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K
The ultimate proof of an American political realignment is the American Civil War itself.
If you ask an American why the civil war was fought, he/she will typically give you two answers:
A.) To free the slaves - which is incorrect
B.) States Rights
It's what defined the Republicans and Democrats in their day. It's even more pronounce than pro-life/pro-choice between liberals/conservatives.
The Democrats, technically, had a point when they said the states have the right to leave the union. The unenumerated rights (rights not specifically in the constitution) are assumed to belong to the states. The Democrats/rebel states felt it was their right to leave when they wish. Republicans disagreed. They championed a strong national government rather than a strong state government.
Fast forward to today, it couldn't be further from the truth. The Democrats want bigger government, the Republicans want minimal government.
If you ask an American why the civil war was fought, he/she will typically give you two answers:
A.) To free the slaves - which is incorrect
B.) States Rights
It's what defined the Republicans and Democrats in their day. It's even more pronounce than pro-life/pro-choice between liberals/conservatives.
The Democrats, technically, had a point when they said the states have the right to leave the union. The unenumerated rights (rights not specifically in the constitution) are assumed to belong to the states. The Democrats/rebel states felt it was their right to leave when they wish. Republicans disagreed. They championed a strong national government rather than a strong state government.
Fast forward to today, it couldn't be further from the truth. The Democrats want bigger government, the Republicans want minimal government.
It's not a conspiracy because it's not secret lol. I like you by the way Kim, I just disagree.
The reason for the Civil War is secession, which is treason. The Southerners are taught a revised version of history in which they claim that the South seceded because of state's rights, not slavery, in an attempt to make their racist past seem less racist. However this is somewhat deceptive because the state's right in question was the expansion of slavery into the West. The system of slavery in the Old South was highly immoral, and this why it was opposed in the North and why it was tied closely to the abolition movements, from which arose the GOP.
It's not about small government or big government at all, it's about morality and nationalism. The Southerners betrayed the country and attacked America, therefore were they destroyed utterly, which is the nationalistic aspect of it. The origin of the Republican Party has moreso to do with Christian morality as where the Democrat party is moreso based upon a libertine view of individualism. This is still true today and is shown in such issues as the abortion issue.
The reason for the Civil War is secession, which is treason. The Southerners are taught a revised version of history in which they claim that the South seceded because of state's rights, not slavery, in an attempt to make their racist past seem less racist. However this is somewhat deceptive because the state's right in question was the expansion of slavery into the West. The system of slavery in the Old South was highly immoral, and this why it was opposed in the North and why it was tied closely to the abolition movements, from which arose the GOP.
It's not about small government or big government at all, it's about morality and nationalism. The Southerners betrayed the country and attacked America, therefore were they destroyed utterly, which is the nationalistic aspect of it. The origin of the Republican Party has moreso to do with Christian morality as where the Democrat party is moreso based upon a libertine view of individualism. This is still true today and is shown in such issues as the abortion issue.
K
I think you're great too. You've been respectful while disagreeing. A lost trait with many posters. 
The constitution didn't mention succession or slavery. Each state decided if they wanted to be a slave state or not. It was considered an unenumerated right. The north went against the constitution, and rightfully so, because I agree racial slavery is wrong.
Nevertheless, this was one of the many flaws of America's founding fathers and the constitution. Thankfully, it's been amended.
The constitution didn't mention succession or slavery. Each state decided if they wanted to be a slave state or not. It was considered an unenumerated right. The north went against the constitution, and rightfully so, because I agree racial slavery is wrong.
Nevertheless, this was one of the many flaws of America's founding fathers and the constitution. Thankfully, it's been amended.
K
But the mere fact that they did amend the constitution (13th amendment), after the end of the Civil War (December 1865), is validation that the states had those unenumerated rights. Just because racial slavery is evil and morally wrong, doesn't mean that the constitution didn't originally allow for it.
Same goes with succession. Succeeding wasn't treason spelled out in the constitution. Article III says treason is waging war with the US. The south wanted succeed peacefully, the north resisted.
Same goes with succession. Succeeding wasn't treason spelled out in the constitution. Article III says treason is waging war with the US. The south wanted succeed peacefully, the north resisted.
, she's absolutely right. They claim the Civil War was over states rights but states rights to what? None of their rights were being violated. The north and the south for both agrarian cultures the only difference was the North paid their farm hands where the South thrived only free labor and slavery. Shortly after Abe Lincoln won the election, North Carolina was the first state to secede from the union after publishing an article saying that they were willing to go to war to fight for their right to keep their slaves. The rest of the southern states soon followed suit. Many would say that since only a few people actually owned slaves that the Civil War could not possibly have been fought over slavery. However this is not true being that even the poorest white family was still higher on the social ladder than the negro slave. So even though many of them did not actually own any slaves, they were still willing to fight to defend the system of slavery.
I think you're great too. You've been respectful while disagreeing. A lost trait with many posters.
The constitution didn't mention succession or slavery. Each state decided if they wanted to be a slave state or not. It was considered an unenumerated right. The north went against the constitution, and rightfully so, because I agree racial slavery is wrong.
Nevertheless, this was one of the many flaws of America's founding fathers and the constitution. Thankfully, it's been amended.
The constitution didn't mention succession or slavery. Each state decided if they wanted to be a slave state or not. It was considered an unenumerated right. The north went against the constitution, and rightfully so, because I agree racial slavery is wrong.
Nevertheless, this was one of the many flaws of America's founding fathers and the constitution. Thankfully, it's been amended.
