What you call the cops on Jesus?
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Its funny how I could support myself on just over minimum wage 30 years ago and now people cannot.
I think you would have to define the parameters of not making ends meet. What lifestyle are you talking about? How well are finances being taken care of, etc.....
unless you really believe 40+million americans truly need food stamps.
I think you would have to define the parameters of not making ends meet. What lifestyle are you talking about? How well are finances being taken care of, etc.....
unless you really believe 40+million americans truly need food stamps.
A conservative cannot be a fascist.
Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Make sure you read down a paragraph or two and see fascism is about totalitarianism not the small government and personal responsibility ideals of conservatism.
You would have to show me one statement I have made that said I believe in slavery or wages artificially low.
Nice try...nah not really. Too easy actually
Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Make sure you read down a paragraph or two and see fascism is about totalitarianism not the small government and personal responsibility ideals of conservatism.
You would have to show me one statement I have made that said I believe in slavery or wages artificially low.
Nice try...nah not really. Too easy actually
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Hi SonInMe,
I live in Italy right now. Somebody came to my door selling clothes. I told him I don't need clothes but if he needs money, I have money to give. I gave him money. He asked for a phone as well and I gave him a phone. I didn't ask him why he didn't work more or if he was struggling. I know very well that foreigners have a very difficult time finding work in Italy. Do you believe it is wrong for me to do this?
I do not believe it is biblical to pull out a checklist when you are about to give to someone. Let's be honest: Would it be worse to give to someone who actually didn't need it (and to add them to your prayer list and witness to them) or to not give to someone who actually did need it (and then try to witness to them although you gave them nothing even though you had something to give or don't witness to them at all)?
I live in Italy right now. Somebody came to my door selling clothes. I told him I don't need clothes but if he needs money, I have money to give. I gave him money. He asked for a phone as well and I gave him a phone. I didn't ask him why he didn't work more or if he was struggling. I know very well that foreigners have a very difficult time finding work in Italy. Do you believe it is wrong for me to do this?
I do not believe it is biblical to pull out a checklist when you are about to give to someone. Let's be honest: Would it be worse to give to someone who actually didn't need it (and to add them to your prayer list and witness to them) or to not give to someone who actually did need it (and then try to witness to them although you gave them nothing even though you had something to give or don't witness to them at all)?
I will be the first to admit that surviving on minimum wage isn't easy. Like SonInMe 30 years ago I supported myself on minimum wage. It mean that I worked long hours or had a second job, I had multiple room mates until my income level increased but I did what I had to. Many younger people seem to have the impression that they should only have to work 40 hours a week and be able to afford all the niceties of life that people making more do.
I have guys that work for me that gripe about how much it costs to raise a family (we pay well above minimum wage) and how money is soooooo tight yet they fail to comprehend that cable TV, high speed internet, new cars, cell phones for the whole family, etc are not NECESSITIES. The younger generation has grown up with the idea that they are entitled to have all the toys in their younger years that older generations work their tails off for decades to achieve.
I have guys that work for me that gripe about how much it costs to raise a family (we pay well above minimum wage) and how money is soooooo tight yet they fail to comprehend that cable TV, high speed internet, new cars, cell phones for the whole family, etc are not NECESSITIES. The younger generation has grown up with the idea that they are entitled to have all the toys in their younger years that older generations work their tails off for decades to achieve.
About 10 years ago I had dinner with a couple who were social workers. The conversation was about the "poor" and hungry in our area. At the time this was central New Jersey. They contended that there were people going to bed hungry in our area. Now my wife and I have been blessed by the Lord. We are faithful to understand that all we have is God's anyway, and in an attempt not to sound pious, we give with a happy heart to God in various ways. I told these people (that were not Christians) that I would right then and there go the store and buy $100 of groceries to any person they knew of that were going hungry. After some hemming and hawing they changed the point they were making from people going hungry to the poor being OBESE and unable to buy healthy foods!
Are there people hurting and struggling in America? Absolutely! But we spend over $1 TRILLION a year in various forms of welfare. There is WIC, FOOD STAMPS, SCHOOL BREAKFAST,LUNCH,AND DINNER PROGRAMS. Not to mention housing,health care, heating assistance, just to name a few. True poverty is living in a box in Haiti, while feeding your kids cookies made literally from dirt.
Capitalism is the mechanism which allows wealth to be made so that the poor CAN be helped. Socialism has only proven to destroy lives, enslave people, and bring misery.
Are there people hurting and struggling in America? Absolutely! But we spend over $1 TRILLION a year in various forms of welfare. There is WIC, FOOD STAMPS, SCHOOL BREAKFAST,LUNCH,AND DINNER PROGRAMS. Not to mention housing,health care, heating assistance, just to name a few. True poverty is living in a box in Haiti, while feeding your kids cookies made literally from dirt.
