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In the case you posted, it very much is a religious maneuver. It is.
The cure for homosexuality is not yoga. The homosexuality is the truth. Faith. The Lord Jesus Christ.
(And didymos, here's a smiley! You know it is:
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Do you not know that yoga does not cure homosexuality. Homosexuality is a sin. Not just an act. Only Jesus can heal the sinner.
The cure for homosexuality is not yoga. The homosexuality is the truth. Faith. The Lord Jesus Christ.
(And didymos, here's a smiley! You know it is:
)Do you not know that yoga does not cure homosexuality. Homosexuality is a sin. Not just an act. Only Jesus can heal the sinner.
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I never understood Didy to conclude that yoga is an actual cure for homosexuality -- I just took this as him sharing a peculiar article, which is a good starting point for much discussion.
For example, some have the assumption that yoga is a false religion that should be avoided just like any other false religion. We discussed that here -- as a result of Didy sharing this article.
For example, some have the assumption that yoga is a false religion that should be avoided just like any other false religion. We discussed that here -- as a result of Didy sharing this article.
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Look any reasonable person could see what this is...you don't want to use reason...that's up to you ...
Did you read/respond to the initial post only -- or peruse the entire conversation?
...Or are you only responding to the thread's title?
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Didymos wrote: "The Bible clearly states homosexuality is a sin, but if people can be cured of it by practising yoga,
then that's the best proof there's nothing evil about yoga. Either that, or we're in the End Times, because:
How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. (Mark 3: 23-26 / NIV)"
People be cured of sin by yoga? Nope. Ain't happening. Okay, so if yoga is because "it cures homosexuality" what shall we say about voodoo practices? If someone comes along "Voodoo man cured me of hate." So now voodoo is okay.
Didymos tied religion to yoga. He supplies a verse that would have readers believe yoga (not the simple practice of meditation, but rather the meditation that is tied to several world religions) supports his statement.
Now I started off my morning in a positive mood. And I don't need transcendentalist teaching.
Go, before the wizards get you! Yoga is a religion of that guru sitting there in his religious garb. It is put forth as a religion in the OP.
then that's the best proof there's nothing evil about yoga. Either that, or we're in the End Times, because:
How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. (Mark 3: 23-26 / NIV)"
People be cured of sin by yoga? Nope. Ain't happening. Okay, so if yoga is because "it cures homosexuality" what shall we say about voodoo practices? If someone comes along "Voodoo man cured me of hate." So now voodoo is okay.
Didymos tied religion to yoga. He supplies a verse that would have readers believe yoga (not the simple practice of meditation, but rather the meditation that is tied to several world religions) supports his statement.
Now I started off my morning in a positive mood. And I don't need transcendentalist teaching.
Go, before the wizards get you! Yoga is a religion of that guru sitting there in his religious garb. It is put forth as a religion in the OP.
Yoga is a form of Hinduism. Its from a false religion. You must understand that by doing Yoga you are putting your Soul in danger of Hell fire.
God can and will free those who are trapped in the sin of Homosexuality. Will they ever be free totally of their desires? Probable not. But we do have freedom from sinning while walking in the Spirit with Jesus.
God can and will free those who are trapped in the sin of Homosexuality. Will they ever be free totally of their desires? Probable not. But we do have freedom from sinning while walking in the Spirit with Jesus.
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I see Didy's intention being that of claiming: Yoga is not evil.
Yes -- he does tie his statement concerning a "cure" for homosexuality to Mark 3:23-26.
Look at it this way: IF yoga can, in fact, "cure" homosexuality -- how can yoga be considered evil?
Personally, I would not go with this line of argument; it's a failed argument for many reasons.
However, if we step back for a moment and ask ourselves: What is yoga?
We find that yoga is an umbrella term for: religion, philosophy, and practices.
Christians who practice yoga only participate in the physical aspects of the discipline.
Yes, meditation and philosophy are included in the Hindu forms of Yoga.
Replace Hindu philosophy and meditation with Christian philosophy and meditation -- and now we have a Christian who practices yoga (as a physical exercise).
It's no different than pilates or hitting the gym or going for a walk, people! <-- This is my point.
Yes -- he does tie his statement concerning a "cure" for homosexuality to Mark 3:23-26.
Look at it this way: IF yoga can, in fact, "cure" homosexuality -- how can yoga be considered evil?
Personally, I would not go with this line of argument; it's a failed argument for many reasons.
However, if we step back for a moment and ask ourselves: What is yoga?
We find that yoga is an umbrella term for: religion, philosophy, and practices.
Christians who practice yoga only participate in the physical aspects of the discipline.
Yes, meditation and philosophy are included in the Hindu forms of Yoga.
Replace Hindu philosophy and meditation with Christian philosophy and meditation -- and now we have a Christian who practices yoga (as a physical exercise).
It's no different than pilates or hitting the gym or going for a walk, people! <-- This is my point.
Are we not continually warned about false signs and lying wonders? I must say its sad that a "Christian" would post this as if it would benefit others or really is a solution in some way to this issue...
Actually I really like it, I mean homosexuality is a sexual urge. We all deal with those urges, no matter what its pointed towards. And exercise is a great way to battle against urges. I strongly push the fact that we do not battle against the flesh, but we are tempted with these urges. And just like Christ spent 40 days in a desert, we can fight off urges by putting ourselves through training and discipline too.
