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BlueAngel

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Kay, I'm kinda continuing this thread from another one, because I don't want to crowd the other one...

So,I met a Mormon dude, and he is perfect in every way, and I'm sure he is meant for me... But I won't leave my religion, and he won't leave his... What happens then? Would I have to leave the one God intended for me?

What happens if this dude is right, and God tells me to join this religion that so many are saying is a "cult"... what becomes of the friends that believe it's a cult, would they leave me alone because they don't understand?

So ultimately, if God tells me that it's right, I lose all the friends who think Mormonism is wrong.... I don't want that. I treasure all of my friends.

There are friends I have here, that think that Mormonism is from the devil. There are people all over the world who think that. There's so much stuff dissing Mormonism, it's hard for this guy to find any facts for me to go off of. He loves me, and I adore him, but this has been a problem for me, because I'm scared that if God tells me it's right for me to become a Mormon, my friends will think I've sold myself to the devil.
Honestly, I'm scared of Gods answer.
The guy keeps telling me that if my friends leave me just because of my religion, then they never were really my friends... But I don't want to lose any of them.
Whenever I get a friend, I make a place in my heart for them, and never want to let them out...

This is causing some distress, because I love God, and I want to ask him what's right, and I love this guy, and want to be with him, but I love my friends, and don't want to lose them...
 
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And I know, I'm young (probably going to get an awful lot of comments about that).
But I'm not ready to marry this guy, he's just asked me to consider this, while we're waiting, so we're not, so-called, "cramming" last minute.
 
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This is very simple. This is not 'the one' for you. Firstly, i do not believe God is going to direct a child of only 16 to her future husband. Secondly, God is not going to tell you to change your belief system, and abandon God to marry a man. (mormonism does not believe the God of the bible, nor the Jesus Christ of the bible). Lastly, there is no such thing as 'the one' or someone being 'meant' for you and only you. There is nothing in the bible to support that concept. It stems from ancient paganism.
So, to rehash... God isn't directing a 16 to a husband, God isn't directing you to stop following Him to follow another false religion to get married, and 'soul mates/the one/meant for me' doesn't exist. Makes it all pretty simple.
Seems to me you're having a lot of confusion over this. Where does confusion come from? God or satan? So if the idea that this guy is bringing so much confusion in your life, how likely is it that is at all from God?
 
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GOD_IS_LOVE

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BlueAngel said:
So many are saying is a "cult".
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What do YOU think?
Considering your age, I don't see why you stress so much about it, it's not like you have to decide to marry him now. Leave it to God and see how He will lead.
I'd suggest you both study the Bible together and see what the truth of the Bible is.

Kinda your situation, the other way round: Why I Left the Mormon Church - YouTube
 
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Mormonism in a Nutshell|What Mormonism teaches | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry <~~here is a link that provides the basics of mormon teachings. Align these teachings with those of the bible. Also, bear in mind, though they claim to use the bible, they have a second book, the Book of Mormon, which they place as higher than the bible.

Mormonism was founded by Joseph Smith. A man well known as a criminal, thief and liar. He claims to have been visited by two angels, which gave him golden plates that he was to translate. No one has ever seen, or even seen evidence of these golden plates other than Joseph Smith. Also, he has recounted the story of how he received these plates on various occasions and each time the story differed. Time of day, location, etc.. he never told the same story twice.

So with the link provided, and the history of the religions origins, what do you think? Does this sound like the God of the bible to you?
 
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Jullianna

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This is exactly what I was talking about in the other thread, precious Blueangel, people who deceive us about being christians...who may even believe they are, but are not. They can hurt us deeply.
 
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I pray that you are different than me. When I have gotten to the point that you are at, it is already too late. Waiting for God simply isn't an option for me once I get to that point. My own desires have already so tainted my opinion that I can't rely on myself. God gave us parents for a very good reason! Their opinions are invaluable, especially when finding a spouse. In the absence of parents, friends can fill in quite well. Be careful, though. It's far too easy to discount their opinions with thoughts like "oh, they just don't know everything going on" or "they don't know him like I do" or "they don't really understand" or "well we are special, we really love each other". Most times, these are lies.

Be careful BlueAngel.
 