Capitalism is the mechanism which allows wealth to be made so that the poor CAN be helped. Socialism has only proven to destroy lives, enslave people, and bring misery.
Way I see it both Capitalism and Communism hath failed. See 20th and 21st Century History (all of it) for proof.
As for the Criticism of Generations. Aye there is a lot to criticize on my generation and I could go all day on my generation and its woes. However I'd like to remind ye my fair Boomer and Xer generational brothers that it is your generations that have wielded a monopoly on power and still to this day wield and have the historical record for misuse of power.
For proof that ye should not blame my generation for the current age's woes just look to the fact that We Didn't Start the Fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50p-XScreM
[video=youtube;m50p-XScreM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50p-XScreM[/video]
As for the Criticism of Generations. Aye there is a lot to criticize on my generation and I could go all day on my generation and its woes. However I'd like to remind ye my fair Boomer and Xer generational brothers that it is your generations that have wielded a monopoly on power and still to this day wield and have the historical record for misuse of power.
For proof that ye should not blame my generation for the current age's woes just look to the fact that We Didn't Start the Fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50p-XScreM
[video=youtube;m50p-XScreM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m50p-XScreM[/video]
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Yeah I don't know why people didn't think of getting a job before. It's just so easy right.
I don't see anyone suggesting people shouldn't work for their livelihoods. If you read my post, you will see that I believe in hard work and integrity. What I'm criticizing is the cold hearted notion that anyone who is struggling is being lazy. I'm not advocating for Socialism here.
My dad just got laid off a couple of weeks. Our hosehold is composed of my parents and myself, and my two dogs. My mom doesn't work (and I believe isn't able to work in many places since she has had problems with bipolarism before), we pay rent, bills, gas,etc. I'm currently working and paying my own car since my dad can no longer help me, a car which was sold by someone from church too, and also helped me out by letting me pay him in payments. Some people from church have also helped my dad pay some things. Believe me, we don't feel awesome about relying on others for help, it is actually quite a humbling experience, and not very fun.
It's not easy to go from earning about $17-18 hr to nothing, and end up paying the same amount of money on bills, rent,etc. It's easy to say ''oh well I've survived on minimum wage so I don't know why everybody else is complaining'' when you don't know what they're going through and how they got there. There are people who are struggling to find jobs, there are circumstances you can't control, like a company closing down (what happened with my dad), illness, or even the economical situation of a country. So please don't paint everyone the same color, it is offensive and hurtful. This is not about Marxism or Capitalism, it's about realizing that life is hard and unpredictable under any economical system, and just as God gives, he also takes away. It is beautiful to see people willing to help when found in those situations.
I don't see anyone suggesting people shouldn't work for their livelihoods. If you read my post, you will see that I believe in hard work and integrity. What I'm criticizing is the cold hearted notion that anyone who is struggling is being lazy. I'm not advocating for Socialism here.
My dad just got laid off a couple of weeks. Our hosehold is composed of my parents and myself, and my two dogs. My mom doesn't work (and I believe isn't able to work in many places since she has had problems with bipolarism before), we pay rent, bills, gas,etc. I'm currently working and paying my own car since my dad can no longer help me, a car which was sold by someone from church too, and also helped me out by letting me pay him in payments. Some people from church have also helped my dad pay some things. Believe me, we don't feel awesome about relying on others for help, it is actually quite a humbling experience, and not very fun.
It's not easy to go from earning about $17-18 hr to nothing, and end up paying the same amount of money on bills, rent,etc. It's easy to say ''oh well I've survived on minimum wage so I don't know why everybody else is complaining'' when you don't know what they're going through and how they got there. There are people who are struggling to find jobs, there are circumstances you can't control, like a company closing down (what happened with my dad), illness, or even the economical situation of a country. So please don't paint everyone the same color, it is offensive and hurtful. This is not about Marxism or Capitalism, it's about realizing that life is hard and unpredictable under any economical system, and just as God gives, he also takes away. It is beautiful to see people willing to help when found in those situations.
Really? lol.
I have a father and I have a Father, and neither of them is the government.
You do not even have an inkling what inflation is unless you lived 1972-78.
I made 4.00 dollars an hour. That was about a dollar over minimum wage, but I made it. Wasn't easy.
Late ninties my family survived on 13 thousand dollars...net...a year for three years. A family of four. Wasn't easy...missed a bill or two, but was never hungry or cold. By the way, didn't take any government help either.
It can be done if you want to do it. Maybe your neighbor will have more stuff than you but don't get angry....or covet.
Wanna know how we got out of that? My wife wnet back to school, at first part time, then full time, with a full time job, and a family. 20 hour days.
