Enjoying myself without God.

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I just like stating the obvious. I don't go spewing scripture at someone saying that they never knew Jesus or were never saved when I don't know that person at all. But you're right its like a mirror looking into another mirror, seeing itself reflected in itself to infinity. :D
I totally agree with you.
 
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Dear Astro,

I still stand by my original point

hahah and im gonna have to agree with zero... Way to gooo on judging us for judging others... Your brilliant astro!
 
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"Next time when you but in, at least try and look like you know what your talking about."
"Next time when you butt in, at least try and look like you know what your talking about."

Not forgiving that error.Nope. (since English is your first language, I hope you understand ;) )

judgemental - definition of judgemental by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
judging - definition of judging by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
judgment - definition of judgment by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Now, after reading those links...are you still that sure that you didn't make a judgment of some kind ?
For example "stating a fact" would be : "AdrianV qouted the Bible". But you said something along the lines of "Adrian is careless with scripture" and that is way beyond merely stating facts.

Astro, its but, not BUTT.. Unless you were thinking i was talking about your backside ....

Google it junior ;)

My presence is done on this thread.

Have a good day.
 

Adrianv125

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I just like stating the obvious. I don't go spewing scripture at someone saying that they never knew Jesus or were never saved when I don't know that person at all. But you're right its like a mirror looking into another mirror, seeing itself reflected in itself to infinity. :D

John 10:27-30

27 My sheep(Children) hear My voice(His word/spirit conviction), and I know them(Are written in the lambs book of life and will be with Him for eternity, in contrast to those He didn't know in the Passage Matthew 7:21-23), and they follow Me(In other words keep His commands and keep His word and also bear fruit, John 15:5). 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand(Those who ""leave Hïm"" were never truly His 1 john 2:19). 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

Mathew 7:21

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven(Romans 8:29). 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

John 15:5

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

1 John 2:19

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

Romans 8:29

29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
 
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So his nose only grows when he lies....but that would mean he wasn't lying....somebody please help me.
 

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I have decided i'm going to enjoy my life without lots of rules and regulations in my life. All my life i've felt let down by God but yet i've remained loyal - until now. No more christianity, no more bible, no more going to church. I've had enough now.
I'm going to live my life my way - based on what i think is right.
That includes sex, alcohol, tattoo's etc etc.

I'm done.
I realize it says you're banned now, but perhaps you are still reading this thread, just without being signed into the site.

I think many people expect that if we believe in God and try to live for him, etc. etc. that our lives are supposed to be all great and wonderful and He is supposed to make us happy and give us everything we want. That is just not the case. If someone is telling you that, they're lying. There is nothing to back that up with. Regardless of whether or not we truly love God life is still going to be difficult here on Earth.

With God things truly are better though. At least then we have hope. Even if life sucks for however many years we live it (in our eyes), we have that hope of being with Him forever in a perfect place where there truly is no pain, no sadness, nothing bad. If you don't have God, what are you left with? Where does your hope come from?
We can search high and low and try to fill ourselves up with all kinds of sins and various things, but in the end they only hurt us. They lead nowhere good. Only God can truly satisfy a person. God and God alone.

Remember happiness is something that will ALWAYS come and go in life. We're going to have hard times, let downs, etc. etc. It's part of the human experience. However true joy comes from God and God alone. Knowing that with him we are promised a better future, a brighter future and an enternity of bliss basically. What do you have to look forward to without God?

Lets remember that God made us. Every breath we take is from Him. We can get into this mindset that God is supposed to serve us and give us what we want to make us happy. That is also just not how it is. WE are supposed to serve GOD. We are the creation, He is the creator. It's not his job to serve us, it's our job to serve Him....without Him we are nothing.

I think people who paint this portrait of Christianity being all happy and lovely all the time are doing a great disservice to others. Here on Earth, we will suffer. However, keep in mind that we will NEVER suffer what Jesus did for us. He was beaten, mocked, spat on, and ultimately hung on a cross to die. The physical pain must've been horrible, but I also know He felt the weight of the sins of the whole world on his shoulders that day. That must've felt even worse. He went through that for us. Is it asking too much for us to suffer some for his sake?? There is no greater love than that.