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BlueAngel

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Ugly said:
This is very simple. This is not 'the one' for you. Firstly, i do not believe God is going to direct a child of only 16 to her future husband. Secondly, God is not going to tell you to change your belief system, and abandon God to marry a man. (mormonism does not believe the God of the bible, nor the Jesus Christ of the bible). Lastly, there is no such thing as 'the one' or someone being 'meant' for you and only you. There is nothing in the bible to support that concept. It stems from ancient paganism.
So, to rehash... God isn't directing a 16 to a husband, God isn't directing you to stop following Him to follow another false religion to get married, and 'soul mates/the one/meant for me' doesn't exist. Makes it all pretty simple.
Seems to me you're having a lot of confusion over this. Where does confusion come from? God or satan? So if the idea that this guy is bringing so much confusion in your life, how likely is it that is at all from God?
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No offense, but this is very wrong... People make covenants in the pre-mortality, to find each other and marry on earth. One of my youth leaders and her husband, knew they were 'meant for each other' when she was younger than me. They just waited until she was 18 to get married... There is a such thing as being intended for each other.
Another thing, confusion stems from the conflict between God spirit, and the natural man. Natural man is an enemy to God, and if the natural man is avoiding the truth, God's going to try prodding it.
 
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BlueAngel

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GOD_IS_LOVE said:
What do YOU think?
Considering your age, I don't see why you stress so much about it, it's not like you have to decide to marry him now. Leave it to God and see how He will lead.
I'd suggest you both study the Bible together and see what the truth of the Bible is.

Kinda your situation, the other way round: Why I Left the Mormon Church - YouTube
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I think that Mormons are misunderstood. "There's so much floating around out there, that it's hard to find the reality of it". That's what he says, every time I go to him about something else I just dug up about Mormonism. Trust me, I've tried with all the resources on the internet, and all he does is show me what really happened, and the FACTS to prove it!
I've tried getting him to sway, but he's rooted in the rock of his understanding.
 
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BlueAngel said:
I think that Mormons are misunderstood. "There's so much floating around out there, that it's hard to find the reality of it". That's what he says, every time I go to him about something else I just dug up about Mormonism. Trust me, I've tried with all the resources on the internet, and all he does is show me what really happened, and the FACTS to prove it!
I've tried getting him to sway, but he's rooted in the rock of his understanding.
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There is a fairly well know quote that states "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything." It seems clear that he stands for something, but what do YOU stand for? Do you think it wise to build your stance upon his "rock of understanding"?
 
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BlueAngel

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Mormonism in a Nutshell|What Mormonism teaches | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry <~~here is a link that provides the basics of mormon teachings. Align these teachings with those of the bible. Also, bear in mind, though they claim to use the bible, they have a second book, the Book of Mormon, which they place as higher than the bible.

Mormonism was founded by Joseph Smith. A man well known as a criminal, thief and liar. He claims to have been visited by two angels, which gave him golden plates that he was to translate. No one has ever seen, or even seen evidence of these golden plates other than Joseph Smith. Also, he has recounted the story of how he received these plates on various occasions and each time the story differed. Time of day, location, etc.. he never told the same story twice.

So with the link provided, and the history of the religions origins, what do you think? Does this sound like the God of the bible to you?
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I've come to him with this too! He looked at it, and pointed out everything that was wrong. He told me, again that you have to dig really deep to find something that's actually true about the Mormons, because there are so many lies from people who haven't even seen what Mormons are like. They say they know it to be true, but they don't!
They use the Book of Mormon, second only to the Bible, as a mater of fact, I haven't seen this guy use the book of Mormon once... Not even when he's trying to prove to me that all of this junk on the internet is wrong.
He hasn't tried pushing me to read the book, I haven't asked, he hasn't even mentioned it. Every time I bring it up, he says "I'm not trying to prove the book to you, I don't need the stinkin' book to show you".
All this stuff about Joseph Smith was made by people who hated him, and would make up stories about him. The thing with the plates, was not that he would make up different ways he got them, but he'd hide them, so people wouldn't abuse them. The different stories, came from the different times he'd bring them out to translate them.
Other people did see the plates, there were at least eight others who saw them, and gave a written report on them, with their signatures.
 