Yeah, I mean put your faith in Christ first and all
But Christ does allow things like fasting, Im sure Hed be totally okay with good exercise, too You can work your body without doing it in the name of false idols There is a demonic spirit attached to yoga whether you recognize it or not.
It is the focus on movement and the mantras. Even if you do not say the mantras;they already abound because of what yoga really is in the spirit! It manifests itself in the NATURAL.
It is utter nonsense to say:yoga means this to me". In the same vein; I could say: my sisterinlaws Indian dream catcher is not harmful hanging in her house because she is not aware that it is to REALLY trap and keep evil spirits around the owner.
we wrestle not against flesh and blood .......................
It is the focus on movement and the mantras. Even if you do not say the mantras;they already abound because of what yoga really is in the spirit! It manifests itself in the NATURAL.
It is utter nonsense to say:yoga means this to me". In the same vein; I could say: my sisterinlaws Indian dream catcher is not harmful hanging in her house because she is not aware that it is to REALLY trap and keep evil spirits around the owner.
we wrestle not against flesh and blood .......................
I dont believe that doing stretches is demon worship Even Paul wrote that meat prepared for false idols is just meat.
I cant think of one commandment that says not to workout your body in this or that way, just not to worship idols. If your heart is on Christ, does it really matter that the exercise your doing is often done by people who do worship false idols?
Even Paul wrote that meat prepared for false idols is just meat.I cant think of one commandment that says not to workout your body in this or that way, just not to worship idols. If your heart is on Christ, does it really matter that the exercise your doing is often done by people who do worship false idols?
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I think the problem is, that some of us are talking about the physical exercise of yoga--stretching and breathing exercises ie: a low impact workout, and others are talking about the actual Yoga practice developed in India, which origianted in both hinduism and buddhism--those yoga practices do involve meditation and attaining spirituality, however what is commonly called "yoga" at least in the USA is practiced primarily for health benefits and exercise.
With anything, however, if you get wrapped up in it too much, by starting to practice it the way that the Indian culture practices yoga it can very much become a "spiritual exprerince", therefore adding to the religious aspect of it--where people are saying it is a religion.
I for one, and I believe you are with me on this one PW, strictly only use yoga as a physical exercise--which is why you think of it as not a "religion", however I can understand why some of the folks on here view it as a religion, because of it's origins, rightly so.
Exercise is exercise, if we are doing yoga as strictly an exercise there is no meditation or "spiritual enlightenment" at all, I believe it is a safe and healthy way to get in shape--in this instance we are just borrowing the name "yoga" to describe what stretching exercise we are doing. If you are using it as a spiritual meditation and using the chants and the mantras that have hindu backgrounds, then that is an entirely different thing, and in my belief, should be avoided.
Hope this helps a little
With anything, however, if you get wrapped up in it too much, by starting to practice it the way that the Indian culture practices yoga it can very much become a "spiritual exprerince", therefore adding to the religious aspect of it--where people are saying it is a religion.
I for one, and I believe you are with me on this one PW, strictly only use yoga as a physical exercise--which is why you think of it as not a "religion", however I can understand why some of the folks on here view it as a religion, because of it's origins, rightly so.
Exercise is exercise, if we are doing yoga as strictly an exercise there is no meditation or "spiritual enlightenment" at all, I believe it is a safe and healthy way to get in shape--in this instance we are just borrowing the name "yoga" to describe what stretching exercise we are doing. If you are using it as a spiritual meditation and using the chants and the mantras that have hindu backgrounds, then that is an entirely different thing, and in my belief, should be avoided.
Hope this helps a little
P
I think the problem is, that some of us are talking about the physical exercise of yoga--stretching and breathing exercises ie: a low impact workout, and others are talking about the actual Yoga practice developed in India, which origianted in both hinduism and buddhism--those yoga practices do involve meditation and attaining spirituality, however what is commonly called "yoga" at least in the USA is practiced primarily for health benefits and exercise.
With anything, however, if you get wrapped up in it too much, by starting to practice it the way that the Indian culture practices yoga it can very much become a "spiritual exprerince", therefore adding to the religious aspect of it--where people are saying it is a religion.
I for one, and I believe you are with me on this one PW, strictly only use yoga as a physical exercise--which is why you think of it as not a "religion", however I can understand why some of the folks on here view it as a religion, because of it's origins, rightly so.
Exercise is exercise, if we are doing yoga as strictly an exercise there is no meditation or "spiritual enlightenment" at all, I believe it is a safe and healthy way to get in shape--in this instance we are just borrowing the name "yoga" to describe what stretching exercise we are doing. If you are using it as a spiritual meditation and using the chants and the mantras that have hindu backgrounds, then that is an entirely different thing, and in my belief, should be avoided.
Hope this helps a little
With anything, however, if you get wrapped up in it too much, by starting to practice it the way that the Indian culture practices yoga it can very much become a "spiritual exprerince", therefore adding to the religious aspect of it--where people are saying it is a religion.
I for one, and I believe you are with me on this one PW, strictly only use yoga as a physical exercise--which is why you think of it as not a "religion", however I can understand why some of the folks on here view it as a religion, because of it's origins, rightly so.
Exercise is exercise, if we are doing yoga as strictly an exercise there is no meditation or "spiritual enlightenment" at all, I believe it is a safe and healthy way to get in shape--in this instance we are just borrowing the name "yoga" to describe what stretching exercise we are doing. If you are using it as a spiritual meditation and using the chants and the mantras that have hindu backgrounds, then that is an entirely different thing, and in my belief, should be avoided.
Hope this helps a little