Beating children

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Charlamane

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When a child already understood that what he or she chose to do was against your rules or is just plain wrong, I personally believe that's when he or she needs to be punished. Even then, I think he or she should only be physically spanked if that child purposefully defies you and insists on doing so. If a child openly defies, willfully defies, then that must be addressed. If the child is ignorant that what he or she did is wrong, obviously, that child simply needs to be informed of why it was wrong (harmful to self or others) and why he or she must not do it again. As for punishment, it must be reasonable. You want the child to know that you don't really want to spank, let alone actually injure the child. You also need to make the child understand that you're spanking him or her to prevent the child from greater injury that will happen to the child or someone else if the child continues such behavior. You can spank without leaving a mark, and that's where you should draw the line. It's gotta at least sting though. lol. I think other ways of discipline such as time-out or having privileges taken away are better forms of punishment, but again, when a child insists upon defying you, I'm afraid spankings are often the only recourse. If handled correctly, you're not going to have to keep spanking that child anyway. Moses did say "spare the rod, spoil the child. He will not die." Moses was obviously talking about physical punishment here or he wouldn't have mentioned the "he will not die'' aspect. As for punishing a baby for biting, I think that's ridiculous. A baby has no understanding that it's hurting someone by doing that. A loud ouch and frown from the mom or anyone else will get that point across.
 
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Relena7

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Proverbs 13:24 Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.

Parents use many different forms of discipline. Not just spanking. Depending on the offense determines the discipline.
Spanking inflicts pain so they learn not to disobey again. It is a tool used to teach the child the consequence of their disobedience. It is not abusive. It is not a sin. The bible gives us instruction on how to discipline our children. To disagree with the Word of God will leave a person with a consequence that is ALOT worse than a spanking.
I'm not disagreeing with God. I'm saying I don't like spanking. I didn't say I hate all discipline.
 
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Precious_Sunflower

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Maybe I didn't ask the right way; When I ask how old they have to be, I mostly refered to conversations I have had with people that are 15-17 years old and still getting spanked on their butts, or hit on their hands as a punishment, and feeling awfully silly 'cause of this, especially if their friends hears about it. I think there is a difference with children that are 5 years old and then getting spanking as a punishment, than if you are between 15-20 years old.

These kids I chatted with would say that they would just say one word that weren't good according to their parents, or if they didn't made their homework nor got good enough grades, then the parents could punish them this way. I think there is a difference from which age you are in too, with this. Especially with spanking and hitting a line on your hand.
 

NateDaGrimes

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well if they behave then kids 15-17 are not really apt to be spanked. normally parents wouldnt spank an 18 year old.. more like talk..
 
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THIS is why I am against beating children:



Maybe the word beating is being misused in this thread, but beating and spanking are NOT the same thing.

There is a fine line between the two, and whoever crosses it is no longer a good parent, but a MONSTER.

 
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You don't need to "beat" a child to get the point across, a couple of good swats with them knowing they are about to get spanked and and why is much more effective, its as much about them having to anticipate the spanking. As the actual spanking, knowing its coming makes it much worse,God also us these convinient switches that grow all over the trees, they sting good,being a little kid and knowing mom or dad or grandma went to get a switch, it was like being on death row
 
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Those my age, think about what was worse, getting the actual paddling at the principals office, or that long walk down the "last mile" after getting called over the PA, some people just beat their kid sensless when its not needed
 
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Jordache

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Relena, It honestly used to make me sick. I would do more than tear up at the thought of "spanking" a child. I don't feel that way about myself anymore. The truth is, not every child will require spanking for discipline. Some may only require a time out, or another punishment. One kid may require a swat every few days. Another may require one every few months. It really depends on the kid. I think correct spanking inflicts more fear (as in awe) than anything. There is a necessary amount of pain, certainly, but I don't believe spanking is about hurting your child so much that all they remember for years is the pain inflicted.
I had issues with this type of punishment because my parents were both rage-aholics. My mom, especially, didn't think twice before she whacked me. I remember we went to a family counselor for a short while that we ran from from because she reported my mom when my mom and brother shared a story jokingly about how she hit my brother so hard one time he fell over. He was 8 at the time. In one sense, I was lucky. I was second in line of severity of punishment. My older brother was a handful and I remember my mom using hangers on him and breaking large objects on his backside when he was under 12. As for me my mom usd to smack me in the face almost everyday. My older brother followed suit. Many times I'd have hand prints on my face. Sometimes, when I was younger, she'd chase after me to hit me. Her ring would catch and I'd get welts on my arms and legs along with those handprints. If I said anything she would threaten to hit me again. She was terrifying. I grew up not knowing any good way to use physical punishment. I truly believe I would have been one of those children who didn't really need a lot of spanking. However, physical violence was all she knew. Raging was her MO. She didn't know how to reason, discuss, plan, or talk to me really at all. Discpline isn't just about making you pay consequences. It's about discovering exactly what was wrong, and how you can do better next time.
A child should never have a mark left. I know accidents happen that were not caused by rage, but a lack of self-control on the parents part should never leave a physical mark on a child. That's abuse. A child should not simply be spanked and left to figure out the rest on their own. Even a young child should be held accountable. A 3 yr old can tell you what he/she did wrong and what a better choice would be.
 

