Arrogant Athiests?

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Lol do you always try to be such a Zuckerberg? You are exhausting. Put your toys back in the baby carriage man :) I accepted your answers and moved swiftly on to the religious side of the discussion, because in all honesty, I sensed you would be as anal as you are if I continued to ask anything else about science, and I couldn't be bothered to read you continually talk down to me like you somehow are better than I am. Now, if you want a real argument, you can have one. Otherwise, retreat like you said.
 
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You came right into that conversation to talk down to me. The first thing you did was ignore nine questions because you assumed I did not have the mental capacity to comprehend your enormous knowledge. Now to be honest, if I'm going to wait for your explanations to legitimate questions, and respect your clearly more knowledgeable scientific expertise, I expect you to do similarly when the religious side of the discussion comes round. But obviously, you know everything and I'm boring you.
 

Calmador

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If it is evil to ALLOW evil, as you put it, would that not make God evil? He allows evil to continue everyday without interference, for the most part. Sure he puts an end to some evil, but you said it's not good enough to be 10% good or 50% good and since God IS perfection he would always be 100% good, perfect. Does that mean that allowing evil as God does is actually good?
Sorry about the last reply, school and life distracted me. Anyways...

God is a different, if God didn't allow evil guess what would happen to you? Me? And everyone else? All judged, and in hell right here and right now. God is in his own category. He allows it, for now, because he loves you, me and everyone else, his patient with us. But there will be a time when he will deal with evil once and for all. And it'll be either heaven or hell.

However us? We allow evil because we are evil. Because, when we lie we think of ourselves, when we do evil, its completely for evil. God doesn't do evil but he sits there and forgives it for our own good, again if he were to judge, we'd all be doomed. He gives us time to choose Jesus Christ to get saved.

I was wrong in saying what I said, when considering God into that question. I was only thinking of human beings. So what I aimed in my question really was of committing some evil, half of some, mostly? It's evil to commit evil.

Have you committed evil?

Yes, then that would make you evil.

If so then clearly you are evil, it's a tough pill to swallow but it's true.
 
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Why must the Body of Christ be so argumentive? We are only suppose to speak&act by spirit.. To edify....
 

TheKringledOne

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:mad: why are Athiests so arrogant, the bible even says there fools,but why?They seem to just waste there life on trying to say god isn't real.
Examples:
The Big Bang Theory
Evolution
Talking about the big bang or biological evolution is not implying that God does not exist. If atheists you know do that you should inform them that they are mistaken.


Etc. Even though we prove them wrong they dont understand... ah well, but I still wanna know why are Athiests so Arrogant?
Proved them wrong about what?
 
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Sorry about the last reply, school and life distracted me. Anyways...

God is a different, if God didn't allow evil guess what would happen to you? Me? And everyone else? All judged, and in hell right here and right now. God is in his own category. He allows it, for now, because he loves you, me and everyone else, his patient with us. But there will be a time when he will deal with evil once and for all. And it'll be either heaven or hell.

However us? We allow evil because we are evil. Because, when we lie we think of ourselves, when we do evil, its completely for evil. God doesn't do evil but he sits there and forgives it for our own good, again if he were to judge, we'd all be doomed. He gives us time to choose Jesus Christ to get saved.

I was wrong in saying what I said, when considering God into that question. I was only thinking of human beings. So what I aimed in my question really was of committing some evil, half of some, mostly? It's evil to commit evil.

Have you committed evil?

Yes, then that would make you evil.

If so then clearly you are evil, it's a tough pill to swallow but it's true.
Look this whole thread is flawed to begin with, it is one person's opinion It is like someone asking 'why is it my opinion that atheists are arrogant?'

Secondly, God doesn't 'allow it for now', he gave us free will from the very day we were made, He has always allowed free will, and always will.
 
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:mad: why are Athiests so arrogant, the bible even says there fools,but why?They seem to just waste there life on trying to say god isn't real.
Examples:
The Big Bang Theory
Evolution
Etc. Even though we prove them wrong they dont understand... ah well, but I still wanna know why are Athiests so Arrogant?
Every religion/belief system has arrogant people who think they're the enlightened ones because they have "the answers." And while yes there are some atheists who really do waste their lives trying to prove there is no god/higher power/flying spaghetti monster (and I say it's a waste because no matter what you believe you will never convince the world you are right), most of them have a life and better things to do and would in fact rather continue to believe there is no god in peace rather than argue it over with devout believers.
 
