Islam is a Good and Peaceful Religion. Here's proof.

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Grandpa

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It is nearly impossible to effectively evangelize Muslims if you do not know what they believe.
Why would you evangelize them any different than anyone else?
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Re-read my post. I said islam earns no respect from me, not muslims. Astronomical difference.

There are far too many people who misinterpret "I hate Islam" with "I hate Muslims".

Its about the religion itself, and what makes up their doctrine. Its not about the people that have been mislead into it. People need to learn how to tell the two things apart. Hating Nazism is not equal to hating Germans, I dont think anyone would make that jump.
 
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kaylagrl

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It is nearly impossible to effectively evangelize Muslims if you do not know what they believe.

I really don't know if this is true. I think only a supernatural move will save people from Islam because it is such a demonic religion.I hear of many Muslims having dreams of Jesus coming to them. I don't think you can merely talk them out of it or explain it away,the bondage is too deep.
 

Demi777

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Your position is not biblical even in the slightest.
Well and your position shows me why there will be so many so called ''christians'' going to hell. Dont know the own book and even less the enemy. In the whole Bible everyone knew the believe of the enemy..just you dont..so good luck going to ISIS and telling them about Jesus being the Son of God. Ill be watching livestream.
 
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MissCris

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Some religions destroy with suicide bombers....others, they just nitpick each other to death.
 

blue_ladybug

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Are you on drugs or somethin'?!! :confused: lol
 
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Well and your position shows me why there will be so many so called ''christians'' going to hell. Dont know the own book and even less the enemy. In the whole Bible everyone knew the believe of the enemy..just you dont..so good luck going to ISIS and telling them about Jesus being the Son of God. Ill be watching livestream.
Actually, Chandlerfan is a longstanding member here who has proven himself over and over to be godly, compassionate, deep thinking and very Biblically solid in his beliefs. We don't need to all agree with one another here, but let's debate the issue itself while respecting the person.
 

ChandlerFan

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Why would you evangelize them any different than anyone else?
Here is the thing: In one sense you do, and in another sense you don't. You don't evangelize them any differently in the sense that you are preaching the same message, that the only way to salvation is to put their hope and trust in Jesus Christ who died on a cross to pay the penalty for their sin, that you would to anyone. The difference is that you have different hurdles to cross when you are dealing with Muslims than you do with others. If you know anything about Islam, you know that they believe Jesus Christ actually existed but was simply a good prophet. You would also know that they believe that at least most of the Old Testament is true, and that the New Testament was changed by men over time and is unreliable. You would also know that they are highly offended at the concept of God dying, and of the concept that God could have relations with a person (of course we know this isn't what happened and that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit, but they don't tend to see it this way). They also take issue with the concept of the Trinity and some would see Christianity as a polytheistic religion.
Then for those who live in the Middle East, they come from a culture where honoring their family is of extremely high importance. They would much rather cheat on a test, get a good grade, and honor their family than to fail the test and dishonor them. Converting to Christianity is an extremely high form of dishonor in their culture, and some parents will even legally disown their children in this case.

All of these things have to be taken in consideration when you're talking to a Muslim. They are going to be part of the conversation. If as Christians we don't care about what they think or believe, or doesn't care about what shapes them and how they see the world, how are we supposed to expect them to care about what we believe? How are we supposed to have answers for their questions? This is what I mean when I say that while we are preaching the same message, we have different hurdles to cross in conversation.

I really don't know if this is true. I think only a supernatural move will save people from Islam because it is such a demonic religion.I hear of many Muslims having dreams of Jesus coming to them. I don't think you can merely talk them out of it or explain it away,the bondage is too deep.
So actually, I completely agree with you. I believe that God is the one who transforms and shapes hearts, and that we are simply the ones planting the seeds. Our words aren't going to change someone's heart, only God can do that. And yes, there are lots of stories of Muslims having dreams about Jesus, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be hesitant or still have questions rooted in the worldview and culture they have grown up in.
And you are most certainly right about the bondage being deep. They say that a Muslim in the Middle East has to hear the Gospel at least 40 times before they will come to Christ. Their beliefs and their culture are so deeply ingrained in them that it really is hard, persistent labor that often leads to Muslims coming to Christ. But having many friends who have done this type of work overseas, I know that it is worth it. The celebration that happens when a Muslim comes to Christ is unbelievably amazing! But this work can only be done well if they know the people they are ministering to and what makes them tick culturally, intellectually, and spiritually.
 
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roaringkitten

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When it comes to dealing with people of other worldviews, I try to stick to one rule of thumb: I should be able to articulate the other person's point of view in such a way that when I repeat it back to them, they are in agreement. Only then do I demonstrate that I have given them the respect and dignity of hearing their argument.

My problem with this video is that I have personally interacted with Muslims who have never once even considered killing another person, and they would very passionately argue that Islam is a peaceful religion in whose name many have committed unthinkable atrocities. The same can be said about Christianity, and people even today wrongly use Scripture to say and do terrible things. To label Islam as a whole as a murderous religion and to label all Muslims this way is way overgeneralizing and shuts all possible doors for conversation and even evangelization of Muslims to happen. Evangelizing Muslims is hard enough. Let's not make it harder.

I also just have to say that it's hard for me to rely on or listen to such an obnoxious and sarcastic person (and he doesn't even quote the Koran anywhere in this video).

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Eph 6:12

The one enemy in common behind all false religions is the devil. This is a spiritual battle, not one that can be won by trying to find common ground with the enemy(ie:Islamic beliefs). The only way to fight against this one enemy is to use the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God(Eph 6:17) along with the other armour of our warfare!

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Heb 4:12

The Word gets down to the real root of the problem that is the same denominator of all false religions-spiritual bondage to the devil, our common enemy! You have to fight spiritual with spiritual!

"For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds" 2 Cor 10:4

You evangelize a Muslim like you would evangelize any other lost person, with the Word of God! For it's not your job to convince them, that's the role of the Holy Ghost:


"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment" John 16:7-8
 

ChandlerFan

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Here is a perfect example of effective ministry to a Muslim (and a radical one at that) utilizing some very simple knowledge about what he believes:

[video=youtube;GmRCsXRassg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRCsXRassg[/video]