Single Men It's Time to Step Up!

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IBDesmond

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I don't know about anyone else but the biggest reason I'm still single is financial.

I feel you. My confidence would go up had I had a bit more financial stability.
 
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what´s the cost of stepping up?

Jesus talked about wars, building a house... and marriage is part of it!

Luk 14:28 Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. What is the first thing you will do? Won't you sit down and figure out how much it will cost and if you have enough money to pay for it?
Luk 14:29 Otherwise, you will start building the tower, but not be able to finish. Then everyone who sees what is happening will laugh at you.
Luk 14:30 They will say, "You started building, but could not finish the job."

I would care too little on their laughing: Each house has its builders.
 

Pheonix

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what´s the cost of stepping up?

Jesus talked about wars, building a house... and marriage is part of it!

Luk 14:28 Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. What is the first thing you will do? Won't you sit down and figure out how much it will cost and if you have enough money to pay for it?
Luk 14:29 Otherwise, you will start building the tower, but not be able to finish. Then everyone who sees what is happening will laugh at you.
Luk 14:30 They will say, "You started building, but could not finish the job."

I would care too little on their laughing: Each house has its builders.
Which is exactly my point, why would I start building the house (marriage) if I don't have the money to finish. I'd be wasting the money now when it might be needed 20 years from now or when ever.
 
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Brother!

If you buy your own piece of land, to build your own house, I won´t be so dependant like Isaac (his father blessed him a lot! But he tolied for nothing he had).

Will you wait for your parents to buy you a car or your new brand house? that´s your decision but, if you really work (like Jacob did) it ne nice to build it for yourself.

The laws of my country acknowledges whatever thing i have before being married. After marriage, whatever thing BOTH partners buy belongs to the community of good these both had so, if I had known it well, I should have finished my house before being married.

When a person dies here, his / her hears gets real state without sharing porperty with their spouse and, in the case of divorce (which is possible) each will keep what their parents left for them.

I myself do not care if I´m laughed or not if I failed building my house, or whatever thing I´ve planned to make my own living alone.

Adulthood challanges us to be independent and, marriage, challanges us to be inter-dependent.
 
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SHE is the problem? Your son didn't participate in this exchange? You are taking every bit of responsibility that lies with BOTH partners and placing it on her. Men have the most to lose? I raised a daughter after the man whom I was married to walked away and signed away his rights to avoid paying child support. I feel that you are very disappointed in the way things turn out, and I understand why you are, but there is enough responsibility to lie on both sides. The girl might not have the best morals, but biology states that she couldn't get pregnant without a willing partner. It is a disservice to your son to place the blame on her. He made a decision, as did she, and both need to own up to it. Thankfully, it sounds as though your son is. Praise God for that.
He got her pregnant but shes the problem? Seems your son is a bit immature also.My best advice is for him to concentrate on the ministry and leave the ladies alone till he grows up a little.
For clarity's sake I'm not saying he was perfect at all..... but how many men will say 'no' to a woman being 'easy'?
She would call him & ask him to come over when her parents were gone..... she even seduced him once when her mother was across the hall! I DO blame him for allowing that to happen...... nevertheless she set him up, then a guy with a football scholarship in college who lost everything, & the 3rd guy I don't know. 3 kids in 5 years, still single, & no job all say she knew what she was doing.

As for your situation, I understand that also happens a lot. I'm sorry if I came across as totally one-sided, but then again, I'm a parent.

If I remember correctly, a man can't sign away rights without the wife allowing it. They usually do cuz they don't want the guy ever coming back..... a tough decision, yes. But since he left, you had full rights to child support. In Ky, a guy can sign away rights & still pay support.
 
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For clarity's sake I'm not saying he was perfect at all..... but how many men will say 'no' to a woman being 'easy'?
She would call him & ask him to come over when her parents were gone..... she even seduced him once when her mother was across the hall! I DO blame him for allowing that to happen...... nevertheless she set him up, then a guy with a football scholarship in college who lost everything, & the 3rd guy I don't know. 3 kids in 5 years, still single, & no job all say she knew what she was doing.

As for your situation, I understand that also happens a lot. I'm sorry if I came across as totally one-sided, but then again, I'm a parent. (...)
If I wanted a "long-term" relationship i observed THAT, to avoid being hurt (or despised).

If she said "I was a gay" for not taking her wherever it was supposed to, I cared too little. Yet, before being a believer, I slept with whomever I liked, but no man is forced by "easy" girls or women.

That´s a lie male sex is forced!
 

IBDesmond

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I've had sex offered to me. I've had a hott girl in my bed at a party. Guess what....I'm still a virgin.

