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being a ncie guy and playing the best friend role hoping to get your foot in the door isnt going to work either though. the problem with most guys who complain about 'bad guys' is that they themselves end up being pushovers. THey are there for the girl when stuff goes bad and are there to listen and let the girl cry on their shoulder...your basically another girlfriend just with a Y chromosome. Stand up dont let yourself get into that type of position. If a girl doesnt want to date you stop hanging around and wasting your time.