Abortion and birth controll right or wrong

[finn75]

I don't say birth control is absolutely wrong but I feel that if a couple can take care of all children God wants to give them, why not they should not want to accept these gifts from God?

My wife got pregnant soon after we got married. We got married in May 2000 and in July 2001 our first child was born. We continued having sex without any birth control and soon after she stopped breast feeding, she got pregnant again. Our second child was born in 2003.

Soon after this she made clear to me that she had planned to have two kids and she wants me to get vasectomy (sterilization). I told that I will not get sterilized so she started birth control pills and also demanded me to use a condom every time we had sex after our second child.

I did not want to argue with her about that so I went along. Personally think that when a couple is married and can support more children there should not be need for birth control. God gives children and takes care of the timing too. Just starting the pill because one feels that two is enough is kind of taking control from God to her own hands.

 

[Nautilus]

So people shouldn't have any personal choice in how they want their lives to go? I can't blame her for not wanting a lot of kids, most people don't.

 

[David_1]

A woman has 100% right to make medical & moral decisions about her body. The state should have zero say.

That's an absolute right.

 

[Hellokitty123]

I'm all for abortion and birth control

 

[ChandlerFan]

A woman has 100% right to make medical & moral decisions about her body. The state should have zero say.

That's an absolute right.

No one has a right to take the life of a child, however. Convenience is not an absolute right.

 

[lady_of_jotunheim]

I believe the government shouldn't be allowed to control women's bodies and that the topic is really no one's business but their own.

 

[Revelator7]

I'm all for abortion and birth control

Are you serious? Do you not know that it is murder to "abort" an unborn child? It wouldn't be deemed as an abortion if there wasn't a life to abort. You agreeing with aborting means you agree with murderers and with doctors who play God.

 

[blue_ladybug]

If more men would slip on a rubber, and more women stuck to taking the pill, there would not be so many unplanned and unwanted pregnancies. But nooo, they get all hot n horny, and their common sense flies out the window. I think it should be mandatory that after a certain number of kids, you NEED to get spayed or neutered!! lol.. Just sayin'... Obviously, I'm for birth control..but NOT abortion.

I agree with Revelator7. I find it shockingly abhorrent that anyone could be FOR abortion!!

 

[Revelator7]

Let us all imagine birth control and abortion being rampant in the time right before Jesus was born into the world. If Mary's cousin Elizabeth would have been on birth control, John would not have been concieved. And if Mary didn't believe Gabriel the angel and would have allowed her finance to overcome her and cause her enough grief where she would want to reject the pregnancy, Jesus could have been aborted. Now think of the rest of God's people, imagine our lives without them. Birth control hidners the work of God. And abortion kills people that don't even have a chance to choose life.

 

[JesusChica1991]

I think if you're financially capable to take care of 10 kids, then go for it. But then again God is full of giggles.Also, I should note that sanity has a lot to do with it. If you can't handle raising more than your preferred amount of children, then don't have any more. If I have kids, it's gonna be 3 and that's it.

 

[karinamarie]

i personally think its up to the person who wants to go on birth control or have an abortion it may be wrong in other peoples eyes but when it comes to hand it is the individuals choice

 

[David_1]

All this would be solved in all women and girls became slaves and property of the state, then we could have absolute certainty and control over their bodies, and our anti-abortion agenda would be complete!

Chain your women to the kitchen sink today!!

Don't let them out in the wild.

This can be regulated by the local council dog catchers. Each woman is tagged and registered.

After all... it's the ONLY way to be sure!

/s

 

[AbbeyJoy]

I believe abortion is wrong..and besides why not take the other way if a women was rape and do something good as to find couple who can't have kids or wants to adopt is willing to take the baby...it's sad they don't think of it..

 

[butterfly712]

I think that abortion is wrong,you have a living thing inside of you,and I have always believed it's a sin to get rid of a unborn child,it's just wrong.

 

[ArtsieSteph]

I think abortion is wrong in all casses, whatever happened isn't the child's fault. But on birthcontrol I'm not as sure. Not saying it isn't wrong, I'm just not sure I've formed a well rounded opinion yet for or against. Ok, let's try and talk it out I guess.

Birth control, weather contraceptives or the day after pill, are a way to chemically reduce the likihood of pregnancy. Apparently it does happen even if the pill is taken, so does that mean that taking it was "killing the baby" if there is a likelihood it will happen anyway? And if preventing pregnancy is the wrong part, does that mean that condoms are wrong then by that same arguement?

Hrmrm....I just don't know. Maybe it depends on the circumstance. If it's "the day after" pill that means that you could already have a baby inside you and you're chemically nuetralizing the egg.