I don't want to make it seem like I'm saying there is no happiness and fun in a life with Christ either. Happiness can be a choice sometimes. It's how we choose to look at situations, etc. There are certainly going to be good times on Earth that we can enjoy....but there are going to be plenty of bad ones too. That's just the reality of it.

We are free to question God, shake our fists at Him, etc. etc. However, lets remember His reply to us could be the same as His reply to Job that starts in Job 38.
That scripture has put me in my place a time or three. It floors me. God is just getting warmed up in chapter 38 with his reply. Keep on reading to the next chapter.


I want to end this with just one more thought:
God doesn't give us everything we WANT, but He certainly does give his children what we NEED.
 
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ROFL @ judging paradox... i love that :D
 
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We've entered a never ending judgmental paradox O_O calling out a someone for judging is making a judgment yourself... lol
Lol true, but I think judging a situation, phrase or whatever is different from judging a person who said it.
 
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Lol true, but I think judging a situation, phrase or whatever is different from judging a person who said it.
Yeah I know lol. Everyone was screaming "JUDGMENTAL!" at everyone else I had to throw something in there lol
 

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We join a christian group to say, "Guess what? We're not christians'." If that doesn't scream help, I don't know what does.....Good luck with that!
 

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I have decided i'm going to enjoy my life without lots of rules and regulations in my life. All my life i've felt let down by God but yet i've remained loyal - until now. No more christianity, no more bible, no more going to church. I've had enough now.
I'm going to live my life my way - based on what i think is right.
That includes sex, alcohol, tattoo's etc etc.

I'm done.
ChristianChick, I understand your banned but if you still come on here to see what people are posting PLEASE look out for my next post... I don't have time to type everything I want to say right now but I can almost guarantee I have some clear answers that will make sense of all that you clearly don't understand, the guilt, the judgemental behaviour, the crusades, check up tomorrow or next day OK? I CARE and I'LL HELP YOU OK and if you made another account PM me.

Look for my post or PM me, much love and care
 
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he needed to get it out of his chest thats all...dude, real talk, i ve been trying to make a comeback (to God) and let me tell you once you start tasting the world, you get deep into it and it will become a tremendous weight if want to comeback to christ...listen to me man, even i who keeps doing stuff that i know it ain;t good for me, knows that once you die everything you gain or did on this earth will become worthless and you might regret it in the end...dont be stupid and a fool. i know it is extremely hard when temptation is on every corner you pass(drugs, sex...etc) its hard to go against the flow, against what these kids find valuable. Being a christian is hard, probably the hardest thing anyone has ever done is to follow christ. God makes thing possible, not easy. if it was easy then there would be no value to living in Christ
 

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ChristianChick please read the following ok, I know it's long, sorry

POST #1
“I have decided i'm going to enjoy my life without lots of rules and regulations in my life. All my life i've felt let down by God but yet i've remained loyal - until now. No more christianity, no more bible, no more going to church. I've had enough now.
I'm going to live my life my way - based on what i think is right.
That includes sex, alcohol, tattoo's etc etc.
I'm done.”
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Rules and Regulations, that’s what your first sentence mentioned. Look around you, there have always been rules and regulations ALL your life, driving to anywhere you go, you have to follow the rules and regulations of the road. You follow them, you have to and I imagine you understand that it’s much safer that way. Now, consider the G-d’s rules and regulations, are they really something that is so bad and repulsive to make you quit, don’t steal, don’t lie, honor your father and mother, don’t make idols, don’t murder, love your enemies, pray for those that hate you, the righteous man considers the life of his animals but the wicked are cruel…But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Your saying no to the only good thing, don’t.

Your next sentence, you feel let down? Why? I can only understand that it's because G-d didn’t give you what YOU wanted?

Prayer, firstly there’s a proper way to pray

14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.

