Tipping

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skylove7

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That last pic you didn't get the drum TinTin...awww man ;-)

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skylove7

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This is a christian site! I hope nobody tells me where to put that drum set! Lol...its one of my regular fave pics I use lol
 
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I have to agree with what Shouryu said. My mother used to be a waitress. I still can't figure out why they made such a low wage legal.
It's not. According to federal law, the restaurant must make up the difference if not enough tips are earned. But I doubt they ever have to, as even getting a few bucks a table will put them well over minimum; 5 tables per hour times 3 dollars per table is 15 per hour.

In some states, the restaurant has to pay minimum wage regardless of tips anyway.
 
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Wow only 2% less for bad service. I would give bad service all day if I only lost out on that much. 18% seems more of a reward than a penalty.

I tip 20 percent. I have tipped maybe 18 percent if the service is bad. Many time's I tip higher then 20 percent because I was a waitress for 10 long years and I know what it's like.
 
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I always tip even for bad service, but now that I see how generous you all are I might just stop tipping to help even things out! =D
 
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As I live in the United States, where we have legalized a slave wage for servers because they MAY receive gratuities...

1. How much do you tip for average service?
--15-20%

2. What do you consider to constitute "average service"?
--Polite, timely service, with few delays within the server's control (I never hold the server accountable for the kitchen's issues or if there are delays caused by inconsiderate customers they might also be serving)
3. How much do you tip for less than acceptable service?
--15%. Once again, servers in the US are paid a slave wage, less than half the legal minimum wage. Furthermore, EVERYONE HAS BAD DAYS. Maybe my server is injured and is moving slowly. Maybe they received some terrible news earlier in the day and are emotionally distraught. Maybe it's just one of THOSE days where no matter how hard they try, nothing seems to go right. That totally means we should make their day worse by ensuring that they receive absolutely NOTHING for the time or effort they've invested (even if it's not to a good result), because that's totally how Christ would do it, yeah? Oh...wait.
4. Is it ever okay to tip nothing to your server, and if so, when? If not, why not?
--No. See above. I may not be Peter or John, and cure someone's lameness, but the least I can do is offer a blessing that might put food on their table or gas in their car.
5. Should you tip more if you were difficult (had finicky kids, a complicated request, etc)?
--Hm. I don't know. I actually make it a point to not be difficult. Those poor people put up with enough as it is.
5.1 Should you tip less if you were pleasant (acted very politely, altered your order to make the server's job easier, etc)?
--No; once again, less than minimum wage.
6. Any other thoughts on the subject?
--Sure. If our government did not allow for restaurants and bars to shirk the responsibility of paying their employees an ACTUAL WAGE, this wouldn't even be an issue. Seriously.
By it's very name, a GRATUITY is supposed to be a gratuitous payment, something I should not feel obligated to give. But because I am aware that the restaurant industry is allowed to pay these people less than $3 an hour, what I give is no longer gratuitous, but instead, an additional fee in order to make sure my server is properly compensated.

As you can see, I feel very strongly about this; were it within my power, I would undo whatever stupid legislation went into place to put servers in such a crappy place. The vast majority of the civilized world has this all figured out already: my server should be paid by their employers, and if my server is gratuitously amazing in their duties, then I can choose to be gratuitously gracious in thanking them monetarily. If I choose to tip, it should automatically be a blessing, rather than an obligation.

Servers are not lesser people. They do not deserve to be treated as such.
Yea, what's up with that.
 

Lynx

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Hmm... so Stratocaster, I have to agree with another member of the forum and ask why DID you start this thread? It seems to be a place where you freely deride everyone who ventures an opinion. You put me down after the first comment I made.
 

p_rehbein

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It's not. According to federal law, the restaurant must make up the difference if not enough tips are earned. But I doubt they ever have to, as even getting a few bucks a table will put them well over minimum; 5 tables per hour times 3 dollars per table is 15 per hour.

In some states, the restaurant has to pay minimum wage regardless of tips anyway.
Please quote this Federal Law
 

p_rehbein

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Stratocaster,

There's information on this all over the internet.