Ok Im a bit clearer now. I think the day after pill is wrong because you've already made the choice, the process has already begun. I imagine there are people that don't know and take the monthly pill...but does that mean unwillingly killing the baby at that point????

Wow this is tough.

 

[Wormwood]

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves on this. The problem is not how moral or immoral Plan A or Plan B are. The heart of the issue here is the nature of sin in the first place. Don't want a bun in the oven? Don't do the nasty.

Something that some of us value and esteem as sacred has been reduced to 'just sex.' To speak of "what's ethical?" on the matter of contraception and whether abortion is "okay" or not is like describing what the color of freedom is; we're banging our heads against a wall.

If I had to speak more plainly to the OP:

My question to put in short: Do you think is abortion or birth controll right or wrong?

Wrong. The morality, or lack thereof, in using either one (that's a separate argument) aside, these things serve to propagate the idea that sex is not a big deal, and thus further the notion that we can safely have sex with multiple people. We find too much comfort in the terms "safe sex" and "using protection."

 

[blue_ladybug]

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves on this. The problem is not how moral or immoral Plan A or Plan B are. The heart of the issue here is the nature of sin in the first place. Don't want a bun in the oven? Don't do the nasty.

Something that some of us value and esteem as sacred has been reduced to 'just sex.' To speak of "what's ethical?" on the matter of contraception and whether abortion is "okay" or not is like describing what the color of freedom is; we're banging our heads against a wall.

If I had to speak more plainly to the OP:


Wrong. The morality, or lack thereof, in using either one (that's a separate argument) aside, these things serve to propagate the idea that sex is not a big deal, and thus further the notion that we can safely have sex with multiple people. We find too much comfort in the terms "safe sex" and "using protection."

"don't want a bun in the oven? Don't do the nasty"? Seriously? Some women are FORCED into doing the nasty through rape, or maybe even were drugged and unconscious. It's not so easy to say "don't get jiggy with it" when some animal is on top of you with a knife to your throat, and gagging you and tying you up. I've been there, had that done to me.

As far as abortion goes, there is NEVER an excuse for it. As AbbeyJoy said, the woman can have it and give it up for adoption, or choose to keep it and raise it.

 

[Wormwood]

"don't want a bun in the oven? Don't do the nasty"? Seriously? Some women are FORCED into doing the nasty through rape, or maybe even were drugged and unconscious. It's not so easy to say "don't get jiggy with it" when some animal is on top of you with a knife to your throat, and gagging you and tying you up. I've been there, had that done to me.

As far as abortion goes, there is NEVER an excuse for it. As AbbeyJoy said, the woman can have it and give it up for adoption, or choose to keep it and raise it.

I agree with you, blue. That's awful...and the subject of rape comes full circle back to the issue of the nature of sin. You have my deepest condolences, for what it's worth. It's a despicable thing, and in the last few years I've learned that it's more commonplace than I had ever thought.

The heart of the issue here is the nature of sin in the first place.

What I'm speaking to here is not just people casually and jointly seeking self fulfillment, it applies to rape also, so I apologize if you thought I was being dismissive of anything you've been through.

 

[blue_ladybug]

wormwood, it's okay, and thank you. It's easy to say don't have sex, or use protection, but sometimes it's not possible, as in cases of rape. Rapists don't usually stop and put on a condom first, nor allow their victim to take their pill. Alot of unwanted pregnancies occur with rape, and therein lies the problem. Some women want nothing to do with it because they don't want a daily reminder of their rape, and others feel that it's not the baby's fault and end up keeping it or give it up for adoption. Ultimately it's between God and the woman.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

"don't want a bun in the oven? Don't do the nasty"? Seriously? Some women are FORCED into doing the nasty through rape, or maybe even were drugged and unconscious. It's not so easy to say "don't get jiggy with it" when some animal is on top of you with a knife to your throat, and gagging you and tying you up. I've been there, had that done to me.

As far as abortion goes, there is NEVER an excuse for it. As AbbeyJoy said, the woman can have it and give it up for adoption, or choose to keep it and raise it.

Rape/incest are one of the main arguments of the abortion-rights movement for abortion-on-demand.

Somehow, because of these extreme and unfortunate cases, abortion-on-demand becomes the only alternative.

Now, even though it doesn't appear to me that you are an abortion-rights supporter, you've brought up one of the primary abortion-rights arguments.

Does anyone realize, in the overall number of abortion done in a year in the USA, how small the percentage of cases where rape/incest/mother's life are actually even the reason abortion is chosen?