Your heart has to be right, it’s obvious that only good things can come from G-d’s will so you asking for something of G-d should be of his will. His obviously not going to answer your prayer if it’s something out of his will, his standards come first and as you read above in the first paragraph, they are good and precious standards. I think it’s ONLY reasonable for G-d to put this condition because if he didn’t then people can ask for sinful things. It only makes sense.

Another thing you should understand is that spiritual battles happen, according to… Daniel 10:12-13 … it’s the story of Daniel praying 21 days, if you don’t know about it read Daniel chapter 10, anyways long story short, an angel had to fight a demonic force called “prince of the kingdom of Persia” before coming to give Daniel a message, even Michael the angel of war had to help him fight… here’s the verses…

12 Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words. 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia

Next miracles will happen

Daniel 6

The Plot Against Daniel

1 It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom one hundred and twenty satraps, to be over the whole kingdom; 2 and over these, three governors, of whom Daniel was one, that the satraps might give account to them, so that the king would suffer no loss. 3 Then this Daniel distinguished himself above the governors and satraps, because an excellent spirit was in him; and the king gave thought to setting him over the whole realm. 4 So the governors and satraps sought to find some charge against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find no charge or fault, because he was faithful; nor was there any error or fault found in him. 5 Then these men said, “We shall not find any charge against this Daniel unless we find it against him concerning the law of his God.”6 So these governors and satraps thronged before the king, and said thus to him: “King Darius, live forever! 7 All the governors of the kingdom, the administrators and satraps, the counselors and advisors, have consulted together to establish a royal statute and to make a firm decree, that whoever petitions any god or man for thirty days, except you, O king, shall be cast into the den of lions. 8 Now, O king, establish the decree and sign the writing, so that it cannot be changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which does not alter.” 9 Therefore King Darius signed the written decree.

Daniel in the Lions’ Den

10 Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went home. And in his upper room, with his windows open toward Jerusalem, he knelt down on his knees three times that day, and prayed and gave thanks before his God, as was his custom since early days. 11 Then these men assembled and found Daniel praying and making supplication before his God. 12 And they went before the king, and spoke concerning the king’s decree: “Have you not signed a decree that every man who petitions any god or man within thirty days, except you, O king, shall be cast into the den of lions?” The king answered and said, “The thing is true, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which does not alter.” 13 So they answered and said before the king, “That Daniel, who is one of the captives[a] from Judah, does not show due regard for you, O king, or for the decree that you have signed, but makes his petition three times a day.” 14 And the king, when he heard these words, was greatly displeased with himself, and set his heart on Daniel to deliver him; and he labored till the going down of the sun to deliver him. 15 Then these men approached the king, and said to the king, “Know, O king, that it is the law of the Medes and Persians that no decree or statute which the king establishes may be changed.” 16 So the king gave the command, and they brought Daniel and cast him into the den of lions. But the king spoke, saying to Daniel, “Your God, whom you serve continually, He will deliver you.” 17 Then a stone was brought and laid on the mouth of the den, and the king sealed it with his own signet ring and with the signets of his lords, that the purpose concerning Daniel might not be changed.

Daniel Saved from the Lions

18 Now the king went to his palace and spent the night fasting; and no musicians were brought before him. Also his sleep went from him. 19 Then the king arose very early in the morning and went in haste to the den of lions. 20 And when he came to the den, he cried out with a lamenting voice to Daniel. The king spoke, saying to Daniel, “Daniel, servant of the living God, has your God, whom you serve continually, been able to deliver you from the lions?”
21 Then Daniel said to the king, “O king, live forever! 22 My God sent His angel and shut the lions’ mouths, so that they have not hurt me, because I was found innocent before Him; and also, O king, I have done no wrong before you.”
23 Now the king was exceedingly glad for him, and commanded that they should take Daniel up out of the den. So Daniel was taken up out of the den, and no injury whatever was found on him, because he believed in his God.

