Alcohol

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jimmydiggs

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But wrong, depending on what state they are in :)
Correct. Some states the age is lower, similarly as it is lower in Europe as well.

Some states have special exceptions to the laws. The state of Kansas had a law for many years, that an 18 year old could drink 3-2 beer, which was less potent than traditional beer.
 
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BananaPie

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Do you guys think that alcohol is wrong? I mean in the Bible it talks about wine, but it also mentions not to get drunk with it. Is social drinking wrong? The reason I ask is because it seem so many times I am at a party and people ask me to drink. I choose not too because I am unsure of this issue.
It is wiser to avoid drinking alcohol for the sake of others being weak and you may become a stumbling block.

A cup of wine over dinner, 3-4 times a year is not a stumbling block.
It is not sin to consume wine with a meal. It is sin to be drunk at any time.

I'm very glad you chose not to drink. You are creating a name for yourself and eventually, people will respect you for it. Always choose to be in harmony with the Lord.

 
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fallofshadows

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My two cents on the issue:

Underaged drinking here in America has this stigma to it where it's a wicked rebellious thing to do. In other countries and cultures, this isn't true. But here in American, getting drunk is the "cool" thing to do if you're trying to be rebellious or whatnot.

Is alcohol wrong? Nah. Jesus Himself drank it. The Bible also says "it is not what goes into your stomach... that defiles you." Is getting drunk wrong? As the person above me stated, yes, it is.

Finally, a note to Americans: While drinking alcohol isn't sinful, Paul wrote in Romans to obey the law, because those who give the law are actually servants of God. That's right, the government is actually set up by God. Romans also says that disobeying the law is therefore disobeying God.

So, if the law says you can't drink till age 21, guess what? It's actually going against God to drink before you're 21.


Well, that's my spiel.
 
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ShelleBelle76

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Do you guys think that alcohol is wrong? I mean in the Bible it talks about wine, but it also mentions not to get drunk with it. Is social drinking wrong? The reason I ask is because it seem so many times I am at a party and people ask me to drink. I choose not too because I am unsure of this issue.
I understand your desire to get varying opinions. But it's not really the opinions of one person or the other that matter does it? You have to look for yourself at what the Bible says about it! This was a topic of interest for me when I decided to follow God, and I read everything I could find in the Bible regarding drinking, in order to KNOW what was right.

I am determined not to live my life simply based on religious tradition, but on the truth of the scripture.

And now you are probably wondering what that conclusion was... but if you look and find it for yourself, it won't be just another person's opinion, but instead a truth you will know beyond a doubt!
 
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lightbliss

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But wrong, depending on what state they are in :)
I know, but not everyone knows every state's laws on alcohol and 21 is the general age in which it is legal in the U.S, so I'd stick to that :).
 
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sandstorm7

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Here in Canada the drinking age is 19 and so, being a university student, I am often tempted by drinking and partying. In fact, it is something I really struggled with before coming to Christ. Here's how I look at it, coming from the perspective of someone who has been there done that for a few years now:

1. There is really no sense in getting drunk. It clouds your judgement for one thing which can be very dangerous. But more importantly, think of how that would look to those you witness to? I recently told all of my non-Christian school friends about how I was saved. If suddenly they see me drinking and partying like I used to, what would that make them think?

2. Some people see no harm in having a drink or two, as long as you still have a clear mind to make decisions and remain a good Christian role model. I agree with that, but be cautious. Some people, including myself, become tempted to have one or two MORE drinks after those first two. I know that having a drink or two with my friends won't get me drunk, but it will sure tempt me to. And sometimes I struggle dealing with those temptations. So why put myself in that situation? Doesn't make sense. Know your limits and stay there.

3. This next one really helped me to change my outlook. Look at what you truly desire in life. Are your actions reflecting that? I used to surround myself with constant partiers and drinkers and I led a similar lifestyle to that. But that really didn't coincide with what I wanted in the future. A godly husband, a family, a strong relationship with God, a rewarding career... I wasn't going to find any of that drinking or going to parties. So instead I've started surrounding myself with Christian people and doing other fun things while my other friends go out to bars on weekends. It's actually a lot more fun and I've learned a lot about myself in the process.

Just some things to consider in the future, hope this helps!
God bless
 
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godisgood7

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Underage drinking is cowardly. You shouldn't drink just because other people are. They are drinking because they are too much of a coward to stand up for themselves. And fyi drinking for the purpose of getting drunk is a sin.
 
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ok if you are of legal age there is nothing wrong with having a drink. Anyone who says there is, is quoting a personal belief not one from scripture or anywhere else. Getting drunk on the other is a negative. 1 or 2 glasses of wine or beer is nothing. It's not sinning and it's not wrong.
 