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BlueAngel

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LightningClap0002 said:
I pray that you are different than me. When I have gotten to the point that you are at, it is already too late. Waiting for God simply isn't an option for me once I get to that point. My own desires have already so tainted my opinion that I can't rely on myself. God gave us parents for a very good reason! Their opinions are invaluable, especially when finding a spouse. In the absence of parents, friends can fill in quite well. Be careful, though. It's far too easy to discount their opinions with thoughts like "oh, they just don't know everything going on" or "they don't know him like I do" or "they don't really understand" or "well we are special, we really love each other". Most times, these are lies.

Be careful BlueAngel.
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Thank you Lightning... But it's not that I love him... that has nothing to do with it at this point. If God told me to leave him, I would, without a backward glance.
He's been proving this to my parents, as well as me, he's finding facts, in the BIBLE that prove everything... I wish I could remember all of them...
My friends are all different religions, or have no religion at all.... I've had an earfull about what each of them think.
 
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BlueAngel;682664If God told me to leave him said:
The problem is figuring out IF God is telling you to leave him. That's where things get tricky. :)
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BlueAngel

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LightningClap0002 said:
There is a fairly well know quote that states "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything." It seems clear that he stands for something, but what do YOU stand for? Do you think it wise to build your stance upon his "rock of understanding"?
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I'm standing on everything I've been taught, that's my rock of understanding. But if God told me get off, I would. I'm going to follow God, no matter what. It's his job to lead, it's my job to follow. The problem here, is that I'm scared he'll tell me to go, and I'll lose everything I hold dear.
This is hard for me, and he knows that. He also knows, that whatever God tells me, I'll do. He knows that if God says it, I'll walk out. He knows that if it were up to me, I'd be gone already, because he knows this is hard for me.
 
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BlueAngel

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LightningClap0002 said:
The problem is figuring out IF God is telling you to leave him. That's where things get tricky. :)
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The problem is, that I'm scared of Gods answer, so I haven't asked. I'm scared that he'll tell me to go, and I'll lose everything and everyone. My parents will love me no mater what religion I choose. But again, this guy tells me, that if I lose my friends, they never really were my friends.
 
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Mark 8:36 What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?

But here's where things get complicated: Are your friends Christians? If you abandon Christians, then Mark 8 doesn't apply. If you are following a path that leads you away from those Christians who know and love you, then it should be a sign that something is wrong. If you are acting in opposition to the advice of many Christians, then you are NOT "giving up the world" to keep your soul; you are, in truth, giving up your soul (and your friends :() for the world (or a part of the world).
 
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BlueAngel

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Mormonism isn't the world. And the friends I have here with me, I know, will love me no matter what. They're even supporting me. And they're christian.
Because they know this guy, and they know the whole truth about the religion, they're not influenced by all the junk they find on the internet.
A true christian accepts others, no matter what their religion is. I don't think Jesus cared what religion people were.
 
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Jullianna

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BlueAngel said:
I think that Mormons are misunderstood. "There's so much floating around out there, that it's hard to find the reality of it". That's what he says, every time I go to him about something else I just dug up about Mormonism. Trust me, I've tried with all the resources on the internet, and all he does is show me what really happened, and the FACTS to prove it!
I've tried getting him to sway, but he's rooted in the rock of his understanding.
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What is troubling our hearts is..are you rooted in the Rock of YOUR understanding?
 
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Jullianna

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BlueAngel said:
Mormonism isn't the world. And the friends I have here with me, I know, will love me no matter what. They're even supporting me. And they're christian.
Because they know this guy, and they know the whole truth about the religion, they're not influenced by all the junk they find on the internet.
A true christian accepts others, no matter what their religion is. I don't think Jesus cared what religion people were.
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A true christian LOVES others, no matter their religion. But if Jesus didn't care what religion people were, He wouldn't have come down here to DIE for us and to tell us that He is the Truth, the Light and the Way..the ONLY WAY, and that NO ONE comes to the Father except through Him. That's how much He absolutely DOES care about it.

Sometimes God lets us know we're headed the wrong way and we simply don't like it, so we argue about it. But on some level, we already know the truth.
 
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