Born Again Virgin?

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PrettyBelle

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amiracle said:
What do you think of "born-again virgins"? If someone has pre-marital sex with more partners than they can remember, can they still just stop having sex and claim to be a born again virgin? They always say "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" or "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" so should people who are not pure anymore even try to be born again virgins? What is the point in trying to make yourself pure for your future husband/wife if you are far from pure and never will be pure again?
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So I'm reading the description for the singles forum. This is what it says " Christian and single? Seek (or give) advice and encouragement here"

I find this post neither encouraging or giving advice. I also(like God) do not judge anyone for their past.
Placing "labels" on people is hurtful and not what Jesus wants us to do to each other.

With that being said... I lead a very sordid past the last time before I came back to God. I am far from pure, but my sins are forgiven and my mind is being renewed by God's word.
I live my life as biblically as possible, and especially where sexual sin is concerned. I am not having sex until I'm married again because God requires holiness from his people. I do not consider myself a "virgin", but I am set apart until my wedding night when sex is considered a green light by God. I do that because I love Him and keep His commandments. My husband will have full knowledge about my "past", but as far as God is concerned I don't have one. That's the beautiful thing about what Jesus did for us. So if people want to call themselves virgins again, who are you to say they can't?
 
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Jullianna

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GRA said:
The term seems to suggest a "positive attitude and outlook" by someone who "has not had sex since they were born-again" and wants to feel like they are "starting fresh with a clean slate"...

While that may be good -- I believe it is just self-deception.

Of course, if they are recently born-again - they are [spiritually] "starting fresh with a clean slate" -- nevertheless, they cannot change the past -- and should 'speak to it' honestly without trying to "cover it over" with something that "looks and feels nicer"...

"I believe it is just self-deception."

I think it would be better to simply make reference to '2 Corinthians 5:17' and say "Look what God has done in my life." and "I am trying to live for the Lord now." -- and just leave it at that...

NOTE: I submitted this before reading any posts beyond #15. ("It took me a while to write it.")

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Seems to me that anyone using that term wouldn't be covering anything up, but rather being far more honest about their personal business than most folks.
 
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Ugly

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I'm with Julianna, if someone wants to call themselves by this term, why should we care?
 
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GRA

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:eek:

"Oh - I'm sorry... What was I thinking?"

The term really means "a [spiritually] born-again person who has not yet experienced [physical] sex"...

DUH?

And - no - I don't really care that much if other people use the term.

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jeffintx

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I know there are plenty of catch phrases that are not in the bible. Like, "God only helps those who help themselves", or "The Lord works in mysterious ways". When people say those things I have to take into consideration where they are at. I for one know from experience that God actually loves to help the helpless, to make a way where there seems to be no way like when he parted the red sea. I firmly believe that he works in obvious way, or at least he does in my life.
I have to admit that is the first time I ever heard "Born again Virgin". The one thing it make me think of is this verse in 2Co 11:2 "For I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy: for I espoused you to one husband, that I might present you as a pure virgin to Christ." One thing to consider is that what if we were all adulterers and adulteresses to God because of our relationship with the world and sin like is calls us in Jame 4:4 and maybe some of us still are in that state, only you know. What if God is able to wash us and cleanse us from the ultimate type of spiritual adultery and make it to where we are pure virgins for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
I believe that anything else is like arguing a moot point because we can miss the whole reality that he has done for us no matter what we have done in these bodies.
 
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Jullianna

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GRA said:
:eek:

"Oh - I'm sorry... What was I thinking?"

The term really means "a [spiritually] born-again person who has not yet experienced [physical] sex"...

DUH?

And - no - I don't really care that much if other people use the term.

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Sarcasm duly noted. Seems unwarranted.
 
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Beloved57

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I really think what Jesus hath cleansed, how dare we call it unclean (Acts 10:15). For every saint is a sinner who is cleansed by the blood of Jesus . But by Jesus we who were the worst of sinners (In my case at least), are washed and sanctified (I Corinthians 6:9-11). So yea, I like the term Born-Again Virgin if one is making the commitment to Christ Jesus.

For as Julianna stated we have become a New Creation. For in the last verse of II Corinthians 5, we see that Christ became sin for us, so we might be made righteous in Him.
 
