Trump didn't bother to show up in Situation Room for botched Yemen raid

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Sirk

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Hahahaha, me being a liberal do gooder... that's cute. Everything you said about vetting is irrelevant to what I've said about Muslims. It's as if because I believe there are Muslims who DON'T want to kill unbelievers, I am suddenly against Trump's "extreme vetting" and I'm against Trump's temporary ban... Oh, and it makes me a liberal too. I have to be an ignorant bigot or I am a liberal who wants radical Islamic refuges.
If you didn't make stuff up I might consider you sensible.
 

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He say that didn't. He said "Muslims are patient warriors". I don't see the the word "all" or every single one. You just heard what you wanted to hear and are now on some holier than thou mission to be the "tolerant" one.

I can't speak for tommy but the element of Islam that wants to destroy you is patient...and even smarter than you obviously.
First, all muslims are evil cowards, second the US was there to kill some known terrorist and collect intel, third, all muslims want all who are not muslim dead, so it affects us too.

I see St. George's closs above your name, and you are on a Christian forum, so I can assume the muslims want you dead too.
I already posted where he said "all Muslim"... You accuse me of hearing what I wanted to hear... yet when I posted this a few posts back you didn't respond to it... Maybe it's you not wanting to read what was said and not me "hearing what I want to hear"?

I can't make you read what was said... I can only post what was said... if you refuse, then you can live in your safe space bubble where no one can disagree with you.
 
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Nah, deflection. I don't protest any of what Trump is doing in terms of his temporary ban. It's not a ban on Muslims. I'm not even talking about the subject...

I'll repeat myself as often as I need to... I'm - talking - about - Tommy's - blanket - statement - about - all - muslims - being - evil - and - patient - warriors... I - am - not - speaking - out - against- Trump - and - his - temporary - ban -, I'm - just - speaking - out - against - ignorant - bigots - who - think - all - Muslims - want - unbelievers - to - die... even - the - ones - who - died - protecting - the - country - they - live - in.
Can you not admit that an investigator or interrogator HAS to view and assume every incoming immigrant is a possible terrorist? If he/she did not, they would not be doing their job, and even you would be among those screaming for their heads if they ignored a possible threat, and the one that they thought was "nice", and just let come on in, blew up your child's school.
 
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Can you not admit that an investigator or interrogator HAS to view and assume every incoming immigrant is a possible terrorist? If he/she did not, they would not be doing their job, and even you would be among those screaming for their heads if they ignored a possible threat, and the one that they thought was "nice", and just let come on in, blew up your child's school
Which is why I'm for extreme vetting... I've already stated my objection isn't about vetting immigrants... =/
 

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If you didn't make stuff up I might consider you sensible.
Yes, I make stuff up... You say Tommy didn't use the term "all Muslims", I post the quote as well as the post number... That's me, hacked his account and posted it for him.
 

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They are patient warriors, infiltrating our society, just waiting to strike.
I see no where in this post the word all or every single one.
 

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I see no where in this post the word all or every single one.
First, all muslims are evil cowards, second the US was there to kill some known terrorist and collect intel, third, all muslims want all who are not muslim dead, so it affects us too.

I see St. George's closs above your name, and you are on a Christian forum, so I can assume the muslims want you dead too.
Do you see it now? lol

P_reh then reminded Tommy that there are Muslims in the military who fight against radical Islam... Tommy then called them, "patient warriors".

If you refuse to acknowledge Tommy said "all muslims" and called the Muslims P_reh mentioned (in the US military) "patient warriors" then we should end this discussion. I can't make you read what was said.
 

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"All muslims" being evil cowards includes the ones fighting on the battlefield so he can have his free speech to call them "patient warriors" and "evil cowards"... Does it not? I thought "all" encompassed every type of Muslim...
 
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Yes, I make stuff up... You say Tommy didn't use the term "all Muslims", I post the quote as well as the post number... That's me, hacked his account and posted it for him.
We get it. We get it. You've admirably defended your friends. Good man.