**the who village emerges from their houses and congregates in the street chanting "ALL HAIL LORD CHIPOTLE! ALL HAIL LORD CHIPOTLE!"**



(I'm totally jesting)
 

Roh_Chris

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**the who village emerges from their houses and congregates in the street chanting "ALL HAIL LORD CHIPOTLE! ALL HAIL LORD CHIPOTLE!"**

(I'm totally jesting)
Oh Lord Chipotle, thou jesteth much! :p

Not even sure if that is a word..
 
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kaylagrl

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For clarity's sake I'm not saying he was perfect at all..... but how many men will say 'no' to a woman being 'easy'?
She would call him & ask him to come over when her parents were gone..... she even seduced him once when her mother was across the hall! I DO blame him for allowing that to happen...... nevertheless she set him up, then a guy with a football scholarship in college who lost everything, & the 3rd guy I don't know. 3 kids in 5 years, still single, & no job all say she knew what she was doing.

As for your situation, I understand that also happens a lot. I'm sorry if I came across as totally one-sided, but then again, I'm a parent.

If I remember correctly, a man can't sign away rights without the wife allowing it. They usually do cuz they don't want the guy ever coming back..... a tough decision, yes. But since he left, you had full rights to child support. In Ky, a guy can sign away rights & still pay support.


Well I know mothers are protective of their sons,I dont want to put him down.In many ways I'm sure he is terrific.But when you say "what man will say no to a woman being easy"? That is still an excuse kind of covering him.If he is going to be in the ministry,possibly in front of people,temptation will be there.Women find preachers,singers etc. attractive.He'll have to be strong enough and mature enough not to give in to women flirting with him.Remember the story of Joseph who ran leaving clothing behind.It's not easy,I totally understand but he needs to build up his faith so he doesn't make the same mistake twice.As to the girl,do you know her past? Many girls who have been molested when young or had a bad father figure tend to seek men to make them feel more secure and loved and therefore sleep around.Pray for her rather than simply judge her.
 

Elizabeth619

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Can I just say when it comes to pregnancy that being pregnant is not a sin. A baby is a BLESSING. The act is a sin. As in sex. And yes, some girls will trap a guy. And some guys turn into deadbeats. All situations are different.
 
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agirlandherguitar

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I am often asked why I am still unmarried because 26 is the marriageable age for a guy in India. Most of my friends who are in the age band of 25-30 are all married and more than half of these marriages are arranged (where parents choose the spouse for them). I see incomplete individuals getting married to incomplete spouses unmindful of the enormous responsibilities that await them. I see young adults who are yet to fully discover themselves thrust into the world of marriage and child-rearing by an impatient society. I see youths who have just graduated out of college "married off" by parents who want to see their grandchildren "before they die". I see churches coercing couples to have children without allowing them the space and time to explore their relationship. These youths are oblivious to the enormous challenges that await them right after they pronounce "I do". Their shoulders are too weak to bear the burden, their hands are too thin to bear and their feet are too feeble to walk the long path. Yet they proceed to tie the knot like two teenagers, blissfully unaware of the consequences of their decision. They send out glittering and colourful wedding cards that pronounce their love for each other. They host grand weddings and hire the best event managers to run the entire show. They marry in the most scenic locations and in the most charming churches. They wear designer gowns and suits and exchange rings of diamond and precious stones. They spend their honeymoon in exotic locations and cruise around the world.

But life is not going to let them have it all their way. It awaits them until they are back from their honeymoon. Like an assassin waiting for his target, life lies in wait until they step foot into their home. The first rent on that new home. The first instalment on that new car. The first instalment on the wedding ring. The first day at office after the honeymoon. Her first period spent with him. Like a slugfest, life unloads upon them with blow after blow. They reel from the blows and stumble around. Their family and friends cheer on from the sidelines but no-one dares to step into the ring to fight for them. Round 1 concludes overwhelmingly in favour of life. Then round 2. An upper cut. A jab. They find themselves on the ropes. Then comes the suckerpunch - her pregnancy and the birth of their first child. Their legs give way and they collapse to the floor. The cracks start to appear. The fights become louder. What was spoken within the 4 walls of their swanky bedroom is now spoken in the living room before their families. What was exchanged in text messages and phone calls is now exchanged through group texts and conference calls. Counsellors are called. Swords are drawn. Shields are put up. Both parties look to "secure their base" before proceeding on this long, drawn out fight.

There are few who get married when they are ready to marry. The rest of them are sucked into it like bugs into a vacuum cleaner. It is all a "rat race" and they associate marriage as yet another milestone to pass in that race. I have a friend who is 24 years old and already has a one year old son. He is unable to make it for almost every trip we make because he has to be home and take care of his son. It is painful to listen to him because he keeps telling me "Oh I wish I could come with you. I really want to. But I have to be home with the kid." It is not as if we are footloose youths who do as per our whims and fancies. But he is unable to take a break for himself. In his haste to get married and rear kids he has lost his identity. And today he clings on to his wife and kid because that is his only world. That is the only part of him that exists.

