Trump/Pence pray for our nation
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Mitspa, Mitspa, Mitspa...
1.) A man asked Trump if he asked for forgiveness to God. They didn't ask what sins he asks God to forgive him. Don't spin this.
2.) Since when is asking a Christian if they ask for forgiveness "too personal"? I would HOPE all Christians will say with great appreciation, "Yes! I love my Lord and Savior and ask for His forgiveness for the sins I have commented. It's the fundamental reason God sent His only begotten Son to this planet, to pay for our sins." If this is too personal, perhaps bible discussion forum should be closed.
3.) Voldemort said, "Personally, I don't have enough information nor am I able to read Trump's heart to give my opinion." yet you're still trying to suggest he is pretending to know Trump's heart. No one knows Trump's heart... but we know what is in his mind... and that is "He doesn't need to repent to God."
1.) A man asked Trump if he asked for forgiveness to God. They didn't ask what sins he asks God to forgive him. Don't spin this.
2.) Since when is asking a Christian if they ask for forgiveness "too personal"? I would HOPE all Christians will say with great appreciation, "Yes! I love my Lord and Savior and ask for His forgiveness for the sins I have commented. It's the fundamental reason God sent His only begotten Son to this planet, to pay for our sins." If this is too personal, perhaps bible discussion forum should be closed.
3.) Voldemort said, "Personally, I don't have enough information nor am I able to read Trump's heart to give my opinion." yet you're still trying to suggest he is pretending to know Trump's heart. No one knows Trump's heart... but we know what is in his mind... and that is "He doesn't need to repent to God."
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Lol Mistpa... No one is saying "You have to repent for every specific sin you commit to be forgiven, otherwise you're not forgiven for the sins you committed in error of not remembering when you sinned, knowingly or not." This is a straw man argument.
When we ask God for forgiveness, it doesn't have to be done by naming each individual sin, but rather showing sorrow for our sins and willingness/desire to do them no longer in prayer/communication with our Father in Heaven.
1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
It doesn't read, "Well, you accept Christ as your Savior, no need to confess/repent anymore."
And to answer your question, I watched the entire video, not just the section where he doesn't ever ask God for forgiveness... Your point?
When we ask God for forgiveness, it doesn't have to be done by naming each individual sin, but rather showing sorrow for our sins and willingness/desire to do them no longer in prayer/communication with our Father in Heaven.
1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
It doesn't read, "Well, you accept Christ as your Savior, no need to confess/repent anymore."
And to answer your question, I watched the entire video, not just the section where he doesn't ever ask God for forgiveness... Your point?
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If they wasn't a picture ..some would be upsets because we have no picture ... I know prayer and I see what was going on and who had the faith in the situation ..it was Pence and his wife. But I also know this that those who humble themselves with someone of faith to pray are in the eyes of God praying and seeking His help and guidance.
I like smoking out of one-hitters. That said, there are dozens of anti-Trump threads with hundreds of insults hurled at Trump supporters. I'm not surprised at the attacks from classless, juvenile, narcissistic Marxists, but I am surprised you have stumbled as you have because you're a man of God who has integrity. Quack quack.
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The largest demoninations in the world believe that very thing (Itemized sin)..including the RCC .. Its my understanding that Trumps church was more a Calvinist type church ..salvation by election or whatever ..this question would not be the same to him as to most of us. and again I say I don't blame Trump for not going into a conversation about his personal understanding of forgivenss and when its needed to be ask for ... The scripture you quoted could be discussed for hours in its context ..I just about guarantee you don't really understand it as you think you do
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The largest demoninations in the world believe that very thing (Itemized sin)..including the RCC .. Its my understanding that Trumps church was more a Calvinist type church ..salvation by election or whatever ..this question would not be the same to him as to most of us. and again I say I don't blame Trump for not going into a conversation about his personal understanding of forgivenss and when its needed to be ask for ... The scripture you quoted could be discussed for hours in its context ..I just about guarantee you don't really understand it as you think you do
He nails his own coffin when he says, "I don't ask for forgiveness. If I do something wrong, I just try to make it right. I don't bring God into that picture." We can't make our sins "right"... only the Savior can do that for us, but how can the Savior do this for us when we "don't bring God into the picture"?! He also later says, "I could say 'absolutely!' and everyone would [clap]..." meaning, he knows very well why Christians would think it's important to repent.
What is it with you people who seem to be thinking we are electing a priest or preacher rather than a president?...... And why do you expect someone who has about as much knowledge of all these technical Spiritual specifics you want to bring up as any other citizen walking the street, calling themselves "Christian", to have the depth of Biblical knowledge of a Theologian?
He was very cruelly being baited and put on the spot to give a snap answer that 95% of people calling themselves "Christians" would be hard pressed to reply to.
He was very cruelly being baited and put on the spot to give a snap answer that 95% of people calling themselves "Christians" would be hard pressed to reply to.
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