Now let it go. Do you possibly think your words here are going to dissuade him of his feelings? I have been involved with Law Enforcement most of my life, and I have learned that many of them just get sick and tired of the criminal element of ANY population. They will not survive if they take the attitude that every man is innocent until proven guilty. That luxury is reserved for the courts where the defendants are unarmed and present no threat to the judges.
 

Smoke

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We get it. We get it. You've admirably defended your friends. Good man.

Now let it go. Do you possibly think your words here are going to dissuade him of his feelings? I have been involved with Law Enforcement most of my life, and I have learned that many of them just get sick and tired of the criminal element of ANY population. They will not survive if they take the attitude that every man is innocent until proven guilty. That luxury is reserved for the courts where the defendants are unarmed and present no threat to the judges.
I'll be more than happy to "let it go" if he refuses to read the post where he blanketed "all Muslims". I've done my part and brought it to his attention, he's refused it, and I can wash my hands knowing I did my best to show the truth as well as show I "don't just hear what I want to hear" and that I "don't make stuff up."

Speaking of the presumption of innocence, it's what separates our country from many parts of the world. If a law enforcement officer is fed up with that concept, they are in the wrong profession.
 
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I'll be more than happy to "let it go" if he refuses to read the post where he blanketed "all Muslims". I've done my part and brought it to his attention, he's refused it, and I can wash my hands knowing I did my best to show the truth as well as show I "don't just hear what I want to hear" and that I "don't make stuff up."

Speaking of the presumption of innocence, it's what separates our country from many parts of the world. If a law enforcement officer is fed up with that concept, they are in the wrong profession.
I've also been in the Military.

Do you think even one soldier or marine considers not squeezing the trigger on a total stranger 100 yards away because of some rhetoric that "our great nation" is above slaughtering whole populations in the name of 'oil' or 'territory'? Don't kid yourself with all that propaganda you hear. We condemn our enemies to being GUILTY, so we can claim INNOCENSE. Trump nailed it the other night with Bill O'Riley......... We have more INNOCENT blood on our collective national hands than many of those little countries involved in dust-ups all around the world.
 
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Sirk

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Do you see it now? lol

P_reh then reminded Tommy that there are Muslims in the military who fight against radical Islam... Tommy then called them, "patient warriors".

If you refuse to acknowledge Tommy said "all muslims" and called the Muslims P_reh mentioned (in the US military) "patient warriors" then we should end this discussion. I can't make you read what was said.
Ok. Fair enough. Didn't see that one til now. I have a question for you now. Are all Muslims in our military not part of the radicalized community of Islam? Because it seems like you are making a blanket statement in the opposite sense of tommy.
 

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You are wasting your time.........there is no truth in these guys.........they are truly a sad group of folks blinded by their hate.


Do you see it now? lol

P_reh then reminded Tommy that there are Muslims in the military who fight against radical Islam... Tommy then called them, "patient warriors".

If you refuse to acknowledge Tommy said "all muslims" and called the Muslims P_reh mentioned (in the US military) "patient warriors" then we should end this discussion. I can't make you read what was said.
 

Smoke

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You are wasting your time.........there is no truth in these guys.........they are truly a sad group of folks blinded by their hate.
You might be right. It took 4 or 5 posts of my saying the same thing for them to realize I wasn't talking about any type of ban but instead responding to an ignorant blanketed statement made about "all Muslims" (including the ones who died in the service of the US).

I mean, I have emotions as well... but just because I can contain my emotions, actually READ what people are saying, respond to substance rather than attack them personally doesn't mean I'm some sort of liberal sociopath. I've seen more objective people willing to discuss substantively on reddit.
 

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Ok. Fair enough. Didn't see that one til now. I have a question for you now. Are all Muslims in our military not part of the radicalized community of Islam? Because it seems like you are making a blanket statement in the opposite sense of tommy.
I don't know every Muslim in the military... for this reason I refuse to make such a blanketed statement. It only "seems" like I'm making a blanketed statement to you when I object to "all Muslims" being evil cowards who are patient warriors. It's kind of sad really.

