doesn't belong just to Muslims but also to Christians."

"So Israel must understand that what it is doing is a crime as it relates to human rights, which is compounded by the hundreds of crimes it has committed against the Palestinian people," the Turkish leader said.
Please. Someone tell me how the Temple Mount has any meaning for Christians. Anything will do. Just toss it out there
 
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