Trump Supporters on Hitler

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tanakh

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KimPetras said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump said "I think I'd get along very well with Hitler."

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This says a lot about Trump. Putin is a major cause of the European immigration crisis by backing Assad and forcing half of Syrian population to head for Europe by bombing them. One Paper here calls the immigration crisis Putins weapon of mass destruction because he aims to destabilise Europe. When trump builds his wall will he enploy ex East German Stasi
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tanakh

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What puzzles me is that you had enough Republican Candidates to vote for without turning to Trump. Does his success say somethings wrong with Republicam voters or something very wrong with the republican candidates?
 
p_rehbein

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Sirk said:
So the principle of a secure border, better trade deals for America, a renegotiating nafta and gatt and so on and so forth is afront to Christ? Should I stop calling myself a Christian since in your mind I am an afront to Christ?
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Those are not "principles." Just saying. :) They are "positions" on Political/Economical issues. Principles are what a person believes and will not compromise...........it's called Integrity. Of this, Trump is "void." Void means ......."zero, zip, zilch, nada!" :)

Now, Trump's idea to "secure" our Southern Border will not work. JUST building a wall will not secure our Southern Border, and I assure you, when and if this wall is built, it is we, the American Tax Payers who will pay for it, NOT Mexico.

As well, ALL of the Candidates are in support of securing our Nations Southern Border, so, that is not a reason to vote for Trump in and of itself.

IF "principles" are the qualification we are looking for in a President, then we had better look far away from Trump.
 
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I would like a President that could make all of us proud. We can make that happen on a glad November day in 2020. The 2016 election is done down the drain...but we could be reducing the damage by voting Kasich.
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Kasich openly admits he would force Christians to accept the deviant homosexual lifestyle ..no matter what their convictions against it . Kasich is not a Christian nor a real conservative ...
 
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tanakh said:
This says a lot about Trump. Putin is a major cause of the European immigration crisis by backing Assad and forcing half of Syrian population to head for Europe by bombing them. One Paper here calls the immigration crisis Putins weapon of mass destruction because he aims to destabilise Europe. When trump builds his wall will he enploy ex East German Stasi
to guard it?
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The insanity of that barbaric Islamic religion is the reason folks are fleeing the middle east and the only thing that has ever brought any stability to that region, is some sort of strongman. Liberals seem to think the world is some kind of fairytale?
 
Dude653

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Adolf Hitler promised to make Germany great again, while running a campaign based entirely on propaganda. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
 
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p_rehbein said:
Those are not "principles." Just saying. :) They are "positions" on Political/Economical issues. Principles are what a person believes and will not compromise...........it's called Integrity. Of this, Trump is "void." Void means ......."zero, zip, zilch, nada!" :)

Now, Trump's idea to "secure" our Southern Border will not work. JUST building a wall will not secure our Southern Border, and I assure you, when and if this wall is built, it is we, the American Tax Payers who will pay for it, NOT Mexico.

As well, ALL of the Candidates are in support of securing our Nations Southern Border, so, that is not a reason to vote for Trump in and of itself.

IF "principles" are the qualification we are looking for in a President, then we had better look far away from Trump.
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We the most powerful nation in history cant secure our own border? That's just insanity and liberal propaganda.

As far as the money? One month of the benefits, illegals take in welfare from our nation, would pay for the fence.
 
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Adolf Hitler promised to make Germany great again, while running a campaign based entirely on propaganda. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
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Sounds like Obama ..
 
Sirk

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Dude653 said:
Adolf Hitler promised to make Germany great again, while running a campaign based entirely on propaganda. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
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Adolph Hitler was also a gay, one nutted man with a micro penis. He obviously needed his "safe" zone to be the entire world.
 
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Adolph Hitler was also a gay, one nutted man with a micro penis. He obviously needed his "safe" zone to be the entire world.
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He was a gay socialist... a leftist like Hillary and Obama How the left-wing propaganda machine have made hitler "right-wing" is amazing ?
 
Bushido8000

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He was a gay socialist... a leftist like Hillary and Obama How the left-wing propaganda machine have made hitler "right-wing" is amazing ?
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He was also a nationalist. An EXTREME nationalist, just like Trump. The idea that someone is "left wing" or "right wing" because of a few ideas is false. Maybe Hitler's policies leaned far left but his ideals and worldviews leaned way, wayyyy far right.