She now works 7 days a week, 365 days a year....over 100 hours a week and between us, mostly her, we have a 6 figure salary.
Its called effort and sacrifice...not blame the rich guy or your circumstances. Wanna know why most people are not well off? They won't put the effort in...its just really really hard.
Not saying anyone should put that sacrifice in....it takes a toll and it ain't pretty but if you want to get ahead, you never are going to do that by coveting or excuse making.
I have a father and I have a Father, and neither of them is the government.
You do not even have an inkling what inflation is unless you lived 1972-78.
I made 4.00 dollars an hour. That was about a dollar over minimum wage, but I made it. Wasn't easy.
Late ninties my family survived on 13 thousand dollars...net...a year for three years. A family of four. Wasn't easy...missed a bill or two, but was never hungry or cold. By the way, didn't take any government help either.
It can be done if you want to do it. Maybe your neighbor will have more stuff than you but don't get angry....or covet.
Wanna know how we got out of that? My wife wnet back to school, at first part time, then full time, with a full time job, and a family. 20 hour days.
She now works 7 days a week, 365 days a year....over 100 hours a week and between us, mostly her, we have a 6 figure salary.
Its called effort and sacrifice...not blame the rich guy or your circumstances. Wanna know why most people are not well off? They won't put the effort in...its just really really hard.
Not saying anyone should put that sacrifice in....it takes a toll and it ain't pretty but if you want to get ahead, you never are going to do that by coveting or excuse making.
Individual charity is between you, who you give it to and God.
A guy came up to me in Walmart one night. ( I worked third shift at the time so it was about 2 am ). Gave some story and said he needed money for gas. I gave him some money and told him, if he was lieing, that was on him.
Another time I was in a grocery store and a woman asked me for some change. Being literal minded I said I had no change even though I had a couple dollars. Felt kinda bad until I saw her in line paying for three beers with change.
A guy from my small group saw someone begging for money outside of a small store one night, saying he wanted to buy food. So he went into the store, bought him a can of food. The guy took the can back in and exchanged it for wine.
Stewardship is also a part of being generous. Most of us do not have unlimited funds and you would want to truly help someone...not just throw money at people to make yourself feel good.
Because that is what we are really discussing here.
''How can I make myself feel good by being charitable.''
I would like to think christians would put helping someone before making themselves look good by being charitable.
Matthew 6:1-2
“Be careful not to practice your righteousness[SUP][a][/SUP] in front of people, to be seen by them. Otherwise, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.''
I know its common, when faced with uncomfortable truths to attack. I am used to being called insensitive and selfish when I suggest solutions to as much poverty as possible instead of following the popular socialist ideals. That people are better off being free and responsible than dependent and depressed.
Integrity is a hard sell today. Its just so much easier to hate rich people and scapegoat them enough to steal their monies and give them to the poor...oh wait. Thats not true!
Did ya know 70% of monies collected for social programs do not go to the people in need? It goes to the government.
Next time your caring democrat says he wants to help you, what he really is saying he wants to line his pockets with your money and hire his friends to government jobs.
Ahh, liberal compassion, gotta love it.
A guy came up to me in Walmart one night. ( I worked third shift at the time so it was about 2 am ). Gave some story and said he needed money for gas. I gave him some money and told him, if he was lieing, that was on him.
Another time I was in a grocery store and a woman asked me for some change. Being literal minded I said I had no change even though I had a couple dollars. Felt kinda bad until I saw her in line paying for three beers with change.
A guy from my small group saw someone begging for money outside of a small store one night, saying he wanted to buy food. So he went into the store, bought him a can of food. The guy took the can back in and exchanged it for wine.
Stewardship is also a part of being generous. Most of us do not have unlimited funds and you would want to truly help someone...not just throw money at people to make yourself feel good.
Because that is what we are really discussing here.
''How can I make myself feel good by being charitable.''
I would like to think christians would put helping someone before making themselves look good by being charitable.
Matthew 6:1-2
“Be careful not to practice your righteousness[SUP][a][/SUP] in front of people, to be seen by them. Otherwise, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.''
I know its common, when faced with uncomfortable truths to attack. I am used to being called insensitive and selfish when I suggest solutions to as much poverty as possible instead of following the popular socialist ideals. That people are better off being free and responsible than dependent and depressed.
Integrity is a hard sell today. Its just so much easier to hate rich people and scapegoat them enough to steal their monies and give them to the poor...oh wait. Thats not true!
Did ya know 70% of monies collected for social programs do not go to the people in need? It goes to the government.
Next time your caring democrat says he wants to help you, what he really is saying he wants to line his pockets with your money and hire his friends to government jobs.
Ahh, liberal compassion, gotta love it.