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Underage drinking is cowardly. You shouldn't drink just because other people are. They are drinking because they are too much of a coward to stand up for themselves. And fyi drinking for the purpose of getting drunk is a sin.

That is so ridiculous, not everyone who drinks "underage" is a coward. People do have minds of their own. They are not forced to drink.
 
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scottman719

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Everyone is saying that the bible doesn't say that drinking is wrong, which is true, but on the other hand, it never condones it.

The word wine in the bible simply meant grape juice, whether alcoholic or non alcoholic they didn't differentiate. When Christ turned water into wine, if you look at the exegesis, it was most likely non-alcoholic.

I personally don't think drinking is a good thing, and if you are using it to purposely alter your state of mind it is most certainly wrong.
 
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Jenny_eLi18

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Well, I definitely have to agree with scottman719. The wine mentioned in the bible was only grape juice. Beside the point, drinking in general is wrong and it is also wrong just to have a couple of drinks, even if it doesn’t get you drunk. The bible clearly states drunkenness is wrong (Galatians 5:19-21). However, it also has warnings about alcohol. Proverbs 20:1 says, “Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.” In order to understand this scripture verse you have to understand alcohol affects a part of your brain that stops you from getting involved in behaviors that you know are wrong. This is where it can also be dangerous because you don’t have to be drunk to lose your self-consciousness. Sometimes just a little alcohol it all it takes. But you also have to know you have to be whole to God. “Everything is permissible for me”- but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible for me” – but I will not be mastered by anything.” 1 Corinthians 6:12. Anyways, in your situation alcohol can be very tempting. I mean I know. I’m only 18! But I recommend reading Jeremiah 35. It would help you understand why it is important to obey God. “Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18. The bible tells it all. :]
 
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Jenny_eLi18

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#33
Correct that. It affects the part of your brain that inhibits or stops you from getting involved in behaviors that you know are wrong and that you wouldn't be involved in otherwise. My bible describes this.
 
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portert100

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hmmm...I haven't considered the drinking issue from the way you've (person above me) put it. I kind-of get what you are saying. Thanks that helps
 
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GreenDragon

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I don't think there is anything wrong with drinking SOCIALLY. I personally chose not to. I work with people who go out every weekend (and weekdays to) To get hammered and last time we went on a "staff night out" One of the guys got a bit to drunk and ended up showing a bit to much of himself and went home with one of the female staff.. both of whom where drunk. We do things when we are drunk that we shouldn't, we lose our senses. That's personally why I won't drink. I'd rather be the one helping the drunk ones into taxies. :)
 
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asamanthinketh

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well, as long as you are not judgemental I will speak from experience.

Do not drink just because someone else asks you to. You say you don't want to, so at all viewpoints you will be better off for not drinking.

Now if this person who is forcing, bullying, or thinking you are fearful because you don't want to drink, well, then I don't know what to say. Sometimes we end up doing things because if you don't prove yourself to someone else, they will end up harming you, distrusting you, and just making your life hell.

Know yourself. Alcohol is not bad in of itself.

I've often thought that the way it is made, maybe sometimes it cures some diseases in the body because of it's chemical makeup, but I don't really know if that is true for sure.

Many bad things happen in life, I'm sorry if you haven't figured that out yet.
A little drinking is not the worst thing.

Just don't get addicted.

Because then you may find that the person who was drinking with you, is no where to be found to help you out of the mess.

So, normal humble people decided we're gonna do this together and see what happens.
Iinstead of creating disaster in one another's lives.

My intent in responding to your post is to share what I know at this time, and hopefully it will help you live the life you want
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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It's addictive. Recovery groups stretching the globe are full of teens and adults that never thought they would ever be addicted to alcohol. God is preparing a fresh outpouring and as a Christian: you have a gold engraved invitation sealed with the blood of God himself (e.g. Jesus's death and ressurection). Find a spirit filled church and get sold out for Jesus. Drink that new wine Jesus talked about. I'll see you there. Peace and God bless you.
 
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Yes alcohol is addictive, but not for everyone, like some people get addicted to different forms of prescription meds, but not everyone.
 
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NoTearsShed

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If you feel drinking is not right for you then don't drink, if your conscious is telling you not to then it might be your spirit telling you it's not right or Jesus.
In my opinion Drinking till you get drunk is wrong since it changes your state of mind resulting in mistakes and then you not being in full control of your actions.
Then there's the next morning when sometimes you don't remember anything that happend.
 

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29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. 31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. 32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. 33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. 34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast. 35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again. Prov 23:29-35 (KJV)