Letters To Seoulsearch, Part 2: What Kind of Christian Are You?

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Lynx

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Perhaps I worded the entire question incorrectly... It's more like, what kinds of characteristics seem to come more naturally to you than others in the your Christian walk?
Oh, well in that case... I'm the one in my church who stays focussed on the goal. Whatever it is, let's do it. If it doesn't work, find something that will. If you can't find something that will work, move on to the next thing. I have a knack for working around or ignoring obstacles and general background noise to get things done. I'm not in charge of things, I'm the one that the people in charge ask to do things.

The reason I know this is because I've received comments about it. I never thought about it until they started commenting about it.
 
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I'm a stickler for biblical correctness. Whenever asked about something, my answer is usually "the Bible says".

I don't think there's a spiritual "gift" for that, but it's in my psyche to be a hard core Berean. The Book either says it or it doesn't. My personal opinion is if every christian became a Berean, false teachers & prophets wouldn't have an ice cube's chance of deceiving anyone.
 

violakat

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Hi Viola!

Thank you so much for your post. I want to clarify that I am NOT saying at all that being a "Corrector" is somehow bad--God calls people for this very purpose!!! We need Correctors! Everyone, at some point, has to give some kind of correction. But this, to me, yours is an example of how correction was meant to be--in love and with encouragement, NOT a contest of "who has the bigger/better/more valid faith" or "if you disagree with me, I'm going to flood you with Scripture and beat you into the ground, because I can back everything I'm saying with the WORD and you are obviously an ungodly heathen."

THANK YOU for being a GODLY Corrector. Goodness knows we need more of those. You gave an example of what good correction SHOULD be, and I've had plenty of correction in my life--fortunately, much of it was by loving correctors such as you.

The fact is, the very reason I'm writing these threads is because of men who have tried to Scripturally beat me into a pit with their "correction" via private messages. No matter what I answer, they tell me I'm wrong, Spiritually blind, unsubmissive, etc. and quote another passage as to how worldly I am and not needing listening to what they see as their infallible point of view (in other words, "I'm right, you're wrong, and I have the Bible passages here to prove it.")

Some will say I should have kept this all in PM but I find that many abuse such a privilege. I almost always decline to engage in such arguments but one person PMed me back with a quote I had written in a thread saying I will always address questions or accusations people bring against me, implying that I was backing down and running from being questioned.

First of all, I wrote that post in the context of being questioned publicly, not in private messages, because, as I said, there is so much potential for abuse. If I don't address something some asks or brings against me in the forums, it's because I either missed it or have already addressed the issue and do not wish to repeat myself.

So because the implication is that I said I would answer but tried to say, "Let's let it be and go on our separate ways" (even though it's PM's and not in public), here I am, answering, and unfortunately, getting pulled into circular arguments that I despise. I wrote this person back that I'm rather irritated that I feel I'm being bullied into answering pointless questions instead of spending time with my family, but I'm a person of my word, and since he pointed out that I said I would answer (even though it was out of context), here I am.

PM's are not always such a great a idea because if a person who has something against you or your thoughts knows they are talking to you "in private", they will think they have a right to tear you to the ground, especially when they don't know you, which is why I brought this to the public table (and told the person I planned to before I actually did.)

I also firmly believe that NO ONE HERE has to justify or explain why or how they came to conclusion of what their God-given gift is. I would simply suggest that if you have an issue with someone else's gift, please take it to God in prayer instead of verbally tearing the person down. Thanks!
You never gave me the impression that you thought all corrector's were bad. Others have made it seem that way, but to me, in your OP, you came across as one who was getting exasperated with a few of those in your life. And even there, I think you even made comments that even suggests that we need corrector's in our lives, as long as it's done in a Godly manner.
 

violakat

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The test I took said "Prophecy" but I understand the distinction you are making. I think the whole matter of prophecy is very much misused in today's church, and should only be approached with the most extreme caution. And we do need leaders who are prophetic, in the best sense of the word. I am thinking about Martin Luther King, for example.
Thank you. I would comment more but my brain has decided to die today, after only 5 hours of sleep, and cannot make coherent thoughts at this moment.
 