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TyphaniNichole

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I dont believe there are athiest because when something bad happens God is the 1st person they call lol so athiest dont exist to me
 
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I dont believe there are athiest because when something bad happens God is the 1st person they call lol so athiest dont exist to me
This might be something you do but this is not the case for everyone. It is not a good idea to project your own qualities on to your perception of others without sufficient evidence.

Those who do not believe do not call out for a god. For the same reason someone wouldn't call out for superman if falling off a building.
 
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They're arrogant because they're so astonished at the amount of brainwashing and the logical fallacy that christian fail to see right in front of them. “Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is the belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.”
 
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TyphaniNichole

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This might be something you do but this is not the case for everyone. It is not a good idea to project your own qualities on to your perception of others without sufficient evidence.

Those who do not believe do not call out for a god. For the same reason someone wouldn't call out for superman if falling off a building.

i wasnt necessarily judging, the ones i know that call themselves "atheist" actually call God when something happens that just makes me question them but i don't question
 
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So you feel that all the people claiming to be atheists that you know aren't actually atheists.

How do you feel about the people who have been in war zones or other terrible situation and claim to have never turned to a god or gods? Do you think that they secretly did and didn't openly show it?
 
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TyphaniNichole

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So you feel that all the people claiming to be atheists that you know aren't actually atheists.

How do you feel about the people who have been in war zones or other terrible situation and claim to have never turned to a god or gods? Do you think that they secretly did and didn't openly show it?

are you an atheist? sounds like you are getting a lil defensive :rolleyes:
 
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Yes, and its a little odd that one would make claims like the one you were making. My reaction is not because I am an atheist though. I have the same reaction when my brother states that he doesn't believe that anyone actually believes in a god. It is the lack of scope and the use of unreasonable projection that bothers me.
 
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HerrGeschichte

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So you mean to say that the narrowness of ones mind irritates you?
 
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TyphaniNichole

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Yes, and its a little odd that one would make claims like the one you were making. My reaction is not because I am an atheist though. I have the same reaction when my brother states that he doesn't believe that anyone actually believes in a god. It is the lack of scope and the use of unreasonable projection that bothers me.

oh..okay well i wasnt directing it to you anyways its was an opinion which i do have a right to have an opinion as well as you have the right to ignore. so instead of being argumentive just ignore what i said, i'm pretty sure others on here have or has said some things way worst than me go argue with them not me
 
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oh..okay well i wasnt directing it to you anyways its was an opinion which i do have a right to have an opinion as well as you have the right to ignore. so instead of being argumentive just ignore what i said, i'm pretty sure others on here have or has said some things way worst than me go argue with them not me
If you don't want someone to point out the flaws in your thinking, why bother posting?
 
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So you mean to say that the narrowness of ones mind irritates you?
Yes. Geez, I suck at communicating.

oh..okay well i wasnt directing it to you anyways
I understand it wasn't meant to be directed at anyone. I just am curious as to what you are basing this belief on because I don't understand it. Is it simply because the people who you have seen claim to be atheists end up turning to a god in times of hardship?

its was an opinion which i do have a right to have an opinion as well as you have the right to ignore.
You have every right to hold this belief and to state it out in any forum you want. I also have the right ignore it, but that doesn't mean that I will choose to use that right. I am interested in why you hold the opinion that you do.

so instead of being argumentive just ignore what i said, i'm pretty sure others on here have or has said some things way worst than me go argue with them not me
There are people who say much worse things. That is no reason why I shouldn't be able to try to prompt a discussion over this matter. Your opinion seems to be one I hear commonly and it is a rather simple idea which I want to understand the basis for.



:mad: why are Athiests so arrogant, the bible even says there fools,but why?They seem to just waste there life on trying to say god isn't real.
The reason a lot of atheists are confronting to religious beliefs are because the beliefs of others influence the world around them. Some atheists feel like they are being ostracized from their community simply because of their lack of belief. Some of these atheists feel that it is unfair to be treated the way they are and criticize the religious justifications for their treatment. There are many atheists that take this too far and start to insult people for their religious beliefs. I believe that the reason they do this is because they feel treated or annoyed by their surrounding culture and don't know how to react to it. Some atheists think they are smarter because they came to the conclusion in their mind, for whatever reason, that a god does not exist. The atheists who think they are superior simply because they lack a belief in a god are definitely foolish in this respect.

In some places people are treated negatively simply because they do not believe in a god. I know that I was when I was younger. I was called names, insulted, treated, and beaten up when I was in junior high when people figured out that I didn't believe in God. They found out I didn't believe in God because I would not say "under God" during the pledge of allegiance.