Islam is a Good and Peaceful Religion. Here's proof.

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ChandlerFan

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I'm not going to listen to their theological views because they're literally dead wrong regarding Jesus. Now if they want to talk about America being an imperial nation imposing its will on others, yes, I'll listen to them because I understand there is some truth in that. However, America is still great, and its greatness can be embraced for others to enjoy.
When I say "listen" I simply mean hear the other person and understand where they are coming from. Not adhere to it in any way. And I have no idea what American imperialism has to do with this conversation...
 
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Ultimatum77

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I would be careful about where you get your information. I have personally walked the streets of Detroit rather recently and have not seen any evidence of Islam even externally existent in the city. If Sharia law were held above local law, things would be significantly different than they are.

Props to you for wanting to know other viewpoints and have conversations. That's the way to be! And yes, we must be careful to avoid but also have an answer to the pluralistic assertions (like that the Muslim and Christian God are the same) that we see being made more and more nowadays.
Ah yes I admit I misspoke, it was another city in Michigan, called Dearborn

City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law | National Report

however, I have heard from people who live in detroit that the muslim pop. is growing there rapidly
 

Utah

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When I say "listen" I simply mean hear the other person and understand where they are coming from. Not adhere to it in any way. And I have no idea what American imperialism has to do with this conversation...
You said worldview so I addressed American Imperialism.

And once again I reiterate, I will not waste a single second of my life on this side of Heaven listening to muslims regarding their views on God. They're wrong. Quit being a muslim apologist.
 
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kaylagrl

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You said worldview so I addressed American Imperialism.

And once again I reiterate, I will not waste a single second of my life on this side of Heaven listening to muslims regarding their views on God. They're wrong. Quit being a muslim apologist.

You always go to the meat of the matter brother,thank you for your wisdom.
 
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kaylagrl

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Your position is not biblical even in the slightest.
How did the disciples deal with false religion? They went to prison for preaching the gospel. There was no PC in the NT.
 

ChandlerFan

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You said worldview so I addressed American Imperialism.

And once again I reiterate, I will not waste a single second of my life on this side of Heaven listening to muslims regarding their views on God. They're wrong. Quit being a muslim apologist.
I am no Muslim apologist, simply an apologist for relational evangelism, sir. I don't expect to see you win any Muslims to Christ anytime soon with that methodology.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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My concern is that we show love to those of the Islamic faith (and folks of all faiths).

I do not think this is achieved by mocking their faith.
 

Utah

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You always go to the meat of the matter brother,thank you for your wisdom.
Thank you, dear Sister. I take no prisoners, right, wrong or indifferent.
 

Utah

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I don't expect to see you win any Muslims to Christ anytime soon with that methodology.
Winning muslims to Christ is not my calling, yet I pray earnestly for their salvation, and I have no doubt God has opened the hearts of many muslims because of the prayers of His children in Christ.
 
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Tintin

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My concern is that we show love to those of the Islamic faith (and folks of all faiths).

I do not think this is achieved by mocking their faith.
When Islam (not the so-called extremists) call their faith good and one of peace and they've killed upwards of 100 million people and most of the world doesn't know about it, I don't think that's considered mocking their faith. It's called bringing the truth to light to show Islam for what it is. As for Muslims, I don't hate them and I don't think they're all bad news. I hate their religion. And I'm angry with the idiots who think it's a-okay to pretend nothing's wrong in the face of Islam and its atrocities. Need I remind you that 150 million Christians are persecuted regularly around the world, largely by Muslims. I'm talking imprisonment, torture, being raped, killed etc. all for being Christians. It's right to get angry at such things.
 

Lynx

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Some random thoughts about this thread topic:

Thought 1 - What has light to do with dark? I have no interest in learning about the things muslims believe. I'm not in the business of arguing against muslim beliefs. My business is advertising God, not advertising against allah.

Thought 2 - I wonder what people of other religions think about the catholic and protestant gangs over in Ireland. Some really brutal things they have done to each other, and those are all christians doing these things to each other. Sure hope nobody takes me to task for their actions just because I'm a christian too.

Thought 3 - I have long ago decided to take each person as an individual person. I have known atheists who would argue and debate at the drop of a hat, but I also work with an atheist who has no interest in arguing with me. Making assumptions about someone because he is muslim is not productive.

Thought 4 - Speaking of things not productive, railing against muslims is at best a waste of time and energy. At worst it is destructive. I can't see where any good can come of it, but I do see a lot of potential for harm.
 

JosephsDreams

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I have a question. If Islam is a good and peaceful religion, I like to see it's opposite. OP, please tell me what is a bad and violent religion.
This should be interesting, assuming I get a serious reply...
 

Lynx

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I have a question. Did you actually READ the first post or did you just read the thread title?

Yeah, I thought so. Go back and read the first post.
 
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Tintin

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I have a question. If Islam is a good and peaceful religion, I like to see it's opposite. OP, please tell me what is a bad and violent religion.
This should be interesting, assuming I get a serious reply...
Islam is a great example of an evil and violent religion.
 
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Tintin

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Some random thoughts about this thread topic:

Thought 1 - What has light to do with dark? I have no interest in learning about the things muslims believe. I'm not in the business of arguing against muslim beliefs. My business is advertising God, not advertising against allah.

Thought 2 - I wonder what people of other religions think about the catholic and protestant gangs over in Ireland. Some really brutal things they have done to each other, and those are all christians doing these things to each other. Sure hope nobody takes me to task for their actions just because I'm a christian too.

Thought 3 - I have long ago decided to take each person as an individual person. I have known atheists who would argue and debate at the drop of a hat, but I also work with an atheist who has no interest in arguing with me. Making assumptions about someone because he is muslim is not productive.

Thought 4 - Speaking of things not productive, railing against muslims is at best a waste of time and energy. At worst it is destructive. I can't see where any good can come of it, but I do see a lot of potential for harm.
Thought 1 - this video isn't so much about what Muslims believe, so much as about how many people have been killed in the name of Allah and that this violence etc. is consistent with their faith.

Thought 2 - this is about politics, not religion. The faith thing is just a smoke-screen, a justification for the violence. Which, admittedly is strange, since such things aren't consistent with the Christian faith.

Thought 3 - fair enough. I know plenty of people who are non-Christians, of all stripes. Most of them are pleasant people, doesn't make them right. Again, I don't hate Muslims, I hate Islam.

Thought 4 - I don't think it is. When the world rolls over to expose its belly to evil and calls good evil and evil good, I think there are issues here.
 

zeroturbulence

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I just want to know which one is the religion of cake and ice cream...
 

Angela53510

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I spent quite a while fact finding the OP today, and it seems like much is true!

I also learned how little I know about history outside of the British Empire. Quite a deficit I am going to remedy.

One interesting claim was that the Muslims actually stole numbers, esp. 0 from the Hindus when they invaded India, and said they invented it. I remember being in a Muslim website and the Muslims bragging that they had invented 0 and modern numbers. I would love to find out the truth about this!
 

ChandlerFan

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Some random thoughts about this thread topic:

Thought 1 - What has light to do with dark? I have no interest in learning about the things muslims believe. I'm not in the business of arguing against muslim beliefs. My business is advertising God, not advertising against allah.
It is nearly impossible to effectively evangelize Muslims if you do not know what they believe.