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PoetMary... that was good information... I didn't especially care for the "somewhat condescending" passages in the first post... but over-looking those... the information was very much appreciated... thank you. NOW... if I EVER find a CHRISTIAN centered class... I would try again. I am of the persuasion of NOT accepting it otherwise.
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When I was competing in weight training, I utilized everything: free weights, fitness machines, stair climber, bicycling, Pilates, and yoga. I also used breathing & relaxation techniques. I not only meditated on the word of God throughout the entire competition, but I spoke scriptures aloud (instead of a mantra). I even hung posters on the wall with Bible verses. I know I could not have completed the course had I not focused all my mind on Christ Jesus. 
Well, its not really even the same as with the meat. Its like the point I made before, if we called stretching exercises skipitty-doo instead of yoga, no one would have an issue.
The bible does not say that stretching is evil, I cant see how the fact that hindus have taken up stretching now makes it demon worship forever, especially if you arent doing anything more than stretching. If the name bothers you, call it something else
idolatry is the act of worshiping idols. Im absolutely sure this means you truly have to make a choice to worship an idol
Online Etymology Dictionary
yoga (n.)1820, from Hindi yoga, from Sanskrit yoga-s, literally "union, yoking" (with the Supreme Spirit), from PIE root *yeug- "to join" (see jugular). Related: Yogic.
You can stretch, and you can exercise, just don't do yoga. Yoga is not stretching or exercise. The stretches and exercises and poses are not yoga itself, they are the means to the ends of achieving yoga. The stretches and such aren't even called yoga, they are called "Asana". That is how it is tied into idolatry, because yoga practitioners do those things either knowingly or unknowingly as an offering to idols. Intention does not mean anything. Even Eve in the garden intended well by eating the fruit that caused death to enter the world.
Indeed there's nothing in the Bible against exercise or stretching, but there is much in the Bible against the idols and customs of the heathens.
Deuteronomy 12:30-31
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
Be not troubled though if you or someone you know has done or is doing yoga, for if one has by ignorance or by willfulness done this thing, taking on the yoke of the hindu, that bond can be broken. For Jesus came for to break the bonds and set us free.
Galatians 5:1
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
yoga (n.)1820, from Hindi yoga, from Sanskrit yoga-s, literally "union, yoking" (with the Supreme Spirit), from PIE root *yeug- "to join" (see jugular). Related: Yogic.
You can stretch, and you can exercise, just don't do yoga. Yoga is not stretching or exercise. The stretches and exercises and poses are not yoga itself, they are the means to the ends of achieving yoga. The stretches and such aren't even called yoga, they are called "Asana". That is how it is tied into idolatry, because yoga practitioners do those things either knowingly or unknowingly as an offering to idols. Intention does not mean anything. Even Eve in the garden intended well by eating the fruit that caused death to enter the world.
Indeed there's nothing in the Bible against exercise or stretching, but there is much in the Bible against the idols and customs of the heathens.
Deuteronomy 12:30-31
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
Be not troubled though if you or someone you know has done or is doing yoga, for if one has by ignorance or by willfulness done this thing, taking on the yoke of the hindu, that bond can be broken. For Jesus came for to break the bonds and set us free.
Galatians 5:1
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
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Hebrews 4:12 (ESV)
12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Good job on your last post, btw -- I agree.
12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Good job on your last post, btw -- I agree.
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We cannot separate the physical from the spiritual because Jesus Christ already did! We are crucified with Christ and no longer live according to the flesh. We walk by faith, not by sight.
If you want to say this type of exercise is evil because it's "offered to idols", then by all means believe that.
If you want to say this type of exercise is evil because it's "offered to idols", then by all means believe that.
Just because it doesnt align with your views doesnt mean it is propaganda.
Your version of accurate and my version of accurate are very far apart. But then,you seem to be quite liberal in many areas that I am not
It doesnt surprise me that we dissagree................. Im done here. People know how I feel about it. No sense in going back and forth is there?
Your version of accurate and my version of accurate are very far apart. But then,you seem to be quite liberal in many areas that I am not
It doesnt surprise me that we dissagree................. Im done here. People know how I feel about it. No sense in going back and forth is there?
Look, who ever believes that yoga can cure homosexuality is deluded...Homosexuality and the embracement thereof is the final straw that one has been given over to by God, is indicative of impending judgment and sets forth a mind void of judgment and or discernment...Romans 1.....there is only one cure and He sits on his throne at the right hand of His Heavenly Father!
Just because it doesnt align with your views doesnt mean it is propaganda.
Your version of accurate and my version of accurate are very far apart. But then,you seem to be quite liberal in many areas that I am not
It doesnt surprise me that we dissagree................. Im done here. People know how I feel about it. No sense in going back and forth is there?
Your version of accurate and my version of accurate are very far apart. But then,you seem to be quite liberal in many areas that I am not
It doesnt surprise me that we dissagree................. Im done here. People know how I feel about it. No sense in going back and forth is there?
2. Having said #1. There are lots of reasons why certain Christians might avoid yoga. If someone finds that yoga is problematic, then they need to not practice yoga. If someone thinks that yoga is problematic for everyone, they can share their understanding, but that understanding should be based on accurate information.
3. The idea that someone who approves of yoga (or who even takes a middle-of-the-road approach) is somehow engaging in denial about it is based on the underlying philosophy that the speaker is 100% right and any dissenting views are going to be wrong.
4. Making ad hominem statements such as "you are more liberal than I am" has nothing to do with this topic. You don't know my political views, nor are you aware of my stance on a wide variety of social issues. Therefore, claiming that I am "liberal" (which is basically a slam on this site) is essentially name-calling. You made a factual mistake about yoga (emptying the mind), and I corrected your mistake. That makes me neither liberal nor conservative.