As far as this topic is considered, I have to clarify that there are two parts of a romantic relationship - commitment and marriage. One may be reluctant to get married but he/she may not be averse to committing to a relationship. I have made the conscious decision to stay unmarried until 30 because I want to enjoy every moment of the liberty I have right now. I believe this is the time when God wants me to grow into a fully mature adult (at the moment, I am far, far, far from it!). But that does not mean that I do not step up when I meet someone who I find interesting. I have never hesitated to ask a girl out if I feel that we could be great together. I would consider myself privileged if I can meet a girl who shares the same philosophy and who is willing to wait until we both are ready to say "I do". For me, marriage is about two close friends coming together and sharing a lifelong, God-centred, friendship.
This whole post was amazing, Roh-Chris. What I find most intriguing is your insight into rushing into marriage and Indian customs. I went to a wedding last year in India and saw for myself the glitz and glamour they put into their weddings. It was breathtaking, and thankfully the couple getting married are two good friends of mine who kept a long distance relationship going for three years before tying the knot. Apparently the first "love marriage" in his family. The arranged marriages... I don't understand but it's not my place to say one way is better than the other. It's strange how many similarities there are between a young couples experience as a married couple no matter where you live and what kind of culture surrounds you. In the end I am in love with the idea of being a team, being two close friends and battling this life out together with God overseeing them. I love that idea and I wish it for everybody, myself included.

Also, you should be a writer! Your second paragraph gave me some great visuals!
 
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ServantStrike

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Both had sex,both are the problem.He sinned along with her.Has she a problem,undoubtedly! But he doesnt get to sneak by.His next relationship failed and it was "her fault".I'm sorry but I see a lot of mommas boys in the church and it's not very conducive to relationships.Women aren't blameless,so dont jump me.Just saying in this situation the son is as guilty as the girl he slept with.Whatever else she did doesnt matter.In this situation two people decided to have sex,both made the wrong decision,both are guilty.Both sound very immature to me.
Can you define momma's boy?
 

Oncefallen

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kaylagrl

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Can you define momma's boy?
In this situation it seems that his mother,while I understand she loves her son dearly,is still defending him.To say what man cant turn down a loose woman,is still really putting the blame on his girlfriend. Therefore its seems he's a bit of a mommas boy.Maybe not,maybe Im wrong.She did say her son wasnt perfect so maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Tintin

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In this situation it seems that his mother,while I understand she loves her son dearly,is still defending him.To say what man cant turn down a loose woman,is still really putting the blame on his girlfriend. Therefore its seems he's a bit of a mommas boy.Maybe not,maybe Im wrong.She did say her son wasnt perfect so maybe I'm wrong.
I'm pretty sure that Stephen is a man, not a woman.
 
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ServantStrike

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Both had sex,both are the problem.He sinned along with her.Has she a problem,undoubtedly! But he doesnt get to sneak by.His next relationship failed and it was "her fault".I'm sorry but I see a lot of mommas boys in the church and it's not very conducive to relationships.Women aren't blameless,so dont jump me.Just saying in this situation the son is as guilty as the girl he slept with.Whatever else she did doesnt matter.In this situation two people decided to have sex,both made the wrong decision,both are guilty.Both sound very immature to me.
In this situation it seems that his mother,while I understand she loves her son dearly,is still defending him.To say what man cant turn down a loose woman,is still really putting the blame on his girlfriend. Therefore its seems he's a bit of a mommas boy.Maybe not,maybe Im wrong.She did say her son wasnt perfect so maybe I'm wrong.
So, you're defining a momma's boy as someone who is incapable of having their own thoughts after puberty. I've never heard the definition used so planly before, but I can agree that someone who relies on their parents' judgment rather than their own isn't going to make a very good mate.

I thought you were referring to people who might live at home, or who rely on support from others (perhaps parents, perhaps not). I've seen it extended to people with roommates, or to people who will still call their parents once a week to say hi.

I'm pretty sure that Stephen is a man, not a woman.
It's not a very popular girls name, is it?
 

Lynx

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Don't look now, but I think this thread is back on track. The OP returned just in time. :cool:

If a guy who calls his parents every week to say hi is a momma's boy, what is a girl who hangs out with her mother multiple times a week?
 
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1still_waters

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Don't look now, but I think this thread is back on track. The OP returned just in time. :cool:

If a guy who calls his parents every week to say hi is a momma's boy, what is a girl who hangs out with her mother multiple times a week?
An informant? :p
 
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ServantStrike

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No? What do they do instead? Throw the dead horse into the crack of Mount Doom?
That works too.
Ahahaha. You said crack.


*stops snickering*


Carry on everyone, carry on.