Lol that's part of the Southerner's revisionism. It's very well known in America that the Southerners are taught a revised half-true version of the Civil War to make the Confederacy seem to be in a better light. The fact is that secession is treason, and indeed waging war on America is treason. The Confederacy after seceding began to raid American mints and federal properties. Eventually the South formally began the war with a direct aggressive attack on Fort Sumter.
Lol no actually, the revisionism in the South is the propaganda. Saying the US Civil War was fought over state's rights is a deceptive half truth. Merely ask what states' rights? The answer is the expansion of slavery.
A good example though of my earlier point about the well known fact the Southerners are taught from a young age a revisionist view of the US Civil War.
It's kinda like saying WW2 was fought over a nation's right to expand its territory for lebensraum. Which is half true, but the full truth is rather that Hitler was an ambitious madman trying to conquer the world, and failed.
I just think it's time for Christians to get their priorities straight. While everyone was going crazy about Kim Davis, there was Christian genocide in Africa and I assume still is now. Since Islam is the hot topic, believe there are currently 40 countries under Sharia law and I don't hear anyone talking about that
C
@GodIsSalvation People like you really make me mad. How can you run a county without a set out guidelines. The Constitution protects your rights and ideas. The reason you are allowed to be on this site and say the things you say is because of the Constitution. Without those rules, I could kill you because you think differently about things than I do. Why do you oppose it? Because you want to do something illegal? Or because your just a liberal with their head up their rear?
C
If you ask me, Lincoln should have just let us (the south) go. His Emancipation Proclamation was no good to anyone but to blow their nose on. You can't free slaves in places you do NOT own. Yes, during the War Between The States, the Confederate States seceded from the Union, therefore, forming their own nation. Another reason he was trash is because there were slaves in the north as well. They just did not publicize them as much.
Actually I agree with this, but then in defense of the topic I did not make it and it is a pertinent News topic and discussion for Christendom given the current life and situation as well as in NT government particularly is government is fair game for us and spoken good of. Lol indeed maybe it's one of the lesser facets, and yet one of the biggest.
Also there are many other topics about the nations and pplz under siege from islam, the wars, the state of affairs, breaking news stuff, pertinent issues. It's fair to talk about them, but it's fair to talk about America to, but then we kinda dominate the discussion on CC lol. I been trying to look more into the Phillipines election stuff personally, though haven't commented on it here on CC. They're all important, but alas we were born here in America Dude and these people before us went and made us the kings of America by their laws and culture, so it's our right almost to the point of obligation to manage and scrutinize and observe our little horse race for viceroy.
Trump though and his supporters are pplz too, they shall not be disregarded or excommunicated or whatever devices against them for they are trying to bring about a renaissance for all Christendom, not just America, but to drive any major change in Christendom in our time now America has to be re-strengthened. America has to be regenerated in Christianity, there is no other way but Jesus. The whole West will collapse if America degenerates much further or falls outright and so also will almost every other economy, country, military, technology, civilization, law, order, peace, your churches of stone, everything you can think of, and not just in America, but all over the world in the nations that love us and the ones that hate us too.
Thinking about it, indeed beloved greyhead Sir Billy is correct, my apologies for saying you have no Christian qualities and being flippant with you.
Also there are many other topics about the nations and pplz under siege from islam, the wars, the state of affairs, breaking news stuff, pertinent issues. It's fair to talk about them, but it's fair to talk about America to, but then we kinda dominate the discussion on CC lol. I been trying to look more into the Phillipines election stuff personally, though haven't commented on it here on CC. They're all important, but alas we were born here in America Dude and these people before us went and made us the kings of America by their laws and culture, so it's our right almost to the point of obligation to manage and scrutinize and observe our little horse race for viceroy.
Trump though and his supporters are pplz too, they shall not be disregarded or excommunicated or whatever devices against them for they are trying to bring about a renaissance for all Christendom, not just America, but to drive any major change in Christendom in our time now America has to be re-strengthened. America has to be regenerated in Christianity, there is no other way but Jesus. The whole West will collapse if America degenerates much further or falls outright and so also will almost every other economy, country, military, technology, civilization, law, order, peace, your churches of stone, everything you can think of, and not just in America, but all over the world in the nations that love us and the ones that hate us too.
Thinking about it, indeed beloved greyhead Sir Billy is correct, my apologies for saying you have no Christian qualities and being flippant with you.
See you mistake me for an anarchist. In my view the Constitution does not provide order, but rather chaos as it is basically secularism and lawlessness codified. There is really nothing in the Constitution forbidding you from killing me at all for example lol. Unless you are a member of the federal government or one of their menial servants we are not even bound to their absurd laws. Indeed for our time now the Constitution is the primary source and justification for the government being infiltrated and turned against us and Christianity. For example with the government protecting or outright mandating pagan religions and heresies like the evolution stuff in your schools, Islam, IRS scandals, the abortion stuff, Supreme Court ruling to allow homosexuality, having the government monitor Christians and churches, etc. It's an almost endless list of problems frankly.
Lol in fact if I were to say have utmost loyalty to the Constitution then I'd have to regard you as insignificant being 16 and your opinion matters not. But I think the Constitution be scrap paper, praise Jesus and may you increase in great strength and love in the days of your youth Sir Colt.
Lol in fact if I were to say have utmost loyalty to the Constitution then I'd have to regard you as insignificant being 16 and your opinion matters not. But I think the Constitution be scrap paper, praise Jesus and may you increase in great strength and love in the days of your youth Sir Colt.