violakat

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The test I took said "Prophecy" but I understand the distinction you are making. I think the whole matter of prophecy is very much misused in today's church, and should only be approached with the most extreme caution. And we do need leaders who are prophetic, in the best sense of the word. I am thinking about Martin Luther King, for example.
So I took another Spiritual Gifts Test, and by the questions asked, I could quickly tell that the prophet would not be one of the gifts, but prophecy was. And in this case, that was not one of my highest areas. In this case, and in this order, it was discernment, evangelism, and pastor. The latter interests me, because while I have no desire or calling to be a pastor of a church, I do have a heart for Women and Youth. So I wonder if that's where something like that would come in to play.
 

ChandlerFan

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I'm not sure if I could pinpoint exactly what I am, but I think in general I have felt called to supporting and helping along people in their faith. I don't know that I'm so much a good person to relate to and communicate with people who aren't Christians, but I can certainly be a help to them once they get to that point.
 
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kenthomas27

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I'm a stickler for biblical correctness. Whenever asked about something, my answer is usually "the Bible says".

I don't think there's a spiritual "gift" for that, but it's in my psyche to be a hard core Berean. The Book either says it or it doesn't. My personal opinion is if every christian became a Berean, false teachers & prophets wouldn't have an ice cube's chance of deceiving anyone.
If you're speaking of a gift of "sight" here, then my understanding of "gifts" or of human "natures" really goes back to the Genesis of our creation when God made us in His image. I don't really see "vision" as a gift, like as a present given to someone over and above someone else, but rather an attained power inherited and ingrained in our very DNA simply because we were created in the image of God. So, the distinction here is the exercise of that ability enabling a Christian to better discern or to "see" a soul lost in sin, for instance, much like a trained athlete might better catch a ball in the end zone if he were so trained.

Vision is an ability numerously written of in the Bible. Basically the entire book of Revelations was a vision. "Old men shall dream dreams and young men shall see visions" in Joel. And in 1 Corinthians 9 - ...have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? How did he "see" him? Visions and "hearings" can really be thought of as comprehensions or maybe understandings. Some might call it enlightenment.
 
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INTJer

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So I took another Spiritual Gifts Test, and by the questions asked, I could quickly tell that the prophet would not be one of the gifts, but prophecy was. And in this case, that was not one of my highest areas. In this case, and in this order, it was discernment, evangelism, and pastor. The latter interests me, because while I have no desire or calling to be a pastor of a church, I do have a heart for Women and Youth. So I wonder if that's where something like that would come in to play.
There are related roles, or roles that cover part of what a pastor does, such as teaching, and you mentioned discernment and evangelism. I imagine those gifts could be used for any number of ministries, in various combinations, even if one is not a pastor. I'm guessing a music ministry would be a good fit - probably you are already involved in one. But there are all kinds of needs in a church in addition to music.

I presume you play the viola - I wanted to briefly ask you about that if it doesn't take this thread too far off course. My sister used to play the viola in an orchestra, so she often managed to get me free or deeply discounted tickets. I got to go to a lot of concerts as a teenager and young adult. I once got to hear Sir Georg Solti conduct - that was really exciting. I'm sorry - I had to talk music a bit.
 

violakat

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There are related roles, or roles that cover part of what a pastor does, such as teaching, and you mentioned discernment and evangelism. I imagine those gifts could be used for any number of ministries, in various combinations, even if one is not a pastor. I'm guessing a music ministry would be a good fit - probably you are already involved in one. But there are all kinds of needs in a church in addition to music.

I presume you play the viola - I wanted to briefly ask you about that if it doesn't take this thread too far off course. My sister used to play the viola in an orchestra, so she often managed to get me free or deeply discounted tickets. I got to go to a lot of concerts as a teenager and young adult. I once got to hear Sir Georg Solti conduct - that was really exciting. I'm sorry - I had to talk music a bit.
Even though I don't think music is one of the Spiritual Gifts in the Bible, I do believe that praise is a gift that all Christians do have as well as a responsibility, and a way to praise is through music. And I think your mentioning it is relevant to the discussion. And yes I do play the viola (or for right now, the violin.) in my church's orchestra. Also, awesome that your sister played.