Had he been an Anarcho-communist...

Nevermind that though. Did you guys see Diaz put McGregor down?! WOW! I didn't see that one coming! He was really out of shape too.
 
Sirk

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If we don't have borders and rule of law then the raiding hordes will define us and enforce their culture on us. A measure of nationalism is necessary for the survival of a people and their way of life. If we don't choose to protect ourselves someone will choose for us.
 
Bushido8000

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If we don't have borders and rule of law then the raiding hordes will define us and enforce their culture on us. A measure of nationalism is necessary for the survival of a people and their way of life. If we don't choose to protect ourselves someone will choose for us.
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I think this is an indoctrinated belief that is motivated by fear and the people of Afghanistan proved it twice with Russia and the US. These weren't soldiers that beat these superpowers. They were just people. Just like ISIS continues to grow in the wake of continuous pummeling.

If the culture of a people is one that doesn't wish to be ruled by others, they wont be. The idea that a post-gunpowder society can be unwillingly oppressed by a bigger, stronger society indefinitely is a complete myth and is one that is proven wrong time and time again (Example: Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine's pro EU revolution, and Afghanistan again).

Borders do nothing but create alienation, which leads to an us vs. them mentality. The problem is that we don't protect ourselves. We have a military fight all the way on the other side of the world "protecting" us. We cry for gun ownership but have no intention to ever use them against foreign or domestic threats. Many people cling onto their guns in case the government starts taking our rights away, which they already have.

So what culture would you say are we trying to protect here?
 
Sirk

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I hear what you're saying but the facts just don't bear that out. It's utopian wishful thinking to think that all the world's people are reasonable and wish to live at peace with you. And in regards to all of military industrial complex excursions into Asia and the middle east. It's never been anything but them tricking us to think that it's anything other than their advancement of globalism and a world without borders under their control. The food, the money, the resources, the land, you and me.....everything. Good people need rule of law, justice and a sense of national pride. But the big but is, they have to know how to self govern as well as hold accountable those that they elect to represent them.
 
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By the way bushido. I really like the lyrics to a song by rush called territories. It outlines exactly what you are saying about borders and flags and nationalism. But the current state of the world relinquishes it to pipe dream status until the Lord returns.
 
Bushido8000

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But the big but is, they have to know how to self govern as well as hold accountable those that they elect to represent them.
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This is the problem with government though. You can't hold rulers accountable AND declare them rulers. That's why the US government (and every other government) goes out of control. You can't grant a group of men and women power over you, grant them the power to enforce power over you (military and police), and then say "well, you guys better be responsible...or else". It will fail every time.

And I would say that good people need law and justice (which an Anarcho-capitalistic or Agorist society would provide despite the myths) but good people are enemies of national pride, as a country makes you part of a nation, rather than a part of the human race. When people have nations fight for them instead of fighting for themselves, they demand things of the nation that they themselves wouldn't feel is morally correct, but they feel free from guilt because they are having a third Godless party do it for them (Example: bombing hospitals in Afghanistan or setting 73 men, women, and children on fire in Waco, TX)

I understand what you are saying though. I just don't think that a lesser of 2 evils is acceptable because it is still evil, ya know?
 
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This is the problem with government though. You can't hold rulers accountable AND declare them rulers. That's why the US government (and every other government) goes out of control. You can't grant a group of men and women power over you, grant them the power to enforce power over you (military and police), and then say "well, you guys better be responsible...or else". It will fail every time.

And I would say that good people need law and justice (which an Anarcho-capitalistic or Agorist society would provide despite the myths) but good people are enemies of national pride, as a country makes you part of a nation, rather than a part of the human race. When people have nations fight for them instead of fighting for themselves, they demand things of the nation that they themselves wouldn't feel is morally correct, but they feel free from guilt because they are having a third Godless party do it for them (Example: bombing hospitals in Afghanistan or setting 73 men, women, and children on fire in Waco, TX)

I understand what you are saying though. I just don't think that a lesser of 2 evils is acceptable because it is still evil, ya know?
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I don't know if it's as much as freeing themselves from guilt as it is not being interested in the details of how a free society must be maintained. To busy watching football or lusting after the next iPhone.
 
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