As for the Muslims I've personally known in the military ... lets just say they were less "radical" than the people who think "all Muslims" are "evil cowards".

Question for you: Do you think "all Muslims" are "evil cowards" who are "patient warriors", waiting for the death of all unbelievers?
 
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Sirk

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I don't know every Muslim in the military... for this reason I refuse to make such a blanketed statement. It only "seems" like I'm making a blanketed statement to you when I object to "all Muslims" being evil cowards who are patient warriors. It's kind of sad really.

As for the Muslims I've personally known in the military ... lets just say they were less "radical" than the people who think "all Muslims" are "evil cowards".

Question for you: Do you think "all Muslims" are "evil cowards" who are "patient warriors", waiting for the death of all unbelievers?
This is exactly what cowards do who dont' want to actually progress or move forward in their lives. Just want to constantly harp thru the poor visibility of the muddy waters they like to swim in. The fact is that I don't really care how smart or cultured you think you are. I'd just like to leave a country worth leaving for my kid that isn't overrun with stupidity. Might be too late.....sad.
 

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This is exactly what cowards do who dont' want to actually progress or move forward in their lives. Just want to constantly harp thru the poor visibility of the muddy waters they like to swim in. The fact is that I don't really care how smart or cultured you think you are. I'd just like to leave a country worth leaving for my kid that isn't overrun with stupidity. Might be too late.....sad.
We apparently want the same thing... The difference is Rehbein called out stupidity and ignorance and you refused to see what your buddy said until I realized it was fruitless posting what he said. You'd rather lump it as "muddying the waters" instead of speaking out against ignorant blanketed statements. I get it... he's your buddy... I hope kids, including your own, grow up with the courage to call out ignorance when they see it, even if it is their buddy saying it.
 
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Sirk

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We apparently want the same thing... The difference is Rehbein called out stupidity and ignorance and you refused to see what your buddy said until I realized it was fruitless posting what he said. You'd rather lump it as "muddying the waters" instead of speaking out against ignorant blanketed statements. I get it... you said he's your friend... I hope kids, including your own, grow up with the courage to call out ignorance when they see it, even if it is their buddy saying it.
Quit being a baby. I acknowledged it when you showed me what he said. What would you have me do at this point? Shove a knife in his back....get a voodoo doll in his likeness and sit in my bathroom in the dark and stab it with the shank I filed down from the toothbrush I used to scrub my toilet with. Geez man...take a chill pill.
 

Smoke

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Quit being a baby. I acknowledged it when you showed me what he said. What would you have me do at this point? Shove a knife in his back....get a voodoo doll in his likeness and sit in my bathroom in the dark and stab it with the shank I filed down from the toothbrush I used to scrub my toilet with. Geez man...take a chill pill.
Quit being a baby? lol I posted it numerous times and you would quote me quoting it and you still kept saying you couldn't see it. When you finally did acknowledge he said "all Muslims" you didn't even condemn it... you just deflected.

I mean, you can be hyperbolic and ask what you're suppose to do and then suggest stabbing him... how about "Mmmm, he's wrong for saying that..." instead of accusing me of "making things up" or only "reading what I wanted to read". There is not an ounce of humility in your posts.
 

Sirk

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Quit being a baby? lol I posted it numerous times and you would quote me quoting it and you still kept saying you couldn't see it. When you finally did acknowledge he said "all Muslims" you didn't even condemn it... you just deflected.

I mean, you can be hyperbolic and ask what you're suppose to do and then suggest stabbing him... how about "Mmmm, he's wrong for saying that..." instead of accusing me of "making things up" or only "reading what I wanted to read". There is not an ounce of humility in your posts.
Oh...so now if I don't state the obvious or just jump on your bandwagon I'm not humble? Lol. I don't care about what kind of peeing contests you get in on here. If you pee farther than everyone good for you man....awesome....way to go....that's some great plumbing you got there. I'll fight my own battles thank you very much and you should as well.

Oh....and please grant me forgiveness oh great one for not seeing the post you made showing what tommy said until such time as I saw it. It was a grave error on my part for not seeing it when I was expected to see it. Amen.