1. I'm curious why you're asking this here, on a Christian site.


2. I'm curious what you encountered that prompted you to ask about this.
Have a bad time at restaurant?
Wager with a buddy?
I'm just curious.
Did you get an answer?
 

Fenner

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Wow only 2% less for bad service. I would give bad service all day if I only lost out on that much. 18% seems more of a reward than a penalty.

Usually a person waiting on me is someone I don't know. Unless someone is horribly rude or ignoring me, I chalk it up to, they're having a bad day and we all have those sometimes.
 
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MollyConnor

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What are your thoughts on tipping, specifically at a dine-in restaurant?
I do it because I know they get paid very little to begin with. It's crazy! My best friend worked as a waitress and she got paid $2.80 an hour! So I try to give them as much as I can. Funny thing is, I would much rather eat at a fast food place than a fancier restaurant. My mom was a single mom and I grew up going to fast food places and not the fancy ones. Like I actually dislike Olive Garden, I think it's nasty and overpriced. I would much rather go to McDonalds lol!

1. How much do you tip for average service?
15% sometimes a little more because of the change. I like to even it out to a dollar amount.

2. What do you consider to constitute "average service"?
When the waiter/waitress does everything they are supposed to do. Brings us for refills, bring us the food, brings the silverware etc.

3. How much do you tip for less than acceptable service?
One time I went to Pizza Hut to dine in there. I had to get up three times for a refill (I was with my mom and so I got her a refill too). The guy never came to help us. We left him a tip but I remember it wasn't the full 15%.

4. Is it ever okay to tip nothing to your server, and if so, when? If not, why not?
If he/she doesn't come at all to help you, then I don't think it's wrong to not tip him/her. He didn't do his job! But it's rare for them never to come at all. And even when it happened to my mom and I, we did tip him.

5. Should you tip more if you were difficult (had finicky kids, a complicated request, etc)?
I think so. Some kids can get pretty bad! LOL

5.1 Should you tip less if you were pleasant (acted very politely, altered your order to make the server's job easier, etc)?
Just tip the normal 15%.

6. Any other thoughts on the subject?
I feel bad for waiters/waitresses. They have families that they need to feed/support. They have bills to pay. Let's do the Christian thing and pay what they need. I believe that is 15%, right?
Even if restaurants paid them the minimum wage, their food prices would go up and perhaps some customers would stop going. So it's not really a win-win situation.




 

Descyple

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Here is a good two-minute talk by Matt Chandler related to how our attitudes should be towards servers.

[video=youtube;bFUQlBe6i6I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFUQlBe6i6I[/video]
 

p_rehbein

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So, is this thread on life support? Can I go ahead and toss that wrench now? :)
 

Lynx

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No, not yet! I'm still waiting for Strat to tell us why he started this thread.
 

p_rehbein

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Shoot, you know he will probably never return............sigh

(edited...........)

Hmm, I could back door it to the BDF.........that might be more fun....... :)
 

JesusLives

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Having been a single mother going out to eat in the beginning with a small child was a treat in a sit down restaurant so during that time I tipped whatever I could afford and well maybe sometimes nothing cause I didn't have it.....Didn't go out to eat much either.... After finances improved some and we are talking over 30 years ago 10% was my norm. Then after daughter grew up and I could eat out for fun if I wanted I went to the 15-18% range.

There have been at least 2 or 3 times that I left 2 cents with a note on the back of the receipt as to why such a ick tip with a little helpful hints as to how to improve service or why they received such a tip. No I didn't call the manager to complain as I felt the note might help them to want to improve.
 

hoss2576

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Maybe someone can explain this to me, but if tipping is a reflection of service then why do most tip as a percentage of meal cost? You hear people talk about tipping 15-20% for the wait staff, but it doesn't completely make sense. If you go to a mom and pop restaurant that is a little cheaper, the waiter can do is a good job, but get a lower tip because the meal is cheaper than if the same waiter did a similar job at a higher dollar restaurant.

I just have always wondered why that is.
 

Lynx

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For the same reason we do everything else of course - that's how they've always done it. Tradition makes the world go 'round.

But yeah, it is rather odd.