NateDaGrimes

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only thing is.. women cant really spank a child since they are too soft. this is why man are usually the leader of the house. usually kids need to be raised with a father figure.. person who is willing to lead and dicipline his kids.
 
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Jordache

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I dont know... my mom was pretty hard. I could be hard. My exhusbands family was opposite. The mom terrified the kids. They laughed when dad came around.
 
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Relena7

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only thing is.. women cant really spank a child since they are too soft. this is why man are usually the leader of the house. usually kids need to be raised with a father figure.. person who is willing to lead and dicipline his kids.
lol my mom was not soft when it came to spanking. That woman has strong arms. My dad was more the softie of the family at my house. He did not want to hit his "baby girl", he was such a worry wart. :p
 

Elizabeth619

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only thing is.. women cant really spank a child since they are too soft. this is why man are usually the leader of the house. usually kids need to be raised with a father figure.. person who is willing to lead and dicipline his kids.
Not everyone lives in a 2 parent household. Both parents or guardians should be the disciplinarian.
 

Elizabeth619

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lol my mom was not soft when it came to spanking. That woman has strong arms. My dad was more the softie of the family at my house. He did not want to hit his "baby girl", he was such a worry wart. :p
I always feared mom more than dad.
 
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Ebbiehearts

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Yes but it depends on the child. Not ever child needs the same amount of disipline. I should know my mom has 10 kids and I am the youngest and we have all been brought up in a God fearing home. Everthing she taught us came straight out of the bible. Yet and still I have had siblings that have been to jail and others who are currently in the military. The tarning is always in us but it is our choice to recive or reject. Parents are supposed to train children up in the way they should go but that doesn't guarantee that the child will follow your example. People grow up and lead the lives that the choose. But when you be who God has called you to be as a parent then he will bless you.
God Bless
 
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Ugly

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When that happened those were the longest, most agonizing minutes of my life. :p
The wait? Yeah. Horrible, almost worse than the spanking itself, haha. Didn't help my dad was over 6 foot tall, calm quiet type with huge hands, haha.
 
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The worst thing was when whoever was going to spank you, took a good green stick off the tree and took their time making it into a switch, those things would sting for a while, it would remind you of what you did
 
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Charlamane

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"Beating" doesn't have to mean beating until the blood comes and CPS is wailing at your door. And like Aqua_Girl09 said, some children simply need to know you're disappointed in them, others need a spanking on a bare bottom that stings. In my house, we never spanked unless a child openly and purposely defied after they understood perfectly that is was wrong to do so. Even then, you made it clear you didn't want to spank them, but that you had to, because otherwise, you were allowing them to do wrong, which was harmful to others as well as themselves. Also, you didn't spank to the point you left a mark. That's where the line was drawn. The reality of raising children is a world apart from idealism. This world is not what it should be. It's a mystery why we're so prone to do that which is destructive (though it obviously has to do with our sin nature, our seemingly natural tendency to do so), and children are born into that tendency to be destructive. We let that go unchecked, and destructiveness abounds.
 
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If a lot of these spoiled arrogant difiant teens of today had gotten their rear tore up, we wouldn't have nearly the issues we have
 
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Relena7

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If a lot of these spoiled arrogant difiant teens of today had gotten their rear tore up, we wouldn't have nearly the issues we have
Then they'd be spoiled, arrogant, and VIOLENT teens.
 
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No they would have learned right from wrong as a child, look around at the effects of kids growing up with no dipipline