Darius Honors God

24 And the king gave the command, and they brought those men who had accused Daniel, and they cast them into the den of lions—them, their children, and their wives; and the lions overpowered them, and broke all their bones in pieces before they ever came to the bottom of the den. 25 Then King Darius wrote: To all peoples, nations, and languages that dwell in all the earth:Peace be multiplied to you. 26 I make a decree that in every dominion of my kingdom men must tremble and fear before the God of Daniel. For He is the living God, And steadfast forever; His kingdom is the one which shall not be destroyed, And His dominion shall endure to the end. 27 He delivers and rescues, And He works signs and wonders In heaven and on earth, Who has delivered Daniel from the power of the lions. 28 So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.
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“I'm not making this choice for attention and i'm doing what i think is right. All i've seen from christianity is bible verses and arguments. Not even christians understand the bible fully. ALL RELIGION leads to war or disagreements and i'm sick of being force fed crap from people who believe in stuff that i feel is outdated in this time (2011). I'm annoyed that people automatically assume i'm going to go on a bender and get wasted because i'm not. I referred to the alcohol thing because i never use to drink but now i might on social occasions.
Christianity to me is giving false hope to people that need something more in their lives and i fully understand faith can give you purpose. To me going to church and reading the bible is a form of brain washing. Being brought up from a young age to believe in God is the same as brain washing in my opinion. So much killing has been done in the name of religion (including christianity) and to me that is wrong.
I want to bring my daughter up in an environment were she can make up her own mind - in her own time about faith and religion. I have morals and don't need to be a christian to have strong ones. My daughter knows right from wrong (as do i) and i'm sure we will do fine without all religion in our lives.

I just wanted to let you all know what my opinions were because i believe them to be right - if you don't agree that is fine x”
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All you’ve seen are verses and arguments? You’ve been looking at the wrong things, you’ve been looking at it from a superficial viewpoint. You look at people, you look at their mistakes and then you turn around and you blame G-d? Why not blame the people for their mistakes?

Nobody fully understands the Bible? That’s no excuse? Nobody fully understands ANYTHING, that’s why people are constantly researching and learning new things of the many subjects in the sciences and arts… and how much MORE the word of G-d. How much more the word of an all knowing, the most high and most wise of all…. How much difficult is it to fully understand his word. It’s written that G-d’s ways are mysterious.

Religions lead to war… firstly this isn’t a religion, it’s the truth and secondly let me give you an analogy of crusades. Consider the United States of America… the law states you should steal or murder. In the past the United States stole and murdered Native Americans, would you consider the people who stole and murdered corrupt? Or the laws that say don’t steal or murder corrupt? It’s the people, G-d’s word says don’t murder and don’t steal, yet in crusades that are exactly what happened. Who are corrupt? The people… it wasn’t because of G-d’s word that crusades happened it was because of PEOPLE who refused to accept and follow the word of G-d, people who wanted to do things THEIR way, the same people you seem to want to become. You are judging people, not G-d’s word. YET you want to blame G-d’s word for something G-d’s word obviously is against… it is like blaming the most noble and innocent man for the most cruel and evil actions of an evil man.

Nobody forces you, in order to accept G-d you should do it by your own free will.

It doesn’t matter if you’re going to go all out crazy in sin or if your only lightly going to sin. Think about this… can I lie a little? Can I murder a little? Can I rape a little? It doesn’t matter how little you’ll sin, it’s wrong.

It isn’t false hope, it’s helped me greatly in my life, today I managed to avoid a certain sin that was difficult to avoid for me. I avoided grief and guilt because of that. Life is so much better when your doing what’s right and good. Things only go well.
Brian washing, really? I guess going to school and reading text is also brain washing as well? How about going to the movies? How about reading or just listening to someone talk? You don’t know what brain washing is, going to church is clearly something you can decide to do, and the this faith is something you clearly are not forced to believe. Brain washing involves something like you tied to a chair, with no choice, torture, subliminal messages… you get the picture.