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GreenNnice

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amiracle said:
What do you think of "born-again virgins"? If someone has pre-marital sex with more partners than they can remember, can they still just stop having sex and claim to be a born again virgin? They always say "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" or "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" so should people who are not pure anymore even try to be born again virgins? What is the point in trying to make yourself pure for your future husband/wife if you are far from pure and never will be pure again?
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That'^s between
you and the Lord. And, He will lead you aré ti go in faith, praying, seeking Him , through various fellowship, like singles group, bible study, friends, c.c. tío, you aré to be perfectly, in your weakness, follow after Him. the Lord leads , and, directs, even 're-directs. :) Prov. 16:9


More than anything else, as His sheep , and, you are His IF you accepted Him your Saviour, believing in Jesus' crosswork through His Father, God, and all that with that work brings, but, yes, more than anything else, God wants a PERSONAL relationship with you, imamiracle :)
The Lord leads .
 
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PrettyBelle

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For some reason I can no longer see any more posts in this thread.
 
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Ugly

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Because people stopped posting maybe?
 
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surrender2God

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All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. No matter what name the sin has, none of us are perfect and none of us should be throwing any stones at anyone. I commend you for taking a stand and deciding to abstain from sexual relations and I am proud of you for rededicating yourself to God. Stay strong and may God bless you.
God loves you. Be encouraged.
 
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Liz01

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I disagree with the term of "born again virgin" because its like covering the sin as someone said here.

And when someone cover their past sin, they cover (or deny) the glory of God in their lives too.
 
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CC_Bride

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Yes and no..

I was sexually active prior to meeting my husband, not a huge amount but once is enough to be sexually immoral really. I think those who aren't virgins and have repented of their behaviour shouldn't call themselves "born again virgins" because they should understand that labels aren't important and that in Christ, when we hand our sin over to him and discontinue we are made new and are cleansed.

I of all people did not deny or try and put a title over my lack of virginity. I just told my husband and he accepted it and forgave me and I did the same for him.
 
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Jullianna

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CC Bride, great answer. :)

I still don't get why it matters what other people want to call their own personal business. Who needs to know this other than the person you marry? God already knows.

I keep reading that they are "trying to cover up their sin". From whom? God? As long as they are honest with whomever they plan to marry, what business is it of anyone else? That's the part I don't get.

Am I missing something? When you meet someone, do you shake hands and say, "Hi, I'm blahblahblah. Oh..btw..I'm an ex -liar/thief/adulterer/cheater/glutton/drug dealer/hooker?" Should people start wearing scarlet As on their shirts or something. I don't get this thread at all. Just seems kinda gossipy to me. Ugh.
 
Ritter

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I don't get it. I personally look forward to the day when I'll have Biblical clearance to be a Born-Again, Non-Virgin.
 
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Jullianna

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That’s what I don’t get either, Ritter. How can we say that someone is trying to cover their sin when it’s already been covered by the blood of Christ? Who are we to want them to uncover it? Why do they owe us any reasons, disclosures or explanations? I just don’t get it..
 
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Liz01

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Virginity is the state of a person who has never engaged in sexual intercourse. Its and action and we can not undo what we already did.
So first of all, we need to use the correct words for what happened or someone did or not.

In the bible when it talks about "born again" it talks about the spirit and not about the body. We cannot undo what we did but God free us from the sin and forgive us.

And i think that God pleases that we give Him the glory. If someone says that is virgin again then they are hiding their past sin when there is a big opportunity to tell others the beautiful things of restoration and healing that God can do in the life of someone besides that if they deny what God made in their lives they then are not giving their testimony which is something very important that we need to do as christians.

Besides that, as I remember, Peter told many times how he was in the past, how he used to persecute and other bad things he did because ignorance as his testimony of the great things that God made in his life and he told that in many places too.
So i dont understand why someone would like to say that never sinned. i think that its not easy to do but we should ask God for courage to face what we need to face (without covering our past sins) to acomplish His purpose in our lives.
 
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Jullianna

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I guess I'm just really wierd about butting into other people's personal business like this because of the nasty assumptions and remarks I've overheard about myself and my son from people who don't know I'm a widow and take it upon themselves to pass judgment. It just kinda creeps me out to read all of this...
 
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1still_waters

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If I'm selling an OLD historical house, that has all its original windows but one, and that one got broken and replaced, because I broke it - I'd lie if I listed the house as having all the original windows.

Listen, we all have broken windows, that have been replaced by God's grace. But if you're pursuing a relationship with someone, be honest in how you list yourself.

This goes for anything.

Relationships require honesty.

You may have a few broken windows in your past, but Jesus has replaced them with his love.
 
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