Your daughter has freedom of will since the day she was born, you can’t give freedom, G-d already gave her that. She is already in an environment that she can make choices of her own. Your “morals”, or anyone else’s are not morals. Only G-d can give us morals. It’s not about having “strong” morals… morals are not weak or strong… they are just moral or immoral. It’s not a gray scale. The truth is 100%, 99% and lower becomes a lie, like wise with other morals, it’s 100% or it’s immoral… so you see can’t have “strong” morals, only morals or immorals.

You need to wake up and come back to G-d, your throwing empty-excuses, and blaming G-d’s word, when clearly G-d’s word is against it, for the immoral things people do and have done(crusades) and your thinking that you can do better than G-d in the morality. PM me if you made a new account, talk to me, I’ll help you. G-d Bless.
 
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I wonder if pretending your rent doesn't exist will make it go away?
 
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Christian Chick, Christianity is not about rules and regulations. That is legalism. If you are following certain rules to prove you are holier than someone else, you're just showing how unholy you are. Also, it's not having everything perfect, simply because God wants you to have the very best. If people are teaching you this, then they are teaching you lies. True Christianity is about realizing that we are sinners, and do not have the ability to make it on our own, apart from God. It about wanting to live a life that pleases God, and knowing that no matter what, He WILL see you threw your problems. It's knowing that there are going to be times when you will be tested and disciplined, and knowing that it is for your good, even if you do not like it. It's also about study God's Word for yourself, and learning to understand what He says about things. When we listen only to what other people say about God, instead of what He says, then we can be easily given false information, and come to the conclusion that God has abandon us. However, I can honestly say, that God never abandons His children, not matter how bad it seems.

When I was 12, God was there for my family, when we lost my dad to lung cancer. At 19, He was still there, when my mom began, and eventually won, her battle with breast cancer. God was also there for me when I battled severe depression as a teenager. There were times I nearly killed myself, only to be stopped by the hand of God. He sent one person to me, to give me random hugs every now and then, and to let me know that I mattered, when I felt like no one cared.

God was there for me, when at 25, I was hit from behind, at about 50-60 mph on a highway, nearly pushed under a semi, and instead ended up rolling in a nearby field several times. And I'm got to tell you this, the whole story, in and of itself is amazing.

When I started to walk away from God, I actually came to the point where I wasn't even sure if I believed in Him, much less in Jesus Christ. But, I asked God to reveal the truth to me, and He did. There have been things over the years that I have not understood why the Bible teaches us to do observe certain things, only to have science come and say that this why you shouldn't do things.

And I know, my story may not make a difference to you, but I want you to know, that God puts things and situations in your life, to help you become the beautiful woman He's designed you to be and to help others who may go through things that are similar to what you have gone through. We can't see the big picture, because we are not God.
 
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I find it funny that despite the fact that multiple times people have pointed out the OP is banned, people still respond. Even funnier is the guy calling her 'man'. haha. Lovely.
 
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I find it funny that despite the fact that multiple times people have pointed out the OP is banned, people still respond. Even funnier is the guy calling her 'man'. haha. Lovely.
Just because she was banned, doesn't mean she isn't still reading this.
 
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I find it funny that despite the fact that multiple times people have pointed out the OP is banned, people still respond. Even funnier is the guy calling her 'man'. haha. Lovely.
I have to admit, I responded without knowing she was banned, mainly cause I didn't look at her profile heading, and didn't read all the messages at first. But like Selenah said, she may still read it, and then there are others who may still be helped.
 
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Adrian, I want to tell you that though your intentions are good, the way you phrase what you say is detrimental to the message you're giving. It was written "be sly as serpents, and gentle as doves". The knowledge you have of God's word is great. I wish I knew as much as you. But aren't we supposed to temper all things with love? There is a way to say what you want to say, without it coming out as sharp as a razor, and perhaps that is something you could try to take note of as you type. People often say "I'm being honest. I don't sugar-coat anything." I'm not saying to "sugar-coat" it, what I'm saying is that "a gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." I pray I didn't come off as arrogant, because that wasn't my intention. I have struggled with the same problem myself and so I've taken to doing my best to preach by my behavior and I still fail